India bars Pakistanis from meeting Mumbai attacker

[LiberalAtheist]

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i find it funny how Pakistanis claim Kassab not to be Pakistani when the Pak gov't has already admitted to all off the mumbai attackers being Pakistani the only thing that i'm still wondering about is why hasn't this d-bag been killed yet? i'm sure there are plenty of people that would execute that bastard for no cost.

[BATMAN]

We disown every thing what Rehamn Malik says.

You shall also value non statements from non credible people.

[Kaniska]

Does Pakistan Gov will allow to meet with Dawood Ibrahim if Indian Gov want it???

[BATMAN]

Does Pakistan Gov will allow to meet with Dawood Ibrahim if Indian Gov want it???

Why don't your govt. want it?

[ashokdeiva]

Why don't your govt. want it?

our government has asked yours via all legal chanel to deport Dawood, but all in vain because your government is just a face mask and the all powerful ISI to with Dawood is a estimed guest.
secondly we feel that as a Government, your country is not matured to be stable, any time the Army General has the power to overthrough the civil elected government and the judiciary. so if we are expecting a proper investigation from your side then it would be foolish of us and its similar to expecting a mad man instead of a doctor to do a brain surgery.
Prove the world that you are commited as a nation and stable as a government and your military is in the control of your Government and not the other way arround, and then we will think about letting you met Ajmal or any other terrorist who is realizing his mis-deeds and developing love for life in our prison.

We disown every thing what Rehamn Malik says.

You shall also value non statements from non credible people.

and do you find the reason why we are intereted in your investigation. most of the Pakistanis like to disbelive the fact that the plot for 26 11 was hatched in your soil and the terror team set foot on a journey from your land and was in constant communication over VOIP with their handler in PAKISTAN.

[haviZsultan]

I think we should not discount the various events that took place that make the Indian narrative questionable. These are 25 discrepencies with the Indian account. This article is a must read. No conspiracy theory just details of the other side, the things no one is talking about and the (strange) things that happened.

Analyzing the Mumbai Attacks: Should we just believe India?

The last thing the Indian and Pakistani governments can be blamed for is trusting each other. However these days Pakistan's government can also be blamed for not having the spine to defend National Interests.

Last month 10 terrorists held the city of Mumbai hostage for over 60 hours massacring over 170 people. Immediately after the attack several leaders of Hindu terrorist outfits such as the VHP, Shiv Sena and RSS stated that war with Pakistan is the only solution. The RSS chief even suggested all out nuclear war to cleanse the World of “Evil Pakistan”.

While this warmongering and the usual blame game continued the media in Pakistan too fell to the claims of India and accepted that Pakistan was to blame for the incident. However we seem to be forgetting that Lashkar E Toiba was also blamed for the Samjhauta Express attacks which were later known to have been conducted by Hindu Terrorists.

Now you may call me a conspiracy theorist but the last thing I believe in doing is accepting the blame for something that actually did not happen from our territory. Here I will point out the things that go against the Indian medias version of events. I will not form an opinion because I admit I do not know what happened. But I will point out that there are severe issues with the account of things as it is now.

1 Pakistan and Bangladesh based militants with the support of ISI have been blamed for almost every attack in India. Can it really be true that no attack takes place without Pakistan being blamed even though India makes 1/5th of the World Population and is known for religious violence?

2 The terrorists were talking in Hindi, their speaking style their interviews with the media proved they were from Hyderabad as was stated by them. Many Hyderabadis themselves confirmed that they really were from the region of Hyderabad seeing their speaking style and interview.

3 Hemant Karkare had implicated Colonel Prasad Purohit and a number of Indian Hindu terrorists for the Samjhauta attacks and stated that some BJP leaders could be responsible for the attacks. He was killed within the first 10 minutes of the attack. Several BJP leaders have said that "he got what he deserved" and some fanatic Hindu websites stated he was a "slave of Muslims."

4 It is speculated that Hemant Karkares widow did not take Modi’s compensation for this very reason and she knew he was trying to capitalize on the anger left after the attacks as a basis to demonize Muslims and blame Pakistan. Several people suggested she might have thought or known he was responsible for the attacks as well. Why did Karkares wife deny the compensation if she did not know that there was definitely something fishy surrounding the murder of her husband?

5 Hemant Karkare received death threats from Hindu fanatics a day before he was killed and he had exposed a group named Abhinav Bharat and had said it was involved in previous attacks against Muslims. Could this have been the cause of his death and the members of this shadowy outfit the perpetuators?

6 Indian forces inability to stop only 10 terrorists who caused so much damage casts major doubts about the Indian government description of the events. Several people are wondering how just 10 terrorists could cause such a massive scale of carnage killing over 170 civilians without being stopped.

7 The timing of the attacks could not be any better. Elections were just a few days ahead and this attack was set to give BJP a Right Wing Hindu Nationalist Party a major boost in the elections.

8 Jamaat Ud Dawa is a charity and all of Pakistan rallies in its support and surprisingly even the Hindus and Christians in Pakistan rallied for it claiming it was in no way a terrorist organization as it provided them with education and healthcare. JuD has over 180 schools, 40000 students and thousands who live on their aid and medical supplies daily. Is this really a terrorist organization or a victim of the old blame game. Shweta Mayur has specifically raised this point.

9 Why was Mr Qasab wearing a band that fanatic Hindus wear? This is the greatest blow and reveals the truth about the attacks and the attackers. The band he was wearing is a band worn by RSS terrorists.

