Domestic & Social Crimes [Mob/ Vigilante justice] Thread

[Aeronaut]

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Sardar Ji -- Look here we don't have enough churces to burn down.

Not even 100 Pakistan churches

I dont know how do you come up with 100's that we Burnt !

[Aeronaut]

Looks like your brain is full nothing more can accommodate. I am not spreading any hatred here nor defending prosecution of ahemedis in pakistan.

BTW there are significant number of people (muslims) in indian army.

Even you say it is 1% it will run into 1000s in number.

I dont have any issues with Muslims in Indian Army.

But i do have an Issue with Pakistani Traitors serving in Zionist Army , why shouldn't i ?

[Rafael]

and these types of killings are not common in punjab and rest of pakistan??????, c'mon man, we daily hear these news, how are you so sure, they are murdered for their different religion, maybe taking asylum in canada is what they did by taking advantage of the situation

Hammy like i said, i knew the family personally. They were receiving threats way before that and they even contacted police which advised them to limit their movement. and it does not ends here, rest of the family is also getting threat calls from the same group hence they are seeking asylum in canada.


Here is the link that covers the full story.

PAKISTAN Punjab Muslim fundamentalists against the Ahmadis, three traders killed - Asia News

[indian_warrior]

Sardar Ji -- Look here we don't have enough churces to burn down.

Not even 100 Pakistan churches

I dont know how do you come up with 100's that we Burnt !

if not 100's then 10's ok happy

Not having 100 churches for more than 3million people((as per your post 2.7%) also looks something suppressing.

More than 100 hindu temples in usa.

List of Hindu Temples and Religious Centers in the USA - VI (States OH - WV)

[Aeronaut]

Hammy like i said, i knew the family personally. They were receiving threats way before that and they even contacted police which advised them to limit their movement. and it does not ends here, rest of the family is also getting threat calls from the same group hence they are seeking asylum in canada.


Here is the link that covers the full story.

PAKISTAN Punjab Muslim fundamentalists against the Ahmadis, three traders killed - Asia News

No one is denying that it does not happen .

But most of the cases are Dramas staged by these qadiyanis themselves to get a solid Police report with a Newspaper reference that they can claim the asylum in other Countries.

[Meesna]

meesna why dont you speak on gujrat muslim massacre, and why not other human rights, saare burai pakistan main hi nazar aate hai tum ko??, i have just gone through your previous posts.

I do! But problem with Pakistan as compared to many other countries including India is that Pakistan officially considers its citizens unequal, and persecution and apartheid is part of the constitution which makes it rather clear that a large portion of the population believes in such values. This also makes it worst than other places where citizens have some legal recourse under the law of equality of all citizens. For example in India, Muslims can go to court for descrimination as under the law all are more or less equal but in Pakistan Ahmadis and others can't even go to court as law is biased.

Besides, this thread is about Pakistan, not India.

[Meesna]

More Qadiyanis serve in the Israeli Armed Forces than Pakistan according to a book, 'Israel: A Profile', by a Jewish Professor I.T Naomi. He stated: '… and the Ahmadi sect of some 600 people from Pakistan also serve in the (Israeli) army...' To many analysts Qadiyanis are a political issue and have always been a security problem? In India Qadiyanis have collected and donated thousands to the Indian Army fund after Kargil.

Tariq Aziz reportedly Qadiyani relative of Rehman Malik has been hired for the 'track two diplomacy with India'. His rank and salary would be equivalent to ....... No wonder MQM and PPP are reportedly planning to move a motion in the parliament to undo the declaration of Qadiyanis as non Muslims by ZA Bhutto led Parliament on 7th September 1974.

Altaf Hussain prayed for the forgiveness of Mirza Tahir Ahmad Qadiyani leader, who died in London few of years ago?
It was common knowledge that Jalaluddin Qamar, the Ahmedyah Missionary of Rabwah had been serving in Israel since 1956 when Ch. Muhammad Sharif was called back to Pakistan from Israel. All Qadiyani missionaries who had been formerly posted in Israel since 1928 namely J.D Shams, Allah Dita Jalundhari, Rashid Ahmed Chaughtai, Noor Ahmad and Ch. Sharif lived in Rabwah after serving in Israel. Their families had mysterious contact channels when they were in Israel", wrote Bashir Ahmad in 'Ahmadiyah Movement: British Jewish Connection.

As far as Jewish help and support is concerned, Mirza Mubarak Ahmad, grandson of the Qadiyani prophet has himself acknowledged in his book ‘OUR FOREIGN MISSIONS', PP. 79-80 in the following words: "The Ahmadiyya mission in Israel is situated in Haifa at Mount Karmal. We have a mosque there, a mission house, a library, a book depot and a school".



