Britain says Pakistan is hiding Taliban chief

[Nasir]

People who are caught are claiming that Pakistani ISI trained these Taliban fighters, it is true, but not always true. Elements are trying to give trouble to Pakistani government and they are getting some what succeded. Pakistan trained Taliban long ago because United States wanted Taliban to be created as a force to deal with the Soviet Union, but it is not traning them anymore, and typically is now against it.

Britain says Pakistan is hiding Taliban chief
Christina Lamb, Kabul


THE British general commanding Nato troops in Afghanistan is to confront Pakistan’s president over his country’s support for the Taliban.
Among the evidence amassed is the address of the Taliban’s leader in a Pakistani city.

NI_MPU('middle');Lieutenant-General David Richards will fly to Islamabad tomorrow to try to persuade Pervez Musharraf to rein in his military intelligence service, which Richards believes is training Taliban fighters to attack British troops. He will request that key Taliban leaders living in Pakistan be arrested.

The evidence compiled by American, Nato and Afghan intelligence includes satellite pictures and videos of training camps for Taliban soldiers and suicide bombers inside Pakistan.

Captured Taliban fighters and failed suicide bombers have confirmed that they were trained by the Pakistani intelligence service, known as the ISI. The information includes an address in Quetta where Mullah Omar, the Taliban leader, is said to live.

Musharraf had publicly acknowledged “a Taliban problem on the Pakistan side of the border”, said Richards. “Undoubtedly something has got to happen,” he added.

“We’ve got to accept that the Pakistan government is not omnipotent and it isn’t easy but it has to be done and we’re working very hard on it. I’m very confident that the Pakistan government’s intent is clear and they will be delivering on it.”

The initiative emerged as the commander of British forces in Afghanistan, Brigadier Ed Butler, called for more troop-carrying helicopters. He was responding to a promise by Tony Blair that the forces could have whatever extra resources they needed. But a defence source said it was difficult to see where new British transport helicopters could be found.

Political leaders have been reluctant to put pressure on Musharraf for fear of destabilising a nuclear-armed country in which Islamic fundamentalists are strong.

This week’s intervention comes at a sensitive time for Blair after the ISI apparently helped avert the alleged planned bombing of transatlantic airliners flying from Heathrow. But the Taliban’s re-emergence has coincided with mounting evidence of ISI involvement, prompting frustration in Afghanistan, where 30 British servicemen have been killed.

“I feel real vitriol seeing our boys dying because of Pakistan,” said one British officer.
A senior US commander added: “We just can’t ignore it any more. Musharraf’s got to prove which side he is on.”

Hamid Karzai, the president of Afghanistan, has repeatedly complained of Pakistan’s role in providing a haven for Taliban fighters, saying they have openly run camps in Karachi and Quetta. “There is an open campaign by Pakistan against Afghanistan and the presence of coalition troops here,” he said.

In Washington two weeks ago Karzai handed Pakistan the names and addresses of alleged handlers of suicide bombers using a camp near Peshawar that had been infiltrated by an Afghan informer. Last Wednesday a rubbish bag was discovered in the camp containing his body.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article...393838,00.html

Here is some stupid statement by a British Officer.

“I feel real vitriol seeing our boys dying because of Pakistan,” said one British officer.

First of all, you dont need to be in Afghanistan, cause it is not your war!

Second, your boys are dying because your in a war, Pakistan is not training or sending any soldiers to kill your boys!

[JB 007]

The evidence compiled by American, Nato and Afghan intelligence includes satellite pictures and videos of training camps for Taliban soldiers and suicide bombers inside Pakistan.

Captured Taliban fighters and failed suicide bombers have confirmed that they were trained by the Pakistani intelligence service, known as the ISI. The information includes an address in Quetta where Mullah Omar, the Taliban leader, is said to live.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article...393838,00.html

[Nasir]

Training camps in Pakistan? May be, but they should be removed. Pakistan is NOT supporting training camps.

I dont think Pakistani government is stupid enough to allow those training camps.

