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    Capt. Bharat Verma is the editor of Indian Defence Review. A quarterly journal read by leading policy makers at senior bureaucratic, political and military levels, the IDR is renowned as the "most-quoted Indian defence publication". Capt. Verma is also the founder and current editor of Lancer Publishers, a publishing house dedicated to defence and security matters.

    Indians pose the biggest threat to the Union of India.

    The reason is simple. An average Indian is merely an individual. His personal well-being overrides all other considerations, including national interests.


    This is perhaps why many have begun to propagate parting of Kashmir in their write-ups, since it does not belong individually to them. However, imagine the hue and cry if their personal property and family is held hostage by the terrorists. They will sing a different tune.

    The blame lies with New Delhi. For the past 60 years, instead of consolidating the Union, leaders encouraged divisiveness on the basis of religion and caste for sheer vote bank politics. Instead of unifying its citizenry with good governance and increasing their stakes through prosperity, so that they may serve the cause of the nation with honor, it has treated its citizens with unprecedented shabbiness.

    The result: groups of citizens have risen against the state, mostly for lack of economic progress and denial of justice. Such disgruntled groups are being taken advantage of by the external forces inimical to India.

    There can never be unity in diversity. Unity requires a fair amount of uniformity in laws throughout the Union.

    That New Delhi is its own worst enemy became obvious when it permitted the creation of a pure Islamic State on its borders. This nation-state contradicts every democratic and multi-cultural value dear to India. Therefore, if New Delhi has not slept a wink since the creation of Pakistan, it has no one except itself to blame!

    Islamabad, besides the wars it imposed on New Delhi, extended its so-called Islamic purity to the Kashmir Valley by instigating the locals to carry out ethnic cleansing of the minority communities.

    Hence, first we created a state with inbuilt characteristic of fundamentalism and extreme philosophy contrary to our professed beliefs; then the monster in it started ethnic cleansing in the Valley; and engineered demographic changes through Bangladesh in West Bengal, Assam and the Northeast.

    Saudi Arabia and other Islamic oil-rich countries pitched in with the petro-dollars in support, all in the cause of the illusion called Ummah and the establishment of the Caliphate.

    The Indian leadership, for its personal vote-bank gains, helped these inimical forces by invoking the Illegal Migrants (determination by Tribunals) or IMDT Act in Assam, which was subsequently shot down by the Supreme Court. The damage was done, as the Union’s overburdened security forces grapple with 15 million illegal Bangladesh infiltrators creating mayhem on Indian soil.

    Islamabad, Dhaka, and now Kathmandu, spurred on by Beijing, have united with the singular agenda: to unhook the Valley and the Northeast from the Indian Union.

    In addition, they are instigating the Maoists, who control almost 40 n per cent of the Union’s territory, to set up a parallel government, and ultimately, like the Maoists in Nepal, win the elections in pockets of their influence, and impose a regressive authoritarian governments in tune with their own regime.


    And yet, New Delhi, instead of consolidating and unifying the Union , continues to divide its citizenry in religious or caste denominations.

    Over the past 60 years, New Delhi’s muddle-headed policies actually encouraged separatism. Instead of ensuring diffusion of secular pan-Indian culture and the integration of the society by encouraging Indians from all over to buy and develop land and industry in the Valley and the Northeast, it imposed restrictions on such settlements.

    Meanwhile, Pakistan and Bangladesh exported their fundamentalist population to these areas to change the demographic hues in their favour. The ugly separatist face of the agitation in the Valley today is the consequence of the dereliction of the fundamental duty by the Union.

    The trend needs to be reversed forcibly by integrating the Valley firmly into the Indian mainstream by creating a secular mix of population through industrialisation.

    Many conveniently propose the myth that a stable Pakistan is in India’s favour. This is a false proposition. The truth is that Pakistan is bad news for the Indian Union since 1947–stable or otherwise.

