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    Better to open the link below to see more interactive links embedded in the article.

    The CIA wanted an Iraq- and Afghanistan-type government in Pakistan, without firing a bullet.

    AHMED QURAISHI | Wednesday | 30 May 2012 | The News International
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    The CIA contingent in Afghanistan has a clear role in grooming and supporting terrorism and insurgency inside Pakistan. This role started immediately after seizing Afghanistan in 2002. The idea was to create Islamic groups that attack and kill enough Pakistanis to build domestic pressure to act against neutral groups such as Afghan Taliban and the pro-Kashmir activists.

    It was one way of nudging the Pakistani military into full acquiescence beyond a simple cooperation in America’s war, including boots on the ground. The CIA wanted to decide Pakistan’s foreign policy, how the international dispute on Kashmir should be resolved, India’s regional role, and the roles of Pakistani military and intelligence. It wanted a say in Pakistani politics and recruit enablers in Pakistani media. At some point, the lines blurred between US military and CIA as the two pursued an agenda in Pakistan similar to what they did in South America in the eighties. This was a clear violation of the post-9/11 UN mandate in Afghanistan.

    Dr. Shakil Afridi is not the only agent the CIA cultivated in Pakistan [who, by the way, deserves a second harsh sentence for giving fake polio vaccines to Pakistani children, knowing he endangered the lives of possibly tens or more of our kids in exchange for a few thousand dollars.]

    The CIA brought the Indian intelligence service to Afghanistan to help deal with Pakistan.

    The Pakistani Taliban, or TTP, a mass murderer of thousands of Pakistanis, was launched by a Pakistani tribesman recruited by CIA and the Indian spy service while in US custody for two years. He was an unknown foot soldier for the Afghan Taliban arrested in 2001. But after spending two years with the Americans, he returned to Pakistan as the commander of a new group called Pakistani Taliban, with enough money and weapons to raise a small army, using tribal contacts. He was released from American custody but was not handed over to Pakistan. His first act of jihad after entering Pakistan and forming the so-called Pakistani Taliban was to kidnap and kill Chinese engineers. Millions of American dollars were pumped into the tribal belt to ensure its rebellion against Pakistan. The Pakistani Taliban’s supplies continue to come from Afghanistan. The Afghan Taliban denies any link to this group.

    The idea behind TTP was simple: If Pakistan can use religious proxies in Afghanistan and Kashmir, so can others. Trained killers in the Pakistani Taliban introduced suicide bombings into Pakistan sometime in 2006, mostly targeting Pakistani cities. In countless instances, young Pakistani boys were told they were going to kill American soldiers inside Pakistan but were surprised to see their targets were ordinary Pakistanis.

    In July 2008, in a meeting in Rawalpindi during a secret visit by Admiral Mike Mullen and then CIA deputy director Stephen Kappes, senior Pakistani military officers accused CIA of protecting Pakistani Taliban.

    Again, in November 2009, then ISI chief Ahmed Shuja Pasha confronted his CIA counterpart Leon E. Panetta with several pieces of evidence that showed links between CIA and anti-Pakistan terrorists. A detailed report published by a Pakistani newspaper provided a glimpse into that meeting. Here is an excerpt:

    “After putting up with so much for so long, the prime intelligence agency of [Pakistan] ultimately confronted the CIA Director Leon E. Panetta with some highly classified and irrefutable evidence. Panetta was startled when Director-General ISI, General Ahmad Shuja Pasha, a no-nonsense General, placed the facts before him in Islamabad on November 20, 2009.”

    On these pages, retired Vice Admiral Taj Khattak has accused the US military of turning an Afghan province into a base for TTP terrorists to plan and launch attacks inside Pakistan. The official American protection accorded to the leaders of BLA terrorist group active in Balochistan is also well documented.

    Another evidence of CIA’s breach of Pakistani borders came on the last day of 2009 when a Jordanian agent working for CIA blew himself up and killed his American handlers. The case confirmed how CIA had invited spy services from several countries to join its illegal operations inside Pakistan.

    Afghanistan today is an intelligence black hole, used by spy services from several countries for multiple strategic purposes. This poses a security challenge not just to Pakistan but also to China and Russia.

    Pakistan has a solid case against CIA and US military. No wonder these two are doing everything they can to poison Pakistani-American ties.


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    Ahh good old AHMED QURAISHI... had not seen his bull$hit in sometime now.. where is he hiding nowadays...

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    Sounds like an excuse as to why Pakistan have so many terrorists operating in the country. People traveling all around the world to get to Pakistan for training. Similar to Afghanistan prior to 9/11.

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    Ahmed Qureshi.

    Didn't read beyond that.

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    Yeah anyone pro-Pakistan, why would even bother to read.
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    I have just joined and this is one of the first post that I read, I must congratulate Mr Ahmed Qureshi. He has an awesome ability of writing fiction. Tom Clancy would appear pale in front of him. While I may not get any information out of it I would still read Mr Qureshi because he is interesting in funny sort of way. Would keep me entertained.
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    AHMED QURAISHI!!! I have nothing more to say.

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    Excellent good thoughtful article that's why some non Pakistanis on here do not like it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oldman1 View Post
    Sounds like an excuse as to why Pakistan have so many terrorists operating in the country. People traveling all around the world to get to Pakistan for training. Similar to Afghanistan prior to 9/11.
    Which Pakistan?
    Since sept.,11 we had two govts. completely anti to each other.

    And, why don't you help Pakistan, in identifying the those training camps?

    Wait, i know one Brahmdagh Bugti!!! now be a good spirit and shoot this asshole with your drone or stop this baseless rehtoric.... we are the target of terrorism and you and indians are co-sponsors of various unknown so called Islamic organisations.

