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seeker can scan low power radar up to 500 km. That is theoretical distance... Let us take 50% range as practical. Missile has range between 25 and 50 km. So seeker in Ra'ad or Babur would mean loitering and kill of anything that acts like a radar up to 500 km inside India. And... It would surely hurt Indian Awacs... With Elint on Erieye this seeker could be further optimized for Arrow...
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In 1998 the program was started to develop an anti-radiation Missile to equip the aircraft A-1 (AMX) of the FAB and is expected for 2008 the end of their development. From the beginning the programme was conducted by CTA (General Command of Aerospace Technology) together with the company Mectron, also of San Jose dos Campos,
The MAR-1 missile is a kind of tactical air-to-surface, anti-radiation from medium range, with guidance passive radar with multiple option of bandwidth to attack anti-defence systems based on land or at sea