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    Human rights group: Hamas disinters Christians in Gaza

    Every three minutes a Christian is being tortured in the Muslim world, and in 2009 more than 165,000 Christians will have been killed because of their faith, most of them in Muslim countries, according to a human rights organization that is visiting Israel starting Sunday.

    Majed El Shafie, who will head a delegation of human rights activists, members of parliament from Canada and religious personalities at the Van Leer Institute inJerusalem.

    "Hamas digs up the bodies of Christians from Christian burial sites in the Gaza Strip claiming that they pollute the earth," said Reverend Majed El Shafie, President of One Free World International (OFWI), who will head a delegation of human rights activists, members of parliament from Canada and religious personalities.

    During their visit to Israel the delegation will hold a conference on human rights and persecuted minorities at the Van Leer Institute in Jerusalem. The conference will provide new statistics on the persecution of minorities in Muslim countries.

    El Shafie said that between 200-300 million Christians are being persecuted in the world, 80 percent of whom lived in Muslim countries and the rest in communist and other countries.

    Members of the delegation will meet with Knesset Speaker Reuven Rivlin, Deputy Minister of Foreign Affairs Danny Ayalon and Mayor ofJerusalem Nir Barkat in the hope of enlisting Israel to champion their cause.

    OFWI is a human rights organization whose headquarters are located in Toronto, Canada. The organization numbers some 3,000 members, divided into 28 branches that are active in countries all over the world, including Egypt, Jordan, Syria, Afghanistan, Pakistan and even Iran.

    El Shafie, 32, was born in Cairo to a distinguished Muslim family of lawyers and judges. Through a Christian friend he was exposed at an early age to hatred toward the Christian minority in Egypt.

    He decided to convert to Christianity, wrote a book about it and as a result became an outcast and a victim of oppression.

    In 1998 he was arrested, imprisoned, tortured and condemned to death.

    El Shafie managed to escape, fled to the Sinai, where a Beduin family hid him for two months, and crossed the Israeli border on a jet-ski. Hewas arrested in Israel and was imprisoned for over a year in Beersheba, until he was released through the assistance of the UN, Amnesty International and the International Christian Embassy inJerusalem, which managed to obtain political asylum for El Shafie in Canada, where he emigrated. He founded OFWI in 2004.
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    Default Re: Every three minutes a Christian is being tortured in the Muslim world

    It is pretty clear that the historical Christian communities in Muslim majority nations are gradually being extinguished. There were hundreds of Christian sects and communities scattered over Africa and the Middle East that formed in the centuries after Jesus but before Mohammad. Most have been wiped out or pressured into a subservient existence by the Muslim majorities. Ironically, the creation of Israel, engendering Muslim anger at "the West", has hastened the extinction of these indigenous communities.
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    Israeli media... Sounds unbelievable especially since I've not seen it happened in front of my eyes even once - given that I've lived in the Muslim world all my life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Asim Aquil View Post
    Israeli media... Sounds unbelievable especially since I've not seen it happened in front of my eyes even once - given that I've lived in the Muslim world all my life.
    What else are you gonna expect out of the such media outlets and countries who have biased approach.

    Hundreds, thousands of Muslims including Women, Children, Elderly get killed mercilessly, mosques get attacked and destroyed, Ban on constructing minarets of mosques are slapped, nuns can wear their full religious gear covering from head to tow while Muslims gets banned wearing their religious dress code covering them from head to tow, all such things are justified but when one Christian or Jew gets killed or gets a bad treatment, Muslims become the terrorists or the oppressors and whole world media starts vilifying Muslims.

    So called western democracy and their freedom of speech & human rights, can't find bigger example of hypocrisy then this.

    Also, we shouldn't be surprised, has been happening, will keep happening till the day we _____________________________
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    Default Re: Every three minutes a Christian is being tortured in the Muslim world

    @ solomon , When you will kill our Kids , blow up their schools / houses detain their Parents Cut down food , water supply even building material ....

    When you will rape our women and burn their bodies , when you go and bomb innocent civilians with Apache's , When you pitt your Merkava's against boys on the streets ....

    when you will capture someone else's land and kick the inhabitants out of their places to make houses for your Extremist jews ......

    What should you Expect???

    You deserve even more , and you will reap what you sowed .....This is God's Law.!

    The messia you are waiting for will come along another Salahdin and at that day you will repent at what you did to US ....

    Allah's Curse on Israel will continue , you have been hated for centuries and you will be the most hated in future ....
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    Default Re: Every three minutes a Christian is being tortured in the Muslim world

    Unbelievable.....!!! would be very sad if true

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    Default Re: Every three minutes a Christian is being tortured in the Muslim world

    judging by the number of muslims you've met your life how many have tried to kill you ? im assuming you are a christian ?


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    Even a death is sad and condemnable.

    But there is another side of coin.

