Why Partition happened - The Hindu discrimination - *WORSE THAN UNTOUCHABLE

[neutral_person]

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http://www.imc-usa.org/reports/2006/pmhlc.muslims.pdf

I could not find any figures from the sources you mentioned. When googling, I came up with these :-

BBC NEWS | South Asia | Why do Indian Muslims lag behind?

India’s Muslim Population - Council on Foreign Relations

More concrete sources:

As of 2004, Pakistan had 54% literacy
Source: Education in Pakistan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

As of 2002 when the Sachar Report was done, Muslims have 59% literacy
Source: Educational Deprivation of Muslims: Revisiting Sachar Report | TwoCircles.net

[RuheTag]

More concrete sources:

As of 2004, Pakistan had 54% literacy
Source: Education in Pakistan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

As of 2002 when the Sachar Report was done, Muslims have 59% literacy
Source: Educational Deprivation of Muslims: Revisiting Sachar Report | TwoCircles.net

Believing in this report compiled by Indian Goverments' appointed Comittee. it also says

While the overall literacy rate in India is above 65%, the literacy rate of Muslims is around 59%. However, on extending the consideration beyond mere literacy rate, Muslims fall far behind others.

The status of Indian Muslims are below the conditions of Scheduled Castes and Scheduled Tribes.


The overall percentage of Muslims in bureaucracy in India is just 2.5 % whereas Muslims constitute above 14% of Indian population.[9]

Would be great to have a look on poverty rate of Muslims as percentage in bureaucracy is shown here.

[OrionHunter]

Vile propaganda! Here's your answer where Musharraf gets it back from an Indian Muslim - Maulana Maddani.



Check this out..There are hundreds of other examples.



And Hindu-Muslims work together in GUJARAT....





And in Uttar Pradesh...



Want more?

[yoku]

"On the whole, Pakistan has done much better then India in the last 60 years.

We have lower poverty, larger middle class and a market economy.
We also have options in Education, Employment and housing. "


Care to re read the part in quotation?

are you honestly going to disagree with the fact that Pakistan per capita has a larger middle class and lower poverty rates?

I know you guys like to think of yourselves as a supa dupa pawa but c'mon man, take a trip back to planet Earth, even if it's just a vacation.

That's a load of Bull. Are there any ordinary People who went on to make it big in the fields of sciences/Technology/politics/Arts etc?

You people compare the so called elite Pakistanis with Average Muslim in India. Do it with ordinary Pakistanis. you will notice the difference. Say, a family that has no Land owning/Education prior to formation of Pakistan with similar ones in India. Even though, the much of the Muslim elite left for Pakistan, common Muslim in India neither felt the lack of leadership nor the lack of opportunities. They are represented disproportionately more in the unorganised sector and Trading and retailing of certain goods and make more money than their non Muslim counter parts with similar education levels/asset owning. And all the Muslim sects feel secure compared to that of Pakistan. Talk to the Shias on either side and see who feels secure about their future prospects of well being. Talk to those "liberal/Progressive" Muslims who thank Allah that their ancestors chose to stay in India. Only a person who closed his eyes to not see the truth would make a comment that India Muslims are worse off than Pakistanis or Bangladeshi.

[RuheTag]

Vile propaganda! Here's your answer where Musharraf gets it back from an Indian Muslim.



Check this out..There are hundreds of other examples.



And Hindu-Muslims work together in GUJARAT....





And in Uttar Pradesh...



Want more?

BS.. There is a discussion going on here... not a competition of posting video links. If thats the case. Do you want an Anti-India Videos spree by Hafiz Saeed, or people like that?

[neutral_person]

Believing in this report compiled by Indian Goverments' appointed Comittee. it also says

Would be great to have a look on poverty rate of Muslims as percentage in bureaucracy is shown here.

My initial claim of Indian Muslims having higher literacy than Pakistani Muslims still stands, and the Rusty troll talking about how Muslims dont get education in India is proven false.

That is a separate claim you are making now, which I never claimed, one comparing income/poverty that is.

