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    Default Re: MUST WATCH: Hassan Nisar on Pakistan's Muslims in Arab countires

    Here is the same video but with English Subtitles:




    Mr Nisar makes some really good points, Pakistanis get treated like crap in Arab countries while in Western predominantly White countries Pakistanis have a lot of opportunities like become National Citizens, open businesses, free education, and people are more willing to accept us as fellow countrymen while in Arab countries they use Pakistani kids for Camel races and treat their horses and camels better than they treat our people. Yet there are Pakistanis who believe in the delusional "ummah" and are ready to sacrifice even their lives for Arab countries (Saudi and Gulf to be specific).
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    Default Re: MUST WATCH: Hassan Nisar on Pakistan's Muslims in Arab countires

    The west has some very common standards that apply to not just Pakistanis, but to everyone. What Hassan is applying to Pakistanis in Arab countries, may or may not be true, but I do agree with him based on the fact that every Pakistani talks about supporting Arab countries while they do little to nothing for us.
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    Default Re: MUST WATCH: Hassan Nisar on Pakistan's Muslims in Arab countires

    Quote Originally Posted by Hassan_Ishtiaq View Post
    Here is the same video but with English Subtitles:




    Mr Nisar makes some really good points, Pakistanis get treated like crap in Arab countries while in Western predominantly White countries Pakistanis have a lot of opportunities like become National Citizens, open businesses, free education, and people are more willing to accept us as fellow countrymen while in Arab countries they use Pakistani kids for Camel races and treat their horses and camels better than they treat our people. Yet there are Pakistanis who believe in the delusional "ummah" and are ready to sacrifice even their lives for Arab countries (Saudi and Gulf to be specific).
    It's not only Pakistanis, they also treat non gulf Arabs the same way.
    I met a guy from Jordan who worked in UAE and he HATED the gulf Arabs because of the racism he felt.
    All that oil money has gotten to their heads and they now think they are better then everyone else.
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    Default Re: MUST WATCH: Hassan Nisar on Pakistan's Muslims in Arab countires

    Quote Originally Posted by Rusty View Post
    It's not only Pakistanis, they also treat non gulf Arabs the same way.
    I met a guy from Jordan who worked in UAE and he HATED the gulf Arabs because of the racism he felt.
    All that oil money has gotten to their heads and they now think they are better then everyone else.
    Yes, Gulf Arabs to be more specific.

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    Default Re: MUST WATCH: Hassan Nisar on Pakistan's Muslims in Arab countires

    South Asian and South East Asian Muslims are treated worse in Gulf countries than Arabs from other countries are.

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    They starve the kids and don't let them sleep enough in order to prevent them from gaining weight and slowing down the camel, how sick and disgusting, BTW those children are mostly Pakistani and Bangladeshi, this is how they treat our people, even worse than those camels.

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    They starve the kids and don't let them sleep enough in order to prevent them from gaining and slowing down the camel, how sick and disgusting, BTW those children are mostly Pakistani and Bangladeshi, this is how they treat our people, even camels get better treatment than those children.
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    Default Re: MUST WATCH: Hassan Nisar on Pakistan's Muslims in Arab countires

    There is no way to disagree with him. But, I think Saudi Arabia doesn't give citizenship or permanent residency because this will make them minority in their own country.

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    Default Re: MUST WATCH: Hassan Nisar on Pakistan's Muslims in Arab countires

    Quote Originally Posted by Al-zakir View Post
    There is no way to disagree with him. But, I think Saudi Arabia doesn't give citizenship or permanent residency because this will make them minority in their own country.
    But then i have question, is this not racism??? Saudi arabbia only for Saudi arabs? now what if white people start saying europe and america only for white people and no citizenship for immigrant otherwise white people will become minrotiy in their own countries (which is happening BTW)? Those white people will be labeled "racist white supremecists" etc.

    Secondly, another point Mr Nissar makes is that Muslims (Sauth Asian/South East Asian Muslims to be more specific) act more arab then the arabs themsleves upholding the "1 ummah" concept in their minds and believe in Muslims first rather than Bangali first, or Punjabi first, or Malay First, or Afghan/Pashtun first, and even we are more welcoming towards the arabs in our countries but when our people go to their country we are treated worse than animals and i mean this literally, on the other hand predominantly White European Christians countries are more open to us South Asians where we have opporutnities to become what we wan and follow our dreams, the famous "persuit of happiness" as envisioned by America's White Christian European founding fathers applies to anyone and everyone that steps within the borders of America, and the same can be said about Europe, yet our people curse these countries.

    These arabs are muslims, our so called "brothers", yet they treat us worse than animals, while White Christians openly allow us into their countries where our people have opportunties to become anyone or whatever they want as long as they dont harm fellow citizen and no one will ask you or stop you from doing what you want.