[Asim Aquil]

pictures that will never be released and just talked about.

[WebMaster]

I think so too. Blaming is the only game, Karzai government has adopted since his government cannot really control the nation. Afghanistan will always remain an unstable nation without good relations with Pakistan. Period.

[JB 007]

Originally Posted by WebMaster

I think so too. Blaming is the only game, Karzai government has adopted since his government cannot really control the nation. Afghanistan will always remain an unstable nation without good relations with Pakistan. Period.

just want to know, is this a advise or a warning to Afghanistan?

[waz]

Captured Taliban fighters and failed suicide bombers have confirmed that they were trained by the Pakistani intelligence service, known as the ISI. The information includes an address in Quetta where Mullah Omar, the Taliban leader, is said to live.

So here is the evidence, some captured guys who "confessed" [electric shocks usually bring on these honest confessions] that ISI trained them. If anyone knows the demeanour of these individuals they will tell you that they would rather die than talk. Often if they fail in their mission they usually blow themselves up with explosive but here we have the strange phoneme of them confessing all their sins....Oh and we also have the flat number of Mullah Omar as well.

No doubt the Afghan intelligence agency provided this to the British…The funny thing is that British officers were angry at the fact their men were left to defend remote government outposts in the Pushtoon heartland which the “Afghan army” should be doing. After taking lots of casualties now the “government” has handed over information to the Brits saying this is why it’s happening well no that’s not the reason why it’s happening. There is also the recent suicide bomber caught in Kabul who had enough explosives to blow many city blocks up. When asked where he had got his supplies from he simply replied “the arms bazaars of Afghanistan and people around Kabul” he was quickly told to shut up and taken away…..

[Neo]

Originally Posted by JB 007

just want to know, is this a advise or a warning to Afghanistan?

Simply the truth.
Its up to them what to do with it.

[JB 007]

Originally Posted by Neo

Simply the truth.
Its up to them what to do with it.

ok then. please clear it again, what afghanistan would do for having better relation with pakistan? they not doing any nuke test, not attacking on pakistan, what pakistan wants from them. i mean how will you define better relationship from their side. how they will prove it? and most important thing, what will be the result if they don’t do what pakistan want from them?

[Mark Sien]

Pakistan has been on the receiving end of the WOT; the terrorist attacks in its cities, its troops being attacked just as daily as NATO/ISAF in Afghanistan, etc. If Britain or whoever accuses us can give us some satellite images or intelligence - then I'm certain the Pak Army/forces would act on it. But simply blaming and what not isn't going to help anyone.

[Bull]

Originally Posted by Asim Aquil

pictures that will never be released and just talked about.

Pictures where relased previously.Nothing happened.Nothing will happen.

That state is weak and can do things only at a speed which suites it.If mushraff moves faster he will pay with his life.

[JB 007]

Originally Posted by Mark Sien

Pakistan has been on the receiving end of the WOT; the terrorist attacks in its cities, its troops being attacked just as daily as NATO/ISAF in Afghanistan, etc.

even if pakistan has been receiving terrorist attacks in her cities from Afghanistan side, certainly it wasn’t from Karjai government or from NATO side. if few groups are involved in terrorists attacks on pakistani cities, let’s assume, then they are certainly enemy of both Karjai government and pakistan, isn’t it? Karjai government of Afghanistan is democratically elected and trying to do good for Afghani, and trying to take funds from western countries for the good of Afghani. there is no doubt that NATO or Karjai government is not sponsoring terrorism in pakistani cities, if there is any. then why pakistani nationals are doing suicide bombing and ISI of Pakistan is training those Talibanies, (because most of those Jihadi or Talibanies were infact born in pakistan). and also even if Afghani government doesn’t like pakistan, why pakistan would try to unstable them until they are not doing any wrong with pakistan?

If Britain or whoever accuses us can give us some satellite images or intelligence - then I'm certain the Pak Army/forces would act on it. But simply blaming and what not isn't going to help anyone

This is a good approach.