Counter it !!

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That is why they are not wanter because they are not Pakistanis.

Excellent! Now let's put some Ahmadis to free and fair trial and declare them guilty. With your "bullet proof" proof this should be a doodle. So don't wait no more.

[Aeronaut]

if not 100's then 10's ok happy

Not having 100 churches for more than 3million people((as per your post 2.7%) also looks something suppressing.

More than 100 hindu temples in usa.

List of Hindu Temples and Religious Centers in the USA - VI (States OH - WV)

Sardar ji its upto Christian to build their Churches not to Muslims and they are free to build enough to fullfill their needs.


Though i think that banning Mosques in Christian countries like Swiss etc should force us to do the same but we are not like them .

I am still waiting for your links sardar ji , Zid chad dao

[Gin ka Pakistan]

They will likely be better off seems to me Indian law does a better job of protecting its minorities.

I am so shame full on what is going on with minorities in Pakistan, which is extremism

Two wrongs doesn't make one right but Indian hand is not so clean against minorities too


India missionary death trial ends
BBC NEWS | South Asia | India missionary death trial ends

Hindus burn church, Christians in fear

Hindus burn church, Christians in fear | The Australian

Anti-Christian violence in India / On 12 October 2008, Pope Benedict XVI criticized the continuing Anti-Christian violence in India.

Anti-Christian violence in India - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Laws against Conversions
Laws against Conversions

The US State Department has claimed that the recent wave of anti-conversion laws in various Indian states passed by some states is seen as gradual and continuous institutionalization of Hindutva.[4] Christian missionaries are accused of using inducements such as schooling, money, and even motorcycles and bicycles to lure poor people to the faith, and have also launched movements to reconvert many tribal Christians back to Hinduism.

Most of the Anti-conversion laws are brief and leave a lot of ambiguity, which can be misused for inflicting persecution.[citation needed] Legal experts[who?] believe that wilful trespass by missionaries upon the sacred spaces of other faiths can be prosecuted under Section 295A of the Indian Penal Code, and as such there is no need for anti-conversion laws by individual states and they should be repealed.[citation needed] A consolidation of various Anti-conversion or "Freedom of Religion" Laws has been done by the All Indian Christian Council.[5]

In the past, several Indian states passed anti-conversion bills primarily to preventing people from converting to Christianity. Arunachal Pradesh passed a bill in 1978. In 2003, Gujarat State, after religious riots in 2002 (see 2002 Gujarat violence), passed an anti-conversion bill in 2003.

In July, 2006, Madhya Pradesh government passed legislation requiring people who desire to convert to a different religion to provide the government with one-month's notice, or face fines and penalties.[6]

In August, 2006, the Chhattisgarh State Assembly passed similar legislation requiring anyone who desires to convert to another religion to give 30 days' notice to, and seek permission from, the district magistrate.[7]

In February, 2007, Himachal Pradesh became the first Congress Party ruled state to adopt legislation banning illegal religious conversions.[8]
The US State Department has claimed that the recent wave of anti-conversion laws in various Indian states passed by some states is seen as gradual and continuous institutionalization of Hindutva.[4] Christian missionaries are accused of using inducements such as schooling, money, and even motorcycles and bicycles to lure poor people to the faith, and have also launched movements to reconvert many tribal Christians back to Hinduism.

Most of the Anti-conversion laws are brief and leave a lot of ambiguity, which can be misused for inflicting persecution.[citation needed] Legal experts[who?] believe that wilful trespass by missionaries upon the sacred spaces of other faiths can be prosecuted under Section 295A of the Indian Penal Code, and as such there is no need for anti-conversion laws by individual states and they should be repealed.[citation needed] A consolidation of various Anti-conversion or "Freedom of Religion" Laws has been done by the All Indian Christian Council.[5]

In the past, several Indian states passed anti-conversion bills primarily to preventing people from converting to Christianity. Arunachal Pradesh passed a bill in 1978. In 2003, Gujarat State, after religious riots in 2002 (see 2002 Gujarat violence), passed an anti-conversion bill in 2003.

In July, 2006, Madhya Pradesh government passed legislation requiring people who desire to convert to a different religion to provide the government with one-month's notice, or face fines and penalties.[6]

In August, 2006, the Chhattisgarh State Assembly passed similar legislation requiring anyone who desires to convert to another religion to give 30 days' notice to, and seek permission from, the district magistrate.[7]

In February, 2007, Himachal Pradesh became the first Congress Party ruled state to adopt legislation banning illegal religious conversions.[8]

[Aeronaut]

Excellent! Now let's put some Ahmadis to free and fair trial and declare them guilty. With your "bullet proof" proof this should be a doodle. So don't wait no more.

