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    Diplomacy before democracy: ‘Pakistan should have supported China in UN Syria vote’

    PESHAWAR: In the United Nations Security Council’s vote on Syria, Pakistan should have supported China keeping in view its brotherly relations with the neighbour, Senator Salim Saifullah has said.
    Saifullah, who chairs the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, told reporters at his residence in Peshawar on Sunday that when China vetoed the resolution on Syria, the Pakistani envoy should have supported China instead of voting against Syria. He said that as the committee chairperson, he would call a meeting and discuss the matter with other panel members.

    The senator also spoke about the US Congressmen’s hearing on Balochistan, saying his party the Pakistan Muslim League-Quaid (Likeminded) condemned the move as it amounted to direct interference by the US in Pakistan’s affairs. He also took the opportunity to reiterate condemnation of drone strikes, calling them in complete violation of international rules, and reaffirming the view that Nato supplies must remain suspended until drone attacks are halted completely.

    However, he used US as a positive example when discussing election of the president and Senators. Saifullah also suggested that to avoid “horse-trading”, presidential and Senate polls should be reformed and the ordinary Pakistani should be given the opportunity to elect the president and members of the Senate, similar to the pattern followed for general elections.




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    Default Re: Pakistan should have supported China in UN Syria Vote

    Quote Originally Posted by DelhiDareDevil View Post
    Summarising the thread.

    Its better to be a lapdog of China then to the western world.
    China never killed a Pakistani, China never killed a Pakistani soldier, China never attacked Pakistani territory, and China never called a hearing for the dismemberment of Pakistan.

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    Default Re: Pakistan should have supported China in UN Syria Vote

    Well third world has no choice, just like Indian support US resolution against Iran and now running away from Gas project.....
    But don't worry guys Indian also join hands with NATO and Arab Legue...
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    Default Re: Pakistan should have supported China in UN Syria Vote

    It is not necessary for Pakistan to support us on every single issue.

    We've got veto power in the UNSC, so it doesn't affect that. Pakistan should vote based on their own position, which is already very similar to ours, so there won't be any problems there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Omar1984 View Post
    China never killed a Pakistani, China never killed a Pakistani soldier, China never attacked Pakistani territory, and China never called a hearing for the dismemberment of Pakistan.
    That is because, China needs Pakistan to help counter balance India threat.

    Plus, Pakistan is not big enough, to be considered making it smaller.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DelhiDareDevil View Post
    That is because, China needs Pakistan to help counter balance India threat.

    Plus, Pakistan is not big enough, to be considered making it smaller.
    China-Pakistan relations has more to do than just indian nuisance.

    And Pakistan is bigger than most countries in the region:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Omar1984 View Post
    China-Pakistan relations has more to do than just indian nuisance.

    And Pakistan is bigger than most countries in the region:
    Well Iran is bigger, and Afghanistan has as much as HABITUAL land as Pakistan does.

    Anyway, back on topic, Pakistan shouldn't listen or follow anyone and should have its own independent policy. Only hope for that is maybe Imran Khan

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    Quote Originally Posted by crimemaster_gogo View Post
    there is first time for everything it won't happen now but later for sure the Chinese will start swallowing large portions of Pakistani land one by one, lol you sell outs sold aksai chin and now thinking of leasing gilgit baltistan and you say you're fighting for kashmiris? ek din apna pura mulk bech khaogay kya, ye chini sirf apna sochte hai, you guys will repent in future.
    They sold out Aksai Chin? I guess you have not heard of the Sino-Indian War.

    The only country in the entire world that has a problem with China in Aksai Chin, is India.

    Quote Originally Posted by crimemaster_gogo View Post
    there is first time for everything it won't happen now but later for sure the Chinese will start swallowing large portions of Pakistani land one by one, lol you sell outs sold aksai chin and now thinking of leasing gilgit baltistan and you say you're fighting for kashmiris? ek din apna pura mulk bech khaogay kya, ye chini sirf apna sochte hai, you guys will repent in future.
    What?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chinese-Dragon View Post
    It is not necessary for Pakistan to support us on every single issue.