10 Lashker E Toiba and ISI have been blamed before in the Samjhauta Express and Malegaon attacks as well & it was later proven that Purohit was actually involved for both. Over 50 Pakistanis died in the same attack and this was also blamed on the Lashker E Toiba at first. So how credible is India's version of events and what is being hidden this time? I believe this point should not be ignored at all costs.

11 The list of 20 people India gave to Pakistan include names of dead people, people not in Pakistan and people who have been in jail for years. Is this list a joke?

12 Many Indian intellectuals and think-tanks have raised the issue of the falsity of Indian governments claims and their disapproval of finger pointing saying Hindu fanatics in India have committed the attack. One of these was AR Antulay Minority Affairs Minister whose comments are the biggest blow to the Indian analysis and he said Karkare has been killed by Hindu fanatics and it should be probed.

13 Several Shiv Seniks had been talking about such an attack to "awaken hindus" across India and make them aware of the Islamic plot against them. The RSS chief said such an attack was needed to make Hindus fight against the demon (Islam according to them)

14 A strange group of Islamic terrorists would go to a bar and have several drinks and start their rampage from there. Intellectuals have been wondering what kind of Islamic terrorists come in T-shirts and jeans completely clean shaven and would start their rampage from a bar.

15 The terrorist that killed Hemant Karkare spoke Marathi according to Maharashtra Times itself. Marathi is only spoken within India. Is he really a Pakistani?

16 Several Police Officers have broken the silence and said that it was standard procedure to blame Pakistan for terrorist attacks. A Muslim Police Officer even stated that he was not sure that Ajmal Amir Qasab was a Pakistani.

17 It is claimed by the media that the attackers came from Karachi via sea. What was the coastguard doing all this time? And over 200 miles were crossed without the Indian coastguard noticing at all. If I know something I know very well India's navy is much more powerful than Pakistan's and ruined ours in the 1971 war. I would not expect negligence of the Indian Navy.

18 No one except Mr Modi the Chief Minister of Gujarat, the same person who is said to be responsible for the massacre of several thousand Muslim civilians in cold blood in Gujarat even thought about compensating the victims. What is this proving? That Hindus should follow terrorists like Modi instead of more secular Hindu parliamentarians because he is the only one who cares about terrorism?

19 The events were changed several times and several conflicting statements were made by different sources. First Mauritius ID cards were found with the terrorists, then they were not. The contradictory statements by different government officials and investigators cast a shadowy image to this situation.

20 Conveniently the same terrorist caught on tape was the one who was captured. Not only that but conveniently this same terrorist seems to be walking casually at the train station with an Ak47 in his hands and does not notice someone with a mobile camera taking pictures of him in what seems to be an empty place.

21 The terrorists definitely knew the city inside out. They were well aware of the locations to strike and were so well acquainted with the city that they knew every corner. Even many Indians themselves did not know about the Jewish community center. Several sources have claimed that they had been living in Mumbai for at least a year to know the city so well. Were they Indian or Pakistani?

22 Why would the terrorists call their alleged leader Hafiz Mohammed Saeed through VOIP in the middle of the fight when Indian commandos were pounding at the hotel? Did the terrorists really want themselves to be traced back to where they actually came from and came with all preparation, passports and documents to prove they were Pakistani?

23 Several Indian media circles even went as far as to claim that the attack was the handiwork of ISI. Now what kind of intelligence agency would launch an attack that could actually be traced right back to itself? It seems that “Pakistan’s Powerful Spy Agency” is more often than not a victim of the failures of others.

24 India brought the controversial Prevention of Terrorism Act back (It had been repealed in 2004 when the Congress came to power) after the attack which allowed any person to be arrested on the charge of fomenting terrorism without adequate proof. It was against the rights of every human being. It was quite convenient that the act was brought up again.

25 The Malegaon blasts case was forgotten where Sadhvi Pragya and Colonel Purohit were said to have taken part in the blasts. It pushed both the cases to the sidelines.

Analyzing the Mumbai Attacks: Should we just believe India?

These things should be considered. How did Karkare get killed. What about Samjhauta Express where Lashker e toiba was blamed and it turned out to be local Indian outfits involved (Purohit and Sadhvi Pragya). Either way whoever is involved should be punished. But I don't think a country should be framed to eliminate the chance of Hindu-Muslim riots within India itself.

[ashokdeiva]

I think we should not discount the various events that took place that make the Indian narrative questionable. These are 25 discrepencies with the Indian account. This article is a must read. No conspiracy theory just details of the other side, the things no one is talking about and the (strange) things that happened.



Analyzing the Mumbai Attacks: Should we just believe India?

These things should be considered. How did Karkare get killed. What about Samjhauta Express where Lashker e toiba was blamed and it turned out to be local Indian outfits involved (Purohit and Sadhvi Pragya). Either way whoever is involved should be punished. But I don't think a country should be framed to eliminate the chance of Hindu-Muslim riots within India itself.

Karkare is a national hero who was killed by the bullet that came from one of the terrorist that PAKISTAN exported to INDIA.
and SAMJAOTH EXPRESS case the initial blame was based on prejudice and our forces did not stop their investigation based in prejudice and hence the aprehension of the true culprit behind the attack and you guys morally lack behind INDIAN investigation system in all paramenters and all scales. To my opinion, you guys do not have what it takes to stand up and say "HEY we made a mistake, we will try to do what is necessary to undo our past by making sure that mistakes of the PAST are not repeated"

[caroline100]

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whyyyyyyyyyyyy?