Edit: Cemcik after getting owned several times you better leave this forum.
Kimse seni burada birdaha adam yerine koymaz zaten, en iyisi kaybol buradan.
Trans: No one in here will take you seriously from now on, you better leave before making a bigger clown of yourself.
Last edited by Zulkarneyn; 05-02-2012 at 03:38 AM.
Last edited by Bubblegum Crisis; 05-02-2012 at 04:08 AM.
Cem_ and Zulkarneyn, this is a thread about Turkey and Iraq, and not Zulkarneyn vs. Cem_
I know Cem_ has been very harsh with his words and cursings, and it's quite disgusting words he directed to especially Zulkarneyn, but this isn't the place to solve that issue. Take it on private or something.
To the topic, Maliki is just a dog of US. US didn't make an intervention to kill Saddam only, or to steal some oil, it's more political than economical, having a dog (Maliki) and a mastermind (Israel) in ME is a quite good combination.
Correction, Syria is a Sunni Islamic country ruled by a population of the country which is so small that you wouldn't think it'd be possible for them to rule the 74% of Sunni Muslims + other religions. But, it's the ruling class who have all the guns and weapons.Wrong. What is happening here is some people getting jealous over two Islamic Shia nations coming closer.
Shia ruling Sunni has been very common here, but this is not the cause of the protests currently going on in Syria. Pakistan was ruled by a female Shia leader (Benazir Bhutto) twice, and Zaradri (current present), and the founder himself was Shia (a Shia, dragged millions of Sunni Muslims to build Pakistan).
The reason why the Syrian people are protesting is because they want freedom from the government. Syria's secular, nationalist government has for decades maintained stability and a safe, friendly, welcoming environment for foreign tourists, but it has also been an ally of the Soviet Union (Russia today) and the Islamic Regime of Iran;
The benefits of Iran was that it was a huge thorn in the side of Israel and Western countries which support Israel, because it supports Hamas in Palestine and Hezbollah in Lebanon, two terrorist groups constantly threatening Israel. But after the proven events, it has been shown that Assad is worse than the so called 'western dilemma' himself. Hitler never killed Germans. Assad kills Syrians.
So the West is using this opportunity (along with Israel) to try and overthrow the Syrian government. In order to do this, they are supporting some Islamist terrorists in Syria, who hate their government because it is secular. But the majority of the protesters are not terrorists.
Western governments have given weapons to some of these "freedom fighters". Russia and China are supporting Bashar al-Assad's government, and warning Western countries not to invade Syria like they invaded Libya.
If Assad were smart, he would've made a deal with Western countries and Israel: Syria will stop supporting Hamas and Hezbollah, will recognize the state of Israel, and assume a friendly posture toward it; in return, Israel would return the Golan Heights, which they took from Syria after Syria attacked Israel in a previous war (1967?), and more importantly, would integrate Syria into the international economy and allow Syria to develop its economy the same way Asian countries developed theirs - by manufacturing and exporting products to the world.
Unfortunately, Assad is not so smart, so he will lose, just like other Arab idiots did - Mubarak of Egypt, Saddam etc.
Of course, this doesn't mean anyone else will win. Far from it. Things will be a lot worse.
The West is just as stupid as these secular Arab leaders - it should've learned a lesson 33 years ago when they did the same thing to Iran - they got rid of the secular, very progressive, modernizing and pro-West Shah (King) of Iran, because he wasn't a total puppet like the West wanted him to be, and had some minor disagreements with the West, like the price of oil (he wanted a fair price for Iran's oil so he could develop his country and improve the standard of living of his people faster), and replaced him with Islamist terrorists (Ayatollah Khomeini and his gang of murderous mullah thugs). That has been a total nightmare for the Iranian people and nation, and also for Israel and the West.
Egypt, Libya and Syria are going to need good decisions after these protests.
Last edited by RayKalm; 05-02-2012 at 04:24 AM.
I agree. He thinks he's talking with logic and facts, when instead all he does is accuse others of being a shia hater.
Funny, he's so pro-Iran that you may actually think that he's Iranian himself. (Note - I am not relating Iran to Shia here, but rather relating S-19's posts which are always pro Iran).
In an India vs. Pakistan thread he had a post warning us against fighting each other, even though all of his own posts are either pro-Shia or anti-Arab.
Notice that he always thanks Iranian members on all that they say.
Okay, I agree with 90% of what you said except that Libya, Egypt and Syria having the same fate. I think Libya would be eventually divided with NATO retaining influence on the eastern part because of oil and the planned invasion of Egypt.
Egypt's islamist parties would win the elections and would be ruled by an extremist Salafi/wahabi government
As for Syria, I had accurate information that NATO would go for external military intervention in last december. They did not do so because Russia took necessary countermeasures. Though you may not agree, I have reasons to believe eventually this regime would survive.
LOL, cool down. That was a tease. You don't start hating your brother when he teases you.Well, I didn't think you would go there. Quite ironically, you're the same guy who first said he was Kazakh, then Russian, then started defending Iran so much as to make some think that you yourself was an Iranian. Anyway, on to the topic.
No, i'm not officially Iranian nor kazakh but Russian. Cheers.
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