    We've got veto power in the UNSC, so it doesn't affect that. Pakistan should vote based on their own position, which is already very similar to ours, so there won't be any problems there.
    Its simple China has no concern about this vote, because absolute veto power card is in China's hand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HAIDER View Post
    Its simple China has no concern about this vote, because absolute veto power card is in China's hand.
    Same with India and Russia too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Omar1984 View Post
    Diplomacy before democracy: ‘Pakistan should have supported China in UN Syria vote’

    PESHAWAR: In the United Nations Security Council’s vote on Syria, Pakistan should have supported China keeping in view its brotherly relations with the neighbour, Senator Salim Saifullah has said.
    Saifullah, who chairs the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, told reporters at his residence in Peshawar on Sunday that when China vetoed the resolution on Syria, the Pakistani envoy should have supported China instead of voting against Syria. He said that as the committee chairperson, he would call a meeting and discuss the matter with other panel members.

    The senator also spoke about the US Congressmen’s hearing on Balochistan, saying his party the Pakistan Muslim League-Quaid (Likeminded) condemned the move as it amounted to direct interference by the US in Pakistan’s affairs. He also took the opportunity to reiterate condemnation of drone strikes, calling them in complete violation of international rules, and reaffirming the view that Nato supplies must remain suspended until drone attacks are halted completely.

    However, he used US as a positive example when discussing election of the president and Senators. Saifullah also suggested that to avoid “horse-trading”, presidential and Senate polls should be reformed and the ordinary Pakistani should be given the opportunity to elect the president and members of the Senate, similar to the pattern followed for general elections.




    Diplomacy before democracy:
    instead of voting against Syria, Pakistan should have remained neutral, we don't know which party is innocent or guilty in the midst of all the bloodshed occurring in Syria.

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    Default Re: Pakistan should have supported China in UN Syria Vote

    Quote Originally Posted by Chinese-Dragon View Post
    They sold out Aksai Chin? I guess you have not heard of the Sino-Indian War.

    The only country in the entire world that has a problem with China in Aksai Chin, is India.



    What?
    wasn't that part which china holds now was captured by pakistani armed forces/mujhadeens back in 1947/48? later which was secretly sold/gifted to china as you claimed it to be part of southern Tibet, you started building roads and infrastructure on the disputed land which made nehru to go for forward policy. yes nehru had planned forward policy but only after chinese provoking.

    .
    .haven't you been attending pdf regularly these days ? there was a thread on pakistan leasing gilgit baltistan to china for 50 years . some pakistanis were against to the proposal but many supported it. that should make you feel happy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DelhiDareDevil View Post
    Well Iran is bigger, and Afghanistan has as much as HABITUAL land as Pakistan does.

    Anyway, back on topic, Pakistan shouldn't listen or follow anyone and should have its own independent policy. Only hope for that is maybe Imran Khan
    Iran is a Middle Eastern country not a South/Central Asian country and Afghanistan is smaller in size than Pakistan. Everything covering within international borders is not "habitual land" (whatever that means) that's the country's sovereign territory.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DelhiDareDevil View Post
    Same with India and Russia too.
    Dream on. India does not have any veto powers in the UN. Only China, Russia, UK, USA, and France have the veto power.

    And China and Russia usually are on the same side on most international issues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crimemaster_gogo View Post
    there is first time for everything it won't happen now but later for sure the Chinese will start swallowing large portions of Pakistani land one by one, lol you sell outs sold aksai chin and now thinking of leasing gilgit baltistan and you say you're fighting for kashmiris?
    It is important to research first before posting on such topics ...

    Aksai Chin is the part of Ladakh ( about ~38,000 km2 ) that you lost to China in the 1962 war ... Now what does it have to do with Pakistan in the first place ?

    Second about the Trans Karakorum Pact , Pakistan never ceded any part of its territory to China ...

    In the 1950s Pakistan became concerned that Chinese maps showed areas of Pakistan in China. In 1961 Ayub Khan sent a formal Note to China, and a year later China proposed a provisional agreement, subject to final resolution of the Kashmir dispute. Negotiations resulted in an agreement signed on 2 March 1963. The agreement resulted in China withdrawing from about 750 sq m of territory, and Pakistan abandoning its claim to about 2,050 sq m of territory (which it had not in fact occupied or administered).[10]

    Finally, Pakistan transferred no territory already under its control to China.” (Page 116; emphasis added, throughout.) It was instead China which “transferred control of some 1,942 square kilometres” to Pakistan.
    Professor M. Taylor Fravel of the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT)


    Little knowledge is really dangerous , isn't it ?
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