    Shouldn't it be the other way around? But no.
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    Default Re: MUST WATCH: Hassan Nisar on Pakistan's Muslims in Arab countires

    I used to like Hassan Nisar for his bold statements but this guy is extremely negative in his thinking. I feel he is an attention seeker who would bash the whole system to gain publicity. There are plenty of positive things happening in Pakistan but whenever you will see him speaking on the TV... He would be bashing the politicians, society, culture and the Muslim Ummah. For a change, it's OK to listen to him but when he you subscribe to his videos... You will find similar content in almost every talk-show. I don't understand why doesn't he stick with the problems in Pakistan and spare Muslim countries in his arguments. Why doesn't he give solution to the problems he highlights in every single TV program. Does he only appear to curse the nation or does he have anything better to say?

    Why can't he see the thriving higher education system of Pakistan where back in 2002 we had 50~ Universities in Pakistan and now we have 132 universities. Why can't he see the rising number of knowledge workers in the country from 276274 in 2001 to over 1 million in 2011. Why don't he see we were producing only 200 PHD's in 2002 which is now risen up to 1000 PHD's per year. Why don't he see we were publishing only 816 International research papers back in 2002 which is now risen up to 6000 papers last year. Why don't he realize the fact that we Pakistanis are striving to improve the situation in the country and 1500 Pakistani students returned to Pakistan after completing their PHD's in International Universities from all over the world and now working in Pakistani universities to make a difference. Education sector is just one example, there are plenty of more examples in other departments as well. I don't care what other nations does... I really don't want to know what Arabs are doing with other Muslims or Persians are doing with other sects of Muslims. We are Pakistanis and I am only interested in Pakistan related discussion in his interviews. We are an under-developed country and every under-developed nation has thousands of problems to tackle with. They literally have to start everything from scratch. If people like him appear on television to curse the whole society without giving solutions... I would better ignore them

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    Default Re: MUST WATCH: Hassan Nisar on Pakistan's Muslims in Arab countires

    Its a clear fact that Pakistanis and other South Asians are treated worse then crap in the Middle East. Yet you will still see some Pakistanis (PDF is a good example) ready to jack off the Arabs at any time. It's pretty sad that their so Muslim brothers don't give a fck about Pakistanis and in their eyes every South Asian is a slave. One Arab I met told me that my blood is yellow because I'm not an Arab lol. Not to mention Saudi Arabia funds terrorists in Pakistan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zakii View Post
    I used to like Hassan Nisar for his bold statements but this guy is extremely negative in his thinking. I feel he is an attention seeker who would bash the whole system to gain publicity. There are plenty of positive things happening in Pakistan but whenever you will see him speaking on the TV... He would be bashing the politicians, society, culture and the Muslim Ummah. For a change, it's OK to listen to him but when he you subscribe to his videos... You will find similar content in almost every talk-show. I don't understand why doesn't he stick with the problems in Pakistan and spare Muslim countries in his arguments. Why doesn't he give solution to the problems he highlights in every single TV program. Does he only appear to curse the nation or does he have anything better to say?

    Why can't he see the thriving higher education system of Pakistan where back in 2002 we had 50~ Universities in Pakistan and now we have 132 universities. Why can't he see the rising number of knowledge workers in the country from 276274 in 2001 to over 1 million in 2011. Why don't he see we were producing only 200 PHD's in 2002 which is now risen up to 1000 PHD's per year. Why don't he see we were publishing only 816 International research papers back in 2002 which is now risen up to 6000 papers last year. Why don't he realize the fact that we Pakistanis are striving to improve the situation in the country and 1500 Pakistani students returned to Pakistan after completing their PHD's in International Universities from all over the world and now working in Pakistani universities to make a difference. Education sector is just one example, there are plenty of more examples in other departments as well. I don't care what other nations does... I really don't want to know what Arabs are doing with other Muslims or Persians are doing with other sects of Muslims. We are Pakistanis and I am only interested in Pakistan related discussion in his interviews. We are an under-developed country and every under-developed nation has thousands of problems to tackle with. They literally have to start everything from scratch. If people like him appear on television to curse the whole society without giving solutions... I would better ignore them
    you made a good point there, i havent seen all of the shows this guys been on nd only seen him couple of times so if he is indeed very pessmistic to such an extent that he always sees th glass half empty despite all of th success then yes that does tend to get boring knowing you can only expect the same rhetoric from the man over and over again, however we do need pessimists like him to give us a wke up call when we are stuck in our delusional ummah dreams.

    Pessimists and Optimists, both are necessary.

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    Default Re: MUST WATCH: Hassan Nisar on Pakistan's Muslims in Arab countires

    It all depends which class you belong... simple rule...


    here you go face slap on every Pakistani....

    here the middle class treats lower class as inferior, when the same middle class goes to middle east and treated as lower class, they say oh Arabs are racist....

    bhaiyo its called Jesa moun wasi chapair !!

    have you ever thought about your treatment with the lower class in Pakistan???


    P.S as for advice stay in your league. rest is all racist !!
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    Mr Nisar is 100% correct - sad but truth and truth hurts

    It hurt me to the core , and I wish there was a statement that can be stated to discredit him but all that he says in the message is 100% correct and a real reflection of the situation
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    @ Hassan_Ishtiaq ( #7)
    Outstanding work being done by Mr Ansar Burney. He must be doing all this at a great risk to himself. Hats off to him. Maybe it is time the governments of the affected countries stepped in to stop this exploitation.
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