    Islamabad has enjoyed brief periods of political stability since the birth of Pakistan. But even during these interludes, it continued to export terrorism, fake currency and narcotics to India. It continued its attempts to change the demography along our borders, and cultivated sleeper cells and armed groups inside our territory to create an uprising at an appropriate time.


    Also, it aligned with Beijing and other powers, in a mutually beneficial scheme, to tie-down and ultimately cause a territorial split of the Union.

    With Pakistan on the brink of collapse due to massive internal as well as international contradictions, it is matter of time before it ceases to exist.
    Multiple benefits will accrue to the Union of India on such demise.


    If Indian national interests are defined with clarity and prioritised, the foremost threat to the Union (and for centuries before its birth) has consistently and continuously materialised on the western periphery.

    To defend this key threat to the Union, New Delhi should extend its influence through export of both soft and hard power towards Central Asia, from where invasions have been mounted over centuries. The cessation of Pakistan as a state facilitates furtherance of this pivotal national objective.

    The destructive path that Islamabad chose will either splinter the state into many parts or it will wither away—a case of natural progression to its logical conclusion. In either case Baluchistan will achieve independence.

    For New Delhi this opens a window of opportunity to ensure that the Gwadar port does not fall into the hands of the Chinese. In this, there is synergy between the political objectives of the Americans and the Indians. Our existing goodwill in Baluchistan requires intelligent leveraging.

    Sindh and most of the non-Punjabi areas of Pakistan will be our new friends.

    Pakistan’s breakup will be a major setback to the Jihad Factory, which functions with the help of its army and the ISI. This in turn will ease pressures on India and the international community.

    With China’s one arm, i.e. Pakistan disabled, its expansionist plans will receive a severe jolt. Beijing continues to pose another primary threat to New Delhi. Even as we continue to engage with it as constructively as possible, we must strive to remove the proxy.

    At the same time, it is prudent to extend moral support to the people of Tibet to sink Chinese expansionism in the morass of insurgency. For a change, let us do to them what they do to us.


    With Pakistan gone, the chances of Central Asia getting infected with the ****** fervour will recede. Afghanistan will gain fair amount of stability. India’s access to Central Asian energy routes will open up.


    With disintegration of ISI’s inimical activities of infiltration and pushing of fake currency into India, from Nepal and Bangladesh will cease. Within the Union social harmony will improve enormously. Export of Islamic fundamentalism, with its 360-degree sweep from Islamabad, will vanish. Even a country like Thailand will heave a sigh of relief.

    Above all, the gathering threat from a united group of authoritarian regimes along our 14,000 km borders, orchestrated and synchronised by Pakistan, will dissolve.

    At the height of the recent disturbances in the Valley, when a general asked me for a suggestion to resolve the issue, I said: “ Remove Pakistan. The threat will disappear permanently.” Today the collapse of Pakistan as a state is almost certain. All the King’s men cannot save it from itself.


    Looking ahead, New Delhi should formulate an appropriate strategy for ‘post-Pakistan scenario’ to secure India’s interests in Central Asia.


    It is intriguing, therefore, to hear New Delhi mouthing the falsehood that stable Pakistan is in India’s favour. Perpetuation of such illogic for vote-bank politics is harming the consolidation and integration of the Union.

    Short-sighted politicians as usual are overlooking the national interest for the short-term personal gains of a few votes.

    The writer is Editor, Indian Defence Review

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    Thats what their agenda is, to destabilize Pakistan and thats why (I pray to Allah it doesn't happen) we may see attacks on civilian & non-American targets in future. Just like one train track bombing happened today. Objective is to weaken Pakistan and try to get control of nukes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dr.umer View Post
    Thats what their agenda is, to destabilize Pakistan and thats why (I pray to Allah it doesn't happen) we may see attacks on civilian & non-American targets in future. Just like one train track bombing happened today. Objective is to weaken Pakistan and try to get control of nukes.
    exactly. Why one wonders that who is destabalizing Pakistan along with others.

