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    Turkey, with help from Germany, to become 'submarine manufacturer'

    Turkey, with help from Germany, to become 'submarine manufacturer'

    ANKARA — Turkey has launched a project to produce an advanced naval submarine.
    Turkey's Defense Ministry and Navy have been working with Germany in the coproduction of four electric-diesel submarines. The coproduction effort has taken place with Germany's ThyssenKrupp for the Type 214 submarine.

    "This is a huge project that will make Turkey into a submarine manufacturer," an official said.

    The submarine project was expected to cost about $2.5 billion. Officials said the first platform could be delivered to the Navy in 2015.

    The Navy has been building three of the submarines in Turkey. Officials said Turkey would also help design electronic subsystems for the underwater platforms.

    Turkey has been engaged in several major naval projects. One called for the assembly of up to 11 small frigates in a project estimated at $2 billion
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    Yep 6 Type 214s. To replace our 6 Type 209/1200s. AIP stuff will be built and shipped in kits to Turkey(Since that is top secret) and we will be doing our own C4I,electronic and weapons systems. Work share will be more then 80% for the Turkish side of the deal which will be great.

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    Default Re: Turkey, with help from Germany, to become 'submarine manufacturer'

    Pakistan navy needs these boats too , lets see if Turkey can get it done.

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    So now Pakistan can get competiting tech from Germany via Turkey rather than begging the french or trying to circumvent German export control laws.
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    More About U-214TN Program

    It is the first time Turkish industry is going to manufacture thanks to Germany technology;

    -Manufacture a submarines vertically
    -Manufacturing head section of submarines including torpedo room in Golcuk
    -Producing all submarine body in Turkey
    -All rights of Command-Control center of submarine with source-codes, new system integrations rights in future, new Turkish versions will belong to Havelsan...
    -The cast section of submarines will be produced in Turkey
    -All another methalic sections, auxiliary steel parts will also be produced by private firms of Turkey

    ---------- Post added at 12:00 PM ---------- Previous post was at 12:00 PM ----------

    Aselsan
    -The devices and electronical equipments
    -Radar electronic systems will be Aselsani ones (Ares-2NS)
    -Submarine information delivery system will be developed by Aselsan
    -X band satellites communication systems and all another communication units will be developed by Aselsan...

    ---------- Post added at 12:00 PM ---------- Previous post was at 12:00 PM ----------

    Netas
    -Warfare keying systems will be developed by Netas

    ---------- Post added at 12:01 PM ---------- Previous post was at 12:00 PM ----------

    Havelsan
    -Silulators, educations, Tests, Assessments of performance, Management information of command-control systems of U-214TN's will belong to Havelsan until all active lifes of submarines...
    -Land based test center-institue construction to test new variants of command-comtrol system to integrate future Turkish weapons will be applied by Havelsan
    -Algoritma developments, threat banks and all another things about software are belong to Havelsan...
    -New sensor-systems integration missions, underwater tactic simulator development will belong to Havelsan

    ---------- Post added at 12:01 PM ---------- Previous post was at 12:01 PM ----------

    STM
    -Design of U-214 TN
    -Engineering and system integrations
    -18000 different system integration
    -Composite materials production
    -Submarine blocks production
    -Shipyard and battery institues and developments
    -Logistic support

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    Tubitak Mam
    -Underwater telephones
    -Battery watch systems and centeral air consantration watch systems

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    Ayesas
    -Multi function consols design, development, electronic cards, cabinets, electromagnetic assembly, weapon consols, weapon control units development and tests...
    -The consols developed for U-214TN will be exported to 3th countries....

    ---------- Post added at 12:02 PM ---------- Previous post was at 12:02 PM ----------

    Milsoft
    -6 item multi link system
    -1 item multi link land based test institue-integration
    -Link-11 and Link-22 data transportations

    ---------- Post added at 12:03 PM ---------- Previous post was at 12:02 PM ----------

    Koc Bilgi
    -Indigenous diver detection system
    -Torpedo jamming anddefence systems
    -Fat/Hat/Sat phrases
    -Indigenous detection, classification and Localisation systems
    -Static and Movement effectors

    ---------- Post added at 12:05 PM ---------- Previous post was at 12:02 PM ----------

    Roketsan-Tubitak-Aselsan
    -Heavy Weight Torpedos called AKYA


    National contribution will be around "%81"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Black Blood View Post
    Pakistan navy needs these boats too , lets see if Turkey can get it done.
    I think we already spend a huge amount on Subs. And those subs are quite good. The latest also had AIP. Now going for everything which comes new is not a good strategy.

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    Imagine a JF-17 deal for turkey in exchange for a turkish sub deal for Pakistan

    Not saying that Turkey won't get JF-17s anyway
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jigs View Post
    Yep 6 Type 214s. To replace our 6 Type 209/1200s. AIP stuff will be built and shipped in kits to Turkey(Since that is top secret) and we will be doing our own C4I,electronic and weapons systems. Work share will be more then 80% for the Turkish side of the deal which will be great.
    So we are only importing AIP stuff. Anything else ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mjnaushad View Post
    I think we already spend a huge amount on Subs. And those subs are quite good. The latest also had AIP. Now going for everything which comes new is not a good strategy.
    All Agostas are getting AIP MESMA!

    Also Pak Navy wants 7 new Subs!
    U-214,Marlyn are main competetors PN is also looking for chinese subs... Few reports even suggested tht PN was interested in leasing chinese nuclear sub..
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    Quote Originally Posted by avrasya View Post
    So we are only importing AIP stuff. Anything else ?
    That is it. Just the AIP stuff will be coming in. Germans might come in for other assistance(building know how) but systems will be designed and installed by turkey.

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    Its good news for Turkey forsure... but Germany will have to ok any deal done between Turkey and a buyer .

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    Quote Originally Posted by TOPGUN View Post
    Its good news for Turkey forsure... but Germany will have to ok any deal done between Turkey and a buyer .
    This specific deal i believe turkey is not looking to export on. Rather get knowledge on sub building and replace our older subs.

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    lol only if turkey could make somthing like the russian typoon submarine...
    now that would be awsome but would never happen anytime soon :(

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jigs View Post
    That is it. Just the AIP stuff will be coming in. Germans might come in for other assistance(building know how) but systems will be designed and installed by turkey.
    WOW. It is hard to believe that Germans transferring know how. Good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yusa40 View Post
    lol only if turkey could make somthing like the russian typoon submarine...
    now that would be awsome but would never happen anytime soon :(
    What for? Even Russia itself does not need these Typhoons anymore. 214 is ideal sub for country like Turkey.


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