    You failed to declare TTP a terrorist organisation... how can you expect to work together with Pakistan,, while appreciating the murderers of Pakistanis on other hand?

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    Do you know the author of this "thoughtful" article has claimed Iran has agreed to provide supply line to NATO for Afghanistan?

    Quote Originally Posted by Aryan_B View Post
    Excellent good thoughtful article that's why some non Pakistanis on here do not like it.

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    What really amusing is that people like the author of the article, dream up conspiracy theories on the lines of "The World is out to get Pakistan" and then declare victory saying "Pakistan is still here, so the world was unsuccessful in defeating Pakistan"

    reminds me of Don Quixort and the windmills

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    Quote Originally Posted by airmarshal View Post
    Better to open the link below to see more interactive links embedded in the article.

    The CIA wanted an Iraq- and Afghanistan-type government in Pakistan, without firing a bullet.

    AHMED QURAISHI | Wednesday | 30 May 2012 | The News International
    PakNationalists.net

    The CIA contingent in Afghanistan has a clear role in grooming and supporting terrorism and insurgency inside Pakistan. This role started immediately after seizing Afghanistan in 2002. The idea was to create Islamic groups that attack and kill enough Pakistanis to build domestic pressure to act against neutral groups such as Afghan Taliban and the pro-Kashmir activists.

    It was one way of nudging the Pakistani military into full acquiescence beyond a simple cooperation in America’s war, including boots on the ground. The CIA wanted to decide Pakistan’s foreign policy, how the international dispute on Kashmir should be resolved, India’s regional role, and the roles of Pakistani military and intelligence. It wanted a say in Pakistani politics and recruit enablers in Pakistani media. At some point, the lines blurred between US military and CIA as the two pursued an agenda in Pakistan similar to what they did in South America in the eighties. This was a clear violation of the post-9/11 UN mandate in Afghanistan.

    Dr. Shakil Afridi is not the only agent the CIA cultivated in Pakistan [who, by the way, deserves a second harsh sentence for giving fake polio vaccines to Pakistani children, knowing he endangered the lives of possibly tens or more of our kids in exchange for a few thousand dollars.]

    The CIA brought the Indian intelligence service to Afghanistan to help deal with Pakistan.

    The Pakistani Taliban, or TTP, a mass murderer of thousands of Pakistanis, was launched by a Pakistani tribesman recruited by CIA and the Indian spy service while in US custody for two years. He was an unknown foot soldier for the Afghan Taliban arrested in 2001. But after spending two years with the Americans, he returned to Pakistan as the commander of a new group called Pakistani Taliban, with enough money and weapons to raise a small army, using tribal contacts. He was released from American custody but was not handed over to Pakistan. His first act of jihad after entering Pakistan and forming the so-called Pakistani Taliban was to kidnap and kill Chinese engineers. Millions of American dollars were pumped into the tribal belt to ensure its rebellion against Pakistan. The Pakistani Taliban’s supplies continue to come from Afghanistan. The Afghan Taliban denies any link to this group.

    The idea behind TTP was simple: If Pakistan can use religious proxies in Afghanistan and Kashmir, so can others. Trained killers in the Pakistani Taliban introduced suicide bombings into Pakistan sometime in 2006, mostly targeting Pakistani cities. In countless instances, young Pakistani boys were told they were going to kill American soldiers inside Pakistan but were surprised to see their targets were ordinary Pakistanis.

    In July 2008, in a meeting in Rawalpindi during a secret visit by Admiral Mike Mullen and then CIA deputy director Stephen Kappes, senior Pakistani military officers accused CIA of protecting Pakistani Taliban.

    Again, in November 2009, then ISI chief Ahmed Shuja Pasha confronted his CIA counterpart Leon E. Panetta with several pieces of evidence that showed links between CIA and anti-Pakistan terrorists. A detailed report published by a Pakistani newspaper provided a glimpse into that meeting. Here is an excerpt:

    “After putting up with so much for so long, the prime intelligence agency of [Pakistan] ultimately confronted the CIA Director Leon E. Panetta with some highly classified and irrefutable evidence. Panetta was startled when Director-General ISI, General Ahmad Shuja Pasha, a no-nonsense General, placed the facts before him in Islamabad on November 20, 2009.”

    On these pages, retired Vice Admiral Taj Khattak has accused the US military of turning an Afghan province into a base for TTP terrorists to plan and launch attacks inside Pakistan. The official American protection accorded to the leaders of BLA terrorist group active in Balochistan is also well documented.

    Another evidence of CIA’s breach of Pakistani borders came on the last day of 2009 when a Jordanian agent working for CIA blew himself up and killed his American handlers. The case confirmed how CIA had invited spy services from several countries to join its illegal operations inside Pakistan.

    Afghanistan today is an intelligence black hole, used by spy services from several countries for multiple strategic purposes. This poses a security challenge not just to Pakistan but also to China and Russia.

    Pakistan has a solid case against CIA and US military. No wonder these two are doing everything they can to poison Pakistani-American ties.


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    All well said but we can't ignore the role of proxy regime hurting Pakistan from within.

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    at this time we have gov 50% like afg-iraq

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    Lal Masjid terrorists were all CIA agents.

    Terrorists hiding in NW who kill NATO soldiers are also CIA agents.

    What a load of cr@p from the conspiracy theorist Ahmad Qureshi.


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    Quote Originally Posted by clmeta View Post
    Do you know the author of this "thoughtful" article has claimed Iran has agreed to provide supply line to NATO for Afghanistan?
    Can you provide some evidence? I emailed Mr Quraishi and asked him this question..he says "I never said, written or mentioned that Iran has agreed to give NATO or US a supply line".

    You can hate this or other Pakistanis all you want but please do not lie.


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