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    Capt. Bharat Verma is the editor of Indian Defence Review. A quarterly journal read by leading policy makers at senior bureaucratic, political and military levels, the IDR is renowned as the "most-quoted Indian defence publication". Capt. Verma is also the founder and current editor of Lancer Publishers, a publishing house dedicated to defence and security matters.

    Indians pose the biggest threat to the Union of India.

    The reason is simple. An average Indian is merely an individual. His personal well-being overrides all other considerations, including national interests.


    This is perhaps why many have begun to propagate parting of Kashmir in their write-ups, since it does not belong individually to them. However, imagine the hue and cry if their personal property and family is held hostage by the terrorists. They will sing a different tune.

    The blame lies with New Delhi. For the past 60 years, instead of consolidating the Union, leaders encouraged divisiveness on the basis of religion and caste for sheer vote bank politics. Instead of unifying its citizenry with good governance and increasing their stakes through prosperity, so that they may serve the cause of the nation with honor, it has treated its citizens with unprecedented shabbiness.

    The result: groups of citizens have risen against the state, mostly for lack of economic progress and denial of justice. Such disgruntled groups are being taken advantage of by the external forces inimical to India.

    There can never be unity in diversity. Unity requires a fair amount of uniformity in laws throughout the Union.

    That New Delhi is its own worst enemy became obvious when it permitted the creation of a pure Islamic State on its borders. This nation-state contradicts every democratic and multi-cultural value dear to India. Therefore, if New Delhi has not slept a wink since the creation of Pakistan, it has no one except itself to blame!

    Islamabad, besides the wars it imposed on New Delhi, extended its so-called Islamic purity to the Kashmir Valley by instigating the locals to carry out ethnic cleansing of the minority communities.

    Hence, first we created a state with inbuilt characteristic of fundamentalism and extreme philosophy contrary to our professed beliefs; then the monster in it started ethnic cleansing in the Valley; and engineered demographic changes through Bangladesh in West Bengal, Assam and the Northeast.

    Saudi Arabia and other Islamic oil-rich countries pitched in with the petro-dollars in support, all in the cause of the illusion called Ummah and the establishment of the Caliphate.

    The Indian leadership, for its personal vote-bank gains, helped these inimical forces by invoking the Illegal Migrants (determination by Tribunals) or IMDT Act in Assam, which was subsequently shot down by the Supreme Court. The damage was done, as the Union’s overburdened security forces grapple with 15 million illegal Bangladesh infiltrators creating mayhem on Indian soil.

    Islamabad, Dhaka, and now Kathmandu, spurred on by Beijing, have united with the singular agenda: to unhook the Valley and the Northeast from the Indian Union.

    In addition, they are instigating the Maoists, who control almost 40 n per cent of the Union’s territory, to set up a parallel government, and ultimately, like the Maoists in Nepal, win the elections in pockets of their influence, and impose a regressive authoritarian governments in tune with their own regime.


    And yet, New Delhi, instead of consolidating and unifying the Union , continues to divide its citizenry in religious or caste denominations.

    Over the past 60 years, New Delhi’s muddle-headed policies actually encouraged separatism. Instead of ensuring diffusion of secular pan-Indian culture and the integration of the society by encouraging Indians from all over to buy and develop land and industry in the Valley and the Northeast, it imposed restrictions on such settlements.

    Meanwhile, Pakistan and Bangladesh exported their fundamentalist population to these areas to change the demographic hues in their favour. The ugly separatist face of the agitation in the Valley today is the consequence of the dereliction of the fundamental duty by the Union.

    The trend needs to be reversed forcibly by integrating the Valley firmly into the Indian mainstream by creating a secular mix of population through industrialisation.

    Many conveniently propose the myth that a stable Pakistan is in India’s favour. This is a false proposition. The truth is that Pakistan is bad news for the Indian Union since 1947–stable or otherwise.