    The missionaries are always unfair to the natives and huge number of western people historically have treated natives.

    Muslims are not aliens but media hypes every wrong of a muslim individual and hides the wrong actions of Christians. If a individual muslim found killing a person they says a jehadi or islamic terrorist but if a australian attacks a indian they don't say it's racist christian.

    Hitler was also ultra orthodox christen thats why he killed jews but they tag him as nazi or bad only because he challenge britishers etc. but don't highlight his christian identity.

    Christian missionaries have done and are doing many ill tactics and involve in defaming native religions like Islam/Hinduism/Buddhist etc. but they get away with everything.

    In myanmar its not bout democracy but about An Sang Su Chi a Christian in a Buddhist majority county.

    The forefathers of current Americans and Australions have killed millions of native residents of Australiya and America, but they can get away nobody paint them bad or racist/butcher etc..
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    Default Re: Every three minutes a Christian is being tortured in the Muslim world

    It's remarkable how such statistics can be printed without backing of substantial proof.

    As I said, Israeli media. It has an agenda to push.
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    Default Re: Every three minutes a Christian is being tortured in the Muslim world

    What's ironic is that people like Solomon2 and TruthSeeker will promote this anti-Muslim stereotype, but will complain loudly about anti-Semitism when any wrongdoing by Israel is exposed.
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    1400 year ago, Islam came into existence. But still you find Christians and Jews in those area where Islam early spread like Palestine, Syria etc. Why are they alive. How come they are living there from centuries. How come they are not all dead and extinguished?
    Pathetic Way of defaming Islam and Muslims.
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    No i think, in muslim majority countries its policy to protect and give priority for the intrest of muslims. Given the laws in Saudi,iran and even pakistan. So i wouldnt be surprised if i hear more stories like the above. But where as in every other part of the world, you have an equal rights for all religions.

    And the bombings and the killings that you mentioned, i doubt it is against muslims. Well no it is not against muslims, it was against terrorists, but it is these terrorists who have made it into a religious fight, to garner more support.

    The west gave brith to israel, the same west gave brith to the islamic republic of pakistan, so we can't blame them for showing religous descrimination, but yes ofcourse we can blame them for their imperliasitic nature.
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    Quote Originally Posted by afriend View Post
    No i think, in muslim majority countries its policy to protect and give priority for the intrest of muslims. Given the laws in Saudi,iran and even pakistan. So i wouldnt be surprised if i hear more stories like the above. But where as in every other part of the world, you have an equal rights for all religions.

    And the bombings and the killings that you mentioned, i doubt it is against muslims. Well no it is not against muslims, it was against terrorists, but it is these terrorists who have made it into a religious fight, to garner more support.

    The west gave brith to israel, the same west gave brith to the islamic republic of pakistan, so we can't blame them for showing religous descrimination, but yes ofcourse we can blame them for their imperliasitic nature.
    Caution to Indian Hindus: you really don't want to get into a mud slinging match about religious rights with others. Not with so many skeletons in your own closet. *cough* 1984 Sikhs *cough* 2002 Gujarat *cough* Burning christians alive *cough* eradication of Buddhism from India *cough* *cough*
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    Quote Originally Posted by Developereo View Post
    Caution to Indian Hindus: you really don't want to get into a mud slinging match about religious rights with others. Not with so many skeletons in your own closet. *cough* 1984 Sikhs *cough* 2002 Gujarat *cough* Burning christians alive *cough* eradication of Buddhism from India *cough* *cough*
    There you go again, here you don't introspect you accuse. I would be up for a frank introspection. Look into your own constitution and compare it with ours or any other western countries. You will find the answer. And for a gujrat there is a 26/11 for a godhra there is 9/11 and many stories as mentioned in the above article so i am not intrested in a mud slinging match brother, its you who is doing this without contesting the argument i raised.
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    Quote Originally Posted by afriend View Post
    Look into your own constitution and compare it with ours or any other western countries.
    The constitution is irrelevant when facts on the ground do not match up. Lots of countries have laws about everything, but the question is how/if they are enforced, and do the people follow the spirit of the law?


    Quote Originally Posted by afriend View Post
    i am not intrested in a mud slinging match
    On the contrary, you tried to validate an anti-Muslim rant by our Jewish poster, one of the many Israeli apologists on this forum.

    You did not point out that innocent Muslims face discrimination, torture, and abuse (under the guise of GWOT) in non-Muslim countries. You did not point out that all religions are guilty of abuse. You did not point out that Israel is modelled after apartheid-era South Africa, institutionalizes religious bigotry in its very consttitution (Law of Return), and is one of the worst offenders in terms of ethnic cleansing.

    Instead, you piled on the anti-Muslim bandwagon with your myopic take on the subject and selective claims about Muslim-majority countries. You can try all you want to backpeddle and explain your words "in context", but nobody's going to buy your weaseling.
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