Pakistan police suspended after parading naked couple

[RazPaK]

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Does the Pakistan Penal Code require a warrant to break into a private residence? Without such a legal instrument covering their actions, what is the difference between these "policemen" and criminals?

The neighbors complained so the police had to take action, but at the same time they told the BBC reporters that the Police were out of line and that the punishment was completely unjustified.



@ Joe Shearer the internet Hindu. Stop instigating me into trolling. I don't even bother replying to most of your dogma.

[Joe Shearer]

The neighbors complained so the police had to take action, but at the same time they told the BBC reporters that the Police were out of line and that the punishment was completely unjustified.



@ Joe Shearer the internet Hindu. Stop instigating me into trolling. I don't even bother replying to most of your dogma.

Pavlov rules.

[RazPaK]

Pavlov rules.

How many times have you ran for the food?

[BelligerentPacifist]

Fortunately for the victims, I think Mr. Zia's Hudood Laws could be evoked and Qizaaf applied. Qizaaf is hard, and the policemen would theoretically be made to dole out money through the nose and their testimoney never accepted in a court of law, which is ironic considering they're policemen!

[Joe Shearer]

How many times have you ran for the food?

QED. It's so satisfying.

[Thorough Pro]

OMG, don't you know?

Irfan Baloch the mod, is a SSP. He was deputed to FC a while back as well, and also ISI.

Well, thats a news for me too, but is it ok to blow somesones cover like that?

[Foo_Fighter]

It seems that everyone here either has comprehension issues or is overly emotional. Even according to Islamic law this punishment is not acceptable, so how can the fools here accuse me of justifying this act?

Sir, just out of curiosity... if I may ask.. is your real name Zahid Hamid???

[Atanz]

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@ Joe Shearer.
@ VCheng.

Yes, I would agree that our police forces badly need reform. Various aspects can be blamed for the abysmal state of law enforcement in South Asia. To begin with any police force tends to reflect or be a mirror of the society it operates in. So policing is going to be differant in FATA, Islamabad, remote town in Sindh etc.

Organizational structure, improvements in the penal code, increase in resource allocation, professional management, reduction in direct political control all need looking at but I can't help but think that like any organization the biggest asset a police force has is the manpower it has.

I have no idea how things are in India but in Pakistan most policeman are simply not fit for the uniform they wear. That would apply to their physique but most importantly their character. If the police in Pakistan took more effort in recruiting the right people for the police force and then giving them good training I think things would improve enormously. Man/woman maketh the organization.

One of the biggest quality of life factors for any citizens is the law and order. The political class in Pakistan don't want a efficient, independant police force because the turf over which they lord over would be subjected to some control or accountability. If our political class wanted to could make available the resources [ the cost for a well resourced police force is far less than the military ] but there is no political will to do anything.

That is why various studies and reports gather dust and non have been genuinely implemented because the elites would be the first to feel the heat from a decent law enforcement body. Dr. Shoaib Suddle is regarded as a leading police and justice sector reform specialist in Pakistan but his report has not been acted on.

http://www.unafei.or.jp/english/pdf/.../no60/ch05.pdf

[VCheng]

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@ Joe Shearer.
@ VCheng.

................ The political class in Pakistan don't want a efficient, independant police force because the turf over which they lord over would be subjected to some control or accountability. If our political class wanted to could make available the resources [ the cost for a well resourced police force is far less than the military ] but there is no political will to do anything...............

Very well put Sir. This begs the question just how can Pakistan have a bright future, or indeed even a future, when its own political elite are the worst offenders in acting against its own interests? Surely, something must need to change, and soon.

[Atanz]

This begs the question just how can Pakistan have a bright future, or indeed even a future, when its own political elite are the worst offenders in acting against its own interests? Surely, something must need to change, and soon.

I agree 100% with you. You might have noticed I actually often take umbrage at the continous Anti-Americanism you see displayed in these forums. I probably know more about the wrongs America has done than all the 'US flag burners' in Pakistan put togather but the reason I find this reflex annoying, found so often in Pakistan is simple.

I think the elite in Pakistan have concocted a lethal cocktail for the consumption of the masses [ to borrow Marxist language] to cover from their own failure and the recipe is simple.

Radical Islam and Anti-Americanism. These have been used to drug the toiling masses in Pakistan to deflect from their own abuse, plunder and rape of their own peoples. They have failed to even provide basic sanitation [ even Harrapans in 3000 bc managed that ] or even electricity or bread on the table.

A average Pakistani has had his, his wife's and his children's posteriors shafted by the elite until there is not much left but just a vacous space but the said emaciated posterior moans and b*tches about what USA is doing and how the Muslim's in Cyrenaica are being treated.

Whilst use of religion as a opiate is nothing new [as Marx said] but our elite can be credited with fanning Anti-Americanism in Pakistan.

General sentiment seems to be 'let us go sort out USA first and then we can sort later the more pressing problems at home like rampant poverty and injustice'.

[VCheng]

^^^ Thank you for that post, which conveys my thoughts too.

[VCheng]

^^^ Thank you for that post, which conveys my thoughts too.

To add to that, there must be a way to break this stranglehold on the nation's future. There has to be.

[Peregrine]

It's a shame that the SSP Irfan Baloch, wasn't willing to penalize the perpetrators.........untill media spread the news like a wild fire and then inorder to save his skin. He did ,what they say in punjabi " Goongluon tu mitti charna"

[iPhone]

The police in S Asia has completely lost it..I thought Indian police were heartless - it seems all over.

Source: http://www.defence.pk/forums/current...#ixzz22jSD79QW

Pakistani police were proved heartless, emotionless and full of cruelty when two years ago they stood guard of an angry mob that
Lynched two brothers in broad daylight.

[harpoon]

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In India (and also in Pakistan I think), Police is refereed to as a'Force' following the British colonial tradition while in UK they are referred to as 'Service'. That itself explain a lot.