    Islamabad has enjoyed brief periods of political stability since the birth of Pakistan. But even during these interludes, it continued to export terrorism, fake currency and narcotics to India. It continued its attempts to change the demography along our borders, and cultivated sleeper cells and armed groups inside our territory to create an uprising at an appropriate time.


    Also, it aligned with Beijing and other powers, in a mutually beneficial scheme, to tie-down and ultimately cause a territorial split of the Union.

    With Pakistan on the brink of collapse due to massive internal as well as international contradictions, it is matter of time before it ceases to exist.
    Multiple benefits will accrue to the Union of India on such demise.


    If Indian national interests are defined with clarity and prioritised, the foremost threat to the Union (and for centuries before its birth) has consistently and continuously materialised on the western periphery.

    To defend this key threat to the Union, New Delhi should extend its influence through export of both soft and hard power towards Central Asia, from where invasions have been mounted over centuries. The cessation of Pakistan as a state facilitates furtherance of this pivotal national objective.

    The destructive path that Islamabad chose will either splinter the state into many parts or it will wither away—a case of natural progression to its logical conclusion. In either case Baluchistan will achieve independence.

    For New Delhi this opens a window of opportunity to ensure that the Gwadar port does not fall into the hands of the Chinese. In this, there is synergy between the political objectives of the Americans and the Indians. Our existing goodwill in Baluchistan requires intelligent leveraging.

    Sindh and most of the non-Punjabi areas of Pakistan will be our new friends.

    Pakistan’s breakup will be a major setback to the Jihad Factory, which functions with the help of its army and the ISI. This in turn will ease pressures on India and the international community.

    With China’s one arm, i.e. Pakistan disabled, its expansionist plans will receive a severe jolt. Beijing continues to pose another primary threat to New Delhi. Even as we continue to engage with it as constructively as possible, we must strive to remove the proxy.

    At the same time, it is prudent to extend moral support to the people of Tibet to sink Chinese expansionism in the morass of insurgency. For a change, let us do to them what they do to us.


    With Pakistan gone, the chances of Central Asia getting infected with the ****** fervour will recede. Afghanistan will gain fair amount of stability. India’s access to Central Asian energy routes will open up.


    With disintegration of ISI’s inimical activities of infiltration and pushing of fake currency into India, from Nepal and Bangladesh will cease. Within the Union social harmony will improve enormously. Export of Islamic fundamentalism, with its 360-degree sweep from Islamabad, will vanish. Even a country like Thailand will heave a sigh of relief.

    Above all, the gathering threat from a united group of authoritarian regimes along our 14,000 km borders, orchestrated and synchronised by Pakistan, will dissolve.

    At the height of the recent disturbances in the Valley, when a general asked me for a suggestion to resolve the issue, I said: “ Remove Pakistan. The threat will disappear permanently.” Today the collapse of Pakistan as a state is almost certain. All the King’s men cannot save it from itself.


    Looking ahead, New Delhi should formulate an appropriate strategy for ‘post-Pakistan scenario’ to secure India’s interests in Central Asia.


    It is intriguing, therefore, to hear New Delhi mouthing the falsehood that stable Pakistan is in India’s favour. Perpetuation of such illogic for vote-bank politics is harming the consolidation and integration of the Union.

    Short-sighted politicians as usual are overlooking the national interest for the short-term personal gains of a few votes.

    The writer is Editor, Indian Defence Review
    Not all think this way even in India but then again there are those who do. The point is that why are we giving them a chance to destabilize us. It should be pretty evident on us all that US is playing a dubious game in Afghanistan and there is a clear cut differentiation between terrorism that effects them and that effects us.
    The best solution to all this crisis will be that once we root out all terrorism from Bajur and the writ of the government is establish there, we need to shut down the afghan border, seal it, fence it, mine it what ever it takes just do it, irrespective of what the US says or its dog says. After that start pounding money into that area, give it the ultimate priority on all other provinces, improve the law&order situation, once achieved, encourage the chinese to start using gawadar, stop touring the US every now and then and start focusing on regional powers Russia for instance. Try to cover up the lost time. Only then can we survive in a situation like this. We need to set our priorties straight. This love with the US will lead us nowhere other then the chaos and self destruction. God bless Pakistan.
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    "Islamabad, Dhaka, and now Kathmandu, spurred on by Beijing, have united with the singular agenda: to unhook the Valley and the Northeast from the Indian Union.

