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    Un ease lies the head who wears the crown. So Far Govt and Army has played cards very wisely. I think to be emotional and judgemental is stupid thing to do.

    The closure of Supply route is a wise decision . and I agree with Developereo because its best thing to do
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Longley View Post
    In era of GPS and GPRS its impossible that NATO did not know the position of Our Post. I think govt should give orders to shoot down hostile heli's if they cross limits. Shoot down 1 or two heli's they will behave. but with this Passive approch only result of hue and cry will be an apology over loss of Life by NATO and case close
    Bill you need to brush up on your technical knowledge as GPS has nothing to do with GPRS....Ans GpRS is never used for positioning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nuclearpak View Post
    Get your facts right people, they do have them, and also Ack Ack, but they would not have been expecting helis to come in. They are there to fight the TTP, not NATO.
    So this means they get backstabbed from US/NATO again and again cuz they consider them their friends ..okay let them bear the casualities and be happi with it....
    They might learn lesson this time...

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    Quote Originally Posted by nuclearpak View Post
    Definitely. 30+ martyred is too much, by relentless Helicopter pounding. There is absolutely no excuse about this, about why the NATO pilots made the mistake of crossing the border and then failing to distinguish between uniformed soldiers and rag tag talibs, with all the GPS aids, and NVG devices.

    Supply routes should be blocked, and then a strong case be brought in the UN.
    The UN will do nothing. I can definitely see this event as a game changer though, the proxy & intelligence games will be in full force now, & this time, it's going to be a very bleak scenario for the troops in Afghanistan.

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    Pakistan and Nato will patch up again as Nato needs Pakistan more in winter to reduce its logistic cost (winter and snow will double the cost of bring logistic from north of Afghanistan ) but Pakistan should seal its ports for Afghanistan trade (transit) as the imports of Afgan goods end up selling inside Pakistan as duty free (smuggled cloth , tea , electric goods etc ).

    The ruling class in Kabul hate Pakistan so why should Pakistan provide the transit for trillions of rupees to help smuggling industry in Pakistan , its a set back to tax paying importers of Pakistan? Pakistani roads are burdened by Afghan transit (billions of loss in the long run). Every one know so many containers were smuggled in by Karachi port by corrupt minister and custom officers so stop the Afghan transit from the Karachi port.

    Last time the GOP give up in ten days let see the shameless GOP will hold the closure this time. Time will tell.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bilalhaider View Post
    49% of NATO's supplies come from Pakistan. Time to close the supply routes permanently.
    yes...shut it permanently...enough is enough.

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    This is the make or break moment for Imran Khan and PTI. Organize a permanent 24/7 civilian blockade of the supply routes.

    The time for 'investigations', 'explanations' and 'apologies' is past.

    The blockade stays in place until the last NATO soldier has left Afghanistan in humiliating retreat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bilalhaider View Post
    The UN will do nothing. I can definitely see this event as a game changer though, the proxy & intelligence games will be in full force now, & this time, it's going to be a very bleak scenario for the troops in Afghanistan.
    Some friends ( within the higher end of the army) said that COAS is really outraged by the acts of NATO and other countries. And this case will be pursued, definitely. Or else, shame on us. I can see a strong message being sent out to those NATO sc**.

    BTW, which NATO country did this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Developereo View Post
    This is the make or break moment for Imran Khan and PTI. Organize a permanent 24/7 civilian blockade of the supply routes.

    The time for 'investigations', 'explanations' and 'apologies' is past.

    The blockade stays in place until the last NATO soldier has left Afghanistan in humiliating retreat.
    He has a blockade on 25 Dec if I am not wrong. But that is too late. Get a dharna within 2 days at Peshawar. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH.

    The last time we blocked the NATO routes, they were on their knees.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nuclearpak View Post
    Definitely. 30+ martyred is too much, by relentless Helicopter pounding. There is absolutely no excuse about this, about why the NATO pilots made the mistake of crossing the border and then failing to distinguish between uniformed soldiers and rag tag talibs, with all the GPS aids, and NVG devices.

    Supply routes should be blocked, and then a strong case be brought in the UN.
    No, Sir!

    As I wrote, the time for explanations and inquiries has passed.

    The blockade stays in place until the last NATO soldier leaves Afghanistan. Not one single truck will pass through Pakistan.

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    This incident will not result in a direct confrontation between the US & Pakistan, but the Pakistan government will be under pressure by the people & the Army to react strongly. Kayani will be under pressure to react strongly as well, so that the Army ranks do not become dissatisfied with him & don't want to overthrow him. This is a make-or-break time for the Army & government.

    Likely scenario: the supplies from Pakistan will be closed indefinitely, the "co-operation" between Pakistan & the US in Afghanistan will cease, more intelligence games will be played in Afghanistan, attacks in Afghanistan will increase. On the outlook, Pakistan & the US will still be "allies".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Developereo View Post
    This is the make or break moment for Imran Khan and PTI. Organize a permanent 24/7 civilian blockade of the supply routes.

    The time for 'investigations', 'explanations' and 'apologies' is past.

    The blockade stays in place until the last NATO soldier has left Afghanistan in humiliating retreat.
    Sir! politicians are poiliticians they can be sold out very easily. We shold never depend on the politicians. never let them in control of our destiny.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Developereo View Post
    No, Sir!

    As I wrote, the time for explanations and inquiries is past.

    The blockade stays in place until the last NATO soldier leaves Afghanistan. Not one single truck will pass through Pakistan.
    The people who drive the trucks, they should have some feelings that for whom they are doing. But alas, they are their just for the money.

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    I dont know if the Americans should be blamed for that.
    they are already killing the civilians on regular bases in Afghanistan despite how many times the Afghan president protests and threatens them that he will stop cooperating. I mean killing anyone for the heck of it is just a habit. if they dont find any enemy they will kill civilians. if they cant find civilians they will kill allies, if they cant find allies they will kill their own troops.


    I think its part 2 of their "kill team" approach
    what will be intersting is to see if the action was directed from their top command or the helicopter pilots decided to have some fun.

    indeed they have raised the stakes now. if American command and the president isnt involved in this operation then they will be slapping their heads now for the increased headache.

    well rest in peace for the soldiers is all I can say.

    Taliban will have a good day to laugh at both of its enemies while the web trolls wont loose an opertunity to have their share of fame too.


    interesting bit here



    The checkpoint that was attacked had been recently set up in the Mohmand tribal area by the Pakistan army to stop Taliban fighters holed up in Afghanistan from crossing the border and staging attacks, said two government administrators in Mohmand, Maqsood Hasan and Hamid Khan.

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    I wish more americans n NATO die..ameen!

    ...K usa!
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    Keep in mind the US has pissed off everyone, including the Russians and the Chinese.

    If we can pull this off and kick NATO out, it will take Pak-Iran and Pak-China relationships to new heights.
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