How can we put those Traitors on the trail while they are serving in Zionist army and waiting for their common Master the dijjal.

[Meesna]

How can we put those Traitors on the trail while they are serving in Zionist army and waiting for their common Master the dijjal.

I'm afraid in that case no one is proven guilty. No trial no guilt. That's how civilised societies work.

[Aeronaut]

I'm afraid in that case no one is proven guilty. No trial no guilt. That's how civilised societies work.

Yes you better of with that and i am better of with what we have to do to protect ourselves from Traitors and Zionists.

[Hammy007]

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[indian_warrior]

Two wrongs doesn't make one right but Indian hand is not clean against minorities


India missionary death trial ends
BBC NEWS | South Asia | India missionary death trial ends

Hindus burn church, Christians in fear

Hindus burn church, Christians in fear | The Australian

Anti-Christian violence in India / On 12 October 2008, Pope Benedict XVI criticized the continuing Anti-Christian violence in India.

Anti-Christian violence in India - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Laws against Conversions
Laws against Conversions

The US State Department has claimed that the recent wave of anti-conversion laws in various Indian states passed by some states is seen as gradual and continuous institutionalization of Hindutva.[4] Christian missionaries are accused of using inducements such as schooling, money, and even motorcycles and bicycles to lure poor people to the faith, and have also launched movements to reconvert many tribal Christians back to Hinduism.

Most of the Anti-conversion laws are brief and leave a lot of ambiguity, which can be misused for inflicting persecution.[citation needed] Legal experts[who?] believe that wilful trespass by missionaries upon the sacred spaces of other faiths can be prosecuted under Section 295A of the Indian Penal Code, and as such there is no need for anti-conversion laws by individual states and they should be repealed.[citation needed] A consolidation of various Anti-conversion or "Freedom of Religion" Laws has been done by the All Indian Christian Council.[5]

In the past, several Indian states passed anti-conversion bills primarily to preventing people from converting to Christianity. Arunachal Pradesh passed a bill in 1978. In 2003, Gujarat State, after religious riots in 2002 (see 2002 Gujarat violence), passed an anti-conversion bill in 2003.

In July, 2006, Madhya Pradesh government passed legislation requiring people who desire to convert to a different religion to provide the government with one-month's notice, or face fines and penalties.[6]

In August, 2006, the Chhattisgarh State Assembly passed similar legislation requiring anyone who desires to convert to another religion to give 30 days' notice to, and seek permission from, the district magistrate.[7]

In February, 2007, Himachal Pradesh became the first Congress Party ruled state to adopt legislation banning illegal religious conversions.[8]
The US State Department has claimed that the recent wave of anti-conversion laws in various Indian states passed by some states is seen as gradual and continuous institutionalization of Hindutva.[4] Christian missionaries are accused of using inducements such as schooling, money, and even motorcycles and bicycles to lure poor people to the faith, and have also launched movements to reconvert many tribal Christians back to Hinduism.

Most of the Anti-conversion laws are brief and leave a lot of ambiguity, which can be misused for inflicting persecution.[citation needed] Legal experts[who?] believe that wilful trespass by missionaries upon the sacred spaces of other faiths can be prosecuted under Section 295A of the Indian Penal Code, and as such there is no need for anti-conversion laws by individual states and they should be repealed.[citation needed] A consolidation of various Anti-conversion or "Freedom of Religion" Laws has been done by the All Indian Christian Council.[5]

In the past, several Indian states passed anti-conversion bills primarily to preventing people from converting to Christianity. Arunachal Pradesh passed a bill in 1978. In 2003, Gujarat State, after religious riots in 2002 (see 2002 Gujarat violence), passed an anti-conversion bill in 2003.

In July, 2006, Madhya Pradesh government passed legislation requiring people who desire to convert to a different religion to provide the government with one-month's notice, or face fines and penalties.[6]

In August, 2006, the Chhattisgarh State Assembly passed similar legislation requiring anyone who desires to convert to another religion to give 30 days' notice to, and seek permission from, the district magistrate.[7]

In February, 2007, Himachal Pradesh became the first Congress Party ruled state to adopt legislation banning illegal religious conversions.[8]

This is just law against conversion by giving money(buying people) not against their religious practice.

[Meesna]

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non muslims cant go to the court???

If the law itself allows or promotes persecution as in Pakistan, then courts can't go against the law hence can't provide any recourse to the persecuted. This makes it rather strange that in 21st century there exists a country that officially and legally persecutes its own citizens and with pride.