However, if you can provide me with accurate links on income levels of Indian Muslims vs Pakistani Muslims(like I did), you can message me (or post on this thread, but I am leaving for today so highly doubt I will see it as I dont think I will come back to this thread tomorrow).

[RuheTag]

My initial claim of Indian Muslims having higher literacy than Pakistani Muslims still stands, and the Rusty troll talking about how Muslims dont get education in India is proven false.

That is a separate claim you are making now, which I never claimed, one comparing income/poverty that is.

However, if you can provide me with accurate links on income levels of Indian Muslims vs Pakistani Muslims(like I did), you can message me (or post on this thread, but I am leaving for today so highly doubt I will see it as I dont think I will come back to this thread tomorrow).

OK. the litracy figure in that report shows higher than Pakistans.

But I thought the discussion was related to the title of the thread : Why Partition happened - The Hindu discrimination - *WORSE THAN UNTOUCHABLE

And this relates all of the things I talked. I am not making any claim. I merely copied a qoute from the report you were refering to.. Which proves that Indian Muslim lag behind other people in India, in litracy, jobs, etc.

I dont have figures on income levels. I am still convinced of a general perception about Indian Muslims in India.. to whom no statistics have proved wrong so far.

[Rusty]

OK. the litracy figure in that report shows higher than Pakistans.

But I thought the discussion was related to the title of the thread : Why Partition happened - The Hindu discrimination - *WORSE THAN UNTOUCHABLE

And this relates all of the things I talked. I am not making any claim. I merely copied a qoute from the report you were refering to.. Which proves that Indian Muslim lag behind other people in India, in litracy, jobs, etc.

I dont have figures on income levels. I am still convinced of a general perception about Indian Muslims in India.. to whom no statistics have proved wrong so far.

lol, his own report proves our point.
that's gotta be embarrassing.

[OrionHunter]

BS.. There is a discussion going on here... not a competition of posting video links. If thats the case. Do you want an Anti-India Videos spree by Hafiz Saeed, or people like that?

Pictures speak louder than words! Nuff said!

I think the Mush video I posted above, really got your goat!! Afraid to face the truth, what? And don't twaddle about Hafiz Saeed. He's a terrorist and abnormal. We are talking about normal human beings here.

[RuheTag]

Here are some 'pictures' too, I hope you will recognize them.



mujtabas-musings: Indian Muslims and Media Images

[OrionHunter]

Here are some 'pictures' too, I hope you will recognize them.

I can show you hundreds of such pictures from Balochistan too where it's not Muslims Vs Hindus but Muslims Vs Muslims. And that's worse. But I'm not here to start a flame war! Period.

[RuheTag]

I can show you hundreds of such pictures from Balochistan too where it's not Hindus Vs Muslims but Muslims Vs Muslims. But I'm not here to start a flame war! Period.

The thread is not about Baluchistan I guess. You started posting links, not I. Why are you getting upset here, is this thread mentaly challenging you?

To prove me and others wrong who disagree with you on Indian Muslims's fate in India, you can come up with some credible statistics.

[Dance]

Theres already a thread on this:

India/Islam: Muslims lag behind then other minorities in India

[RuheTag]

Somebody can merge this threat with that?

[yoku]

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Here are some 'pictures' too, I hope you will recognize them.

what a shame! They could have give those qurans to a Paper recycling unit which can put those to good use like supplying note books to underprivileged children etc., This is barbaric.

On the Gujarat Photo, actually I am blown off by the appetite for consuming media content projecting Victims of Muslims by non-muslims and absolute dismissal of anything that involves Muslim on non-muslim crimes or Muslim on Muslim crimes.

Always remember, before bringing up Deaths of Muslims in the Hands of non-Muslims, please take note of the other side. you know gujarat riots had more than 250 non Muslim victims as well, which includes the actual arson attack by the Muslim Youth that to lead the riots(which might appear small compared to 750 Muslims but 250 is not small number). I don't know what they write in Pakistani Papers but, seems they don't report non-Muslim causalities in Islamic Republics which might cause any effect on despising the non-muslims for their crimes against Muslims.

Muslims do look for a conflict rather than reconciliation.