    In addition, they are instigating the Maoists, who control almost 40 n per cent of the Union’s territory, to set up a parallel government, and ultimately, like the Maoists in Nepal, win the elections in pockets of their influence, and impose a regressive authoritarian governments in tune with their own regime."



    I think the GoP needs to take a more aggresive stance when it comes to dealing with india.
    We need to give military/moral/poiltical support to the Maoists in there fight against the indian "regressive authoritarian government".
    The best bet for peace is if the countries surrounding india work together on dividing india into 5/10 nations.

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    today the laskar in bajur has captured a HINDU one tribeman was saying on ary onworld

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    LOL. Frankly I'm just suprised anyone takes this 'Editor' seriously, but then again these are Indians we're talking about...

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    India has realized that Pakistan is not a tiny power as Pakistanis kill many Moosaad & RAW agents in 1987.
    Tht's why india has never ever think for a stable Pakistan.
    If there is a stable Pakistan then there will be a huge pressure from Pk on India regarding Kashmir.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dabong1 View Post
    "Islamabad, Dhaka, and now Kathmandu, spurred on by Beijing, have united with the singular agenda: to unhook the Valley and the Northeast from the Indian Union.

    In addition, they are instigating the Maoists, who control almost 40 n per cent of the Union’s territory, to set up a parallel government, and ultimately, like the Maoists in Nepal, win the elections in pockets of their influence, and impose a regressive authoritarian governments in tune with their own regime."



    I think the GoP needs to take a more aggresive stance when it comes to dealing with india.
    We need to give military/moral/poiltical support to the Maoists in there fight against the indian "regressive authoritarian government".
    The best bet for peace is if the countries surrounding india work together on dividing india into 5/10 nations.
    The best bet for the region , espicially for a particular country in the region is to get its house in order & to stop dreaming of controlling or guiding events outside it borders till it can run its writ within.

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    Quote Originally Posted by third eye View Post
    The best bet for the region , espicially for a particular country in the region is to get its house in order & to stop dreaming of controlling or guiding events outside it borders till it can run its writ within.
    Any condemnation, as an Indian, of the views expressed by the author?

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    Reads like the kind of thing one reads on WAB - It's zeal of the convert, with US and Israeli neo-cons support some elements of Indian society have imagined patriotism to be the same as chauvanism.

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    in the presence of the current regime, only one can dream, the situation gets better!!

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    Contrary to the views of the author I believe a stable Pakistan would be in the interest of the India. Even if Pakistan breaks up this will lead to more unstability in the region. Remember before 1971 India had one country of worry about and that was Pakistan. Now they have Bangladesh and Pakistan to worry about. What do Indians want four more Pakistans.

    Any ways thats not going to happen so keep on dreamingits good for health

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    The best bet for the region , espicially for a particular country in the region is to get its house in order & to stop dreaming of controlling or guiding events outside it borders till it can run its writ within.
    Yes now look who is speaking, it would seem we Pakistanis were the ones who wrote this article about dismembering our rivals through proxy insurrection.

    Any condemnation, as an Indian, of the views expressed by the author?
    LOL. You're barking up the wrong tree mate. Consider this an interesting insight into the true nature of our Indian friends here in the forum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kasrkin View Post
    LOL. You're barking up the wrong tree mate. Consider this an interesting insight into the true nature of our Indian friends here in the forum.
    Well, we need to have the courtesy to atleast ask for a response/opinion before forming our own.

    Not all Indians are necessarily rabid Pakistan haters like the author of this article.


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