Brazil to provide 100 missiles to Pakistan

[Growler]

Originally Posted by RS4

Of the topic i know but do any of you know which PGM system the PAF will go for? JDAM will only equip blk 52 F16S. What about FC20 and JF17, will they be fitted with a chinese targeting pod or something western like the ATLIS2?

i recomend you to go through IDEAS-2008 pictures, "SKY BOLT" has got them all for us. alot of PGM, LGB, long range bombs, AGM were displayed which were of PAF interests. meanwhile, we have already tested H-2 and H-4 long range glide bombs with 60-100 km range.

[hj786]

Originally Posted by Tikuna

Get ready for the new purchase of Pakistan!
Astros II
soon!

Astros II MLRS - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Originally Posted by Wikipedia

The ASTROS II artillery system entered service with the Brazilian Army in 1983.

In the 1980s, Avibrás sold an estimated sixty-six Astros II artillery systems to Iraq. Iraq also built the Sajil-60 which is a license-built version of the Brazilian SS-60. Sixty Astros II were sold to Saudi Arabia and an unspecified number sold to Bahrain and Qatar. Total sales of the Astros II between 1982 and 1987 reached US$1 billion.[2] This fact made the Astros II multiple rocket launcher the most profitable weapon produced by Avibrás....

...in the first Gulf War in 1991, the Astros II was successfully used by Saudi Arabia against Iraq. Years later, the Astros II system helped Angola to defeat the UNITA.

If your news is true Tikuna, P.A. is inducting a combat-proven rocket artillery system with possibility for license production or transfer of technology so Pakistan can build it themselves.
Because the system is not a brand new system, I think there will be transfer of technology, just like with the MAR-1 missile.

[Mark Sien]

Originally Posted by RS4

Of the topic i know but do any of you know which PGM system the PAF will go for? JDAM will only equip blk 52 F16S. What about FC20 and JF17, will they be fitted with a chinese targeting pod or something western like the ATLIS2?

Pakistan will mostly rely on locally produced PGMs, in fact it is developing a range of precision-guided munitions with Turkey. Like PC mentioned, we may also see other types of weapon-systems...for example Sagem of France offered the AASM.

On another note, I hope one day Pakistan works with Brazil & South Africa on the A-Darter and Umkhonto-R programs. Perhaps even acquire the Embraer C-390 in the future.

[zavis2003]

AGM-88 HARM
The AGM-88 HARM missile was developed as a successor to early ARMs such as the AGM-
45 Shrike
Shrike was used during the Vietnam War.
The missile was fitted to the US Air Force
F-4G Wild Weasel aircraft and F 4 before they were withdrawn from service in the early 1990s.
Certain versions of the F-16 now discharge this role, and Navy F/A-18s are also capable of
Successfully targetin with the missile
The radar crossection of target is provided to missile to make it deadly one
After lockon Target with the missile seeker and, after launch, it used fadio frequency enegy to destroy it with homing, and destroying it with a high-explosive (HE) direct
fragmentation warhead.
EMCON are usied for targeting

Refrences
www.eurofighter-starsteak.net

Fulghum, D.A. (2000) New F-22 radar unveils future. Aviation Week and Space Technology, 7 February.
Kopp, C. (1994)
MIL-STD-1760D (2003) Interface standard for aircraft/store electrical interfaces, 1 August.


Well y pakistan is not going for HARM???????????????????

[arsalanaslam123]

Anti-radiation missiles” are designed to find, home in on, and destroy enemy air defense radars; they are often carried by specialist aircraft that accompany air strikes to perform the SEAD (Suppression of Enemy Air Defenses) mission. In December 2008, Brazil’s government approved a $108 million April 2008 contract with Pakistan for 100 of Mectron’s MAR-1 anti-radiation missiles. DID sources add that the deal needed the Brazilian government’s loan guarantee to become effective.

In contrast with other Mectron Engenharia missiles, such as the MAA-1 SRAAM or the forthcoming A-Darter partnership, Mectron appears to be working hard to avoid publicity for the MAR-1. The firm would not even acknowledge the missile’s existence for many years, and details remain sketchy. Pictures like this one show a MAR-1 that appears to be similar in size to counterparts like Raytheon’s AGM-88 HARM, and has a reported range of 25 km when launched from an altitude of about 33,000 feet/ 10 km. Testing appears to have ended, and it will equip Brazil’s upgraded AMX and F-5BR aircraft once it is accepted into service.

The recent massacre perpetrated in Mumbai, India has complicated Brazil’s approval announcement. As attention is drawn to the role Pakistan’s intelligence agency has played in this and other attacks, Brazil’s Defense Minister Nelson Jobim has been forced to respond: “Brazil negotiates with Pakistan, not with Pakistani terrorists… To cancel this deal would be to attribute terrorist activities to the Pakistani government.”

Brazil’s friends in India are already doing that, of course. On the other hand, Brazil needs export customers in order to achieve its national goal of re-building its defense industries. Jobim has been quoted as saying that the deal will allow Mectron to increase its production from 1 missile per month to 5 missiles. A sale to Pakistan, followed by integration into a platform like the Pakistani-Chinese JF-17 lightweight fighter, could also open up a number of new markets for Mectron. Defesa Brazil [Portuguese] | AFP via The Straits Times | Defense News re: PAF confirms sale | Jane’s re: MAR-1 | Seguranca & Defesa article, incl. details re: MAR-1 [English].

Brazil to Sell MAR-1 SEAD Missiles to Pakistan

[Tikuna]

Hello everyone,

There is a great chance of the deal was canceled. It would be a pity.
Reason? I need not mention his name.

Regards to all

[Black Blood]

If the deal is canceled than i reckon Pak should work hard to build this kind of weapon indigenously

[azfar]

which platform will be used for it? f-16, jf-17?

[Mercenary]

ONLINE - International News Network

Delivery of 100 missiles from Brazil to start this year

ISLAMABAD/RIO De JANEIRO: The supply of 100 automatic Anti Radiant missiles (MAR-1) to Pakistan from Brazil would be started this year.

Defense sources informed Online that Government of Brazil on December 03, 2008 gave approval for the sale of 100 missiles to Pakistan, which can be used in air-to-surface attacks on radar tracking installations. After formal agreement, the supply of such missiles would be started to Pakistan from Brazil this year and would be completed in 2 or 3 years, sources said, adding that, the medium-range missiles is being made by Brazilian firm Mectron.

Sources went on to say that not only missiles would be given to Pakistan but also Brazilian authorities would impart training and other facilities to Pakistani authorities in this respect.

MAR-I having 25 to 30 kilometer range is anti-radiant missile and can be used in air to surface attack on radar tracking installations of enemy.

The Pakistan’s defense authorities were of the view that the defense capability of Pakistan would be increased after taking 100 missiles from Brazil.

Pakistan would also enter in ranks of those countries having names in defense technology because Brazilian firm would also impart training facility to country’s respective authorities in order to give missile technology to Pakistan, they said.

[illuminatus]

^^ Absolutely made my day with this! Thanks!

[XiNiX]

Indeed its a Good News for Pakistan.
Will make the Air to Surface Capabilities even Better.

Can u tell us which plan shall use it ?

F16s , JF17 or J10s ?

[illuminatus]

Not only will these missiles improve A2S capabilities, but also complement the already growing list of ordnance on JF-17 and even the FC-20 in the future. The missiles are also capable of destroying different types of land-based and sea-based radars with different modes, including high power surveillance radars, low power mobile radars and radars used by surface-to-air missile systems! Just imagine MICA, Ra'ad ALCM, MAR-1, SD-10 and other weaponry loaded on JF-17! Truly an omni-role platform that's only going to get more lethal in the future. Another splendid part of this deal is that these missiles come with some level of tech transfer. It seems that after the delivery of 100 missiles Pakistan will be producing them domestically. The Brazilian assistance in training and other facilities seems to be a hint in this direction. I suspect that the range is much longer than revealed. The Brazilians have for years secretly been working on this missile and I'm sure that the specs too have evolved. However, even if this weren't to be the case, Pakistani scientists have matured missile tech to such an extent that I'm sure we will see a modified (i.e. extended, improved, upgraded) version in the future! This superb development can only be rejoiced.

[illuminatus]

Originally Posted by XiNiX

Indeed its a Good News for Pakistan.
Will make the Air to Surface Capabilities even Better.

Can u tell us which plan shall use it ?

F16s , JF17 or J10s ?

JF-17 and FC-20 platforms most certainly! I doubt that the F-16s will be allowed to carry these beauties. Americans will not allow this to happen.

PS. I'm so glad that this deal has gone through despite Indian bickering LOLZ

[XiNiX]

Originally Posted by illuminatus

JF-17 and FC-20 platforms most certainly! I doubt that the F-16s will be allowed to carry these beauties. Americans will not allow this to happen.

I think it suits J10s due to their range .. of course F16 was much better.

[illuminatus]

Originally Posted by XiNiX

I think it suits J10s due to their range .. of course F16 was much better.

Former ACM Tanvir Mahmood has previously confirmed that the main priority for the future JF-17 Block will be range and hardpoints improvement.