Originally Posted by TexasJohn
Well thanx it fitted in your brain easily
As i claimed that it would actually be difficult for a yank to understand our mechanics has been equally proven in your post that i am quoting.
Here we go....
However, what is happening in Gwadar is not benefitting the locals as well as it could. Especially when you import a crew from another state rather than hire a local Baluchi.
Another classic example of naivety on your in understanding our mechanics or should i say any other mechanics that works outside the States!
i wonder why didnt you say that why do we ask the Chinese to build our nuclear power plants and why do we ask assistance from the americans in many fields, why do many foreign engineers work in Pakistan and many other countries, why do we find american experts down deep in africa and else where?!
If we Pakistanis were so advanced we could have already built Gwadar and reached the moon before you, but alas we lame!
That, and the fact that they are being deprived of their just share of natural gas revenue,
Again you missed our 'mechanics', yank sir.
We have in place a federal sstem, and the provinces are given revenue so that they can make use it for thier uplift, nobody stoped Mr Bugti and other CM/governors not to use that money and to put it in thei pockets. The government failed to mend them so the Army had to do it, Bugti gone things are different now.
Yes they have not been given their share of gas, but why ask the clarifications from the Army?? It was NOT the Army who stopped that or made them suffer, ask our politicians instead.
And as we admit that they have been deprived so we also admit that we have to make up the short comings, but the government failing that atleast the Army has taken an one sided approach! And i would request to appreciate it rather than bullying it!
The Army have never got any dividends out of these welfare acts but as it feels the 'shame' and responsibility and knows that the government would always need a catalyst to make them work, the Army has to face the blunt!
Nobody has asked the Army to do this nor are we bound to, but it is something known as patriotism!
And if yopu feel that the Balochs were deprived of their rights please ask the concern authorities about it, dont make it an excuse to counter the guud acts/show that the Army has been putting up.
How on earth can you compare the welfare projects of Army with the deprivation of Baloch people(which actually was the fault of previous governmental policies)?
And yes as for kicking the 'bad' Balochs, that had happened and would be happening until they are back on track. No Baloch, Sindhi, Pathan, Punjabi, Mohajir, Kashmiri, etc etc is above a PakistanI.
I don't think the Army should lower their standards for the Baluchis. Their regiments fought bravely and proved themselves in World War II and since.
Again you messed up with our mechanics here!
Who is saying that the Balochs are 'not' brave, they have been and are one of the most fearsome fighters and we desperately need them on our side!
Standards are being lowered so that more and more Balochs should join in, though it doesnt mean that all of them would make up in joining the Army but atleast it would shake and stir them well.
And as for the standards, if you would read the relaxations carefully you'll come to know that known of them can and would lower the Army's fighting capability!
A sub-standard recruitment only demoralizes the force as a whole - " let's not send THOSE guys to battle, they are mostly lesser warriors" would be the thinking. If the boot camps will weed out the unfit, then why bother with trying to train those you know will fail? It is a waste of money and time is it not?
What on earth are you talking about, sir!
Do you think that does the Army recruit people on "First Come, First Serve
Lowering the satandars would not mean that any tom, dicjk and harry would just nake it through! The selection process is there to separate the wheat from the chaff and get the donkeys out from horses! Drop outs are always there during training and afterwards but would they all be 'lower standardly' selected Balochs!!!??
All these guys want to do is to be treated as equals, not lesser citizens.
And thats what we are trying to do!
Again as you sit in States, try come visit the remote areas of Baluchistan, you will find them 'different' from the remaining Pakistan.(i am deliberately not comparing it with 'something')
I don't think the Army should run commercial business, after all I did not go to War College to learn to run a cornflake plant. Ours don't run businesses, it would be unheard off - we the people simply won't allow that. Officers and servicemen have plenty to do as it is.
You are right, but as you again missed our mechanics so i dont blame of you of your concern, try to read my thread Nation building activities of the Pakistani Army
, it will give you much insight about it, and yes BTW, our 'all' Army doesnt run the commercial business, it hires people or expert i must say for it. We are paid to fight not to earn! Moreover, in our Army, Officers are strictly forbidden to run private business, it is a court martial offense (now please dont say that the Army stops its men from doing what it itself does, as that would be just lame!)
Try read my other thread, i hope it would clear must dust, and on a lighter note, what exactly is that which bothers you if the Army is boosting the country's economy and providing millions job and at the same time maintaining its high standard of an efficient killing machine?
Army in Pakistan is different, we call it a national army ( i know i have stepped on many tails when i said this) You'll not get it, unless you become "George ka Pakistan"
And one more thing, never ever compare your forces with ours, i just dont like it, i take it as insulting. There's a difference of many zeros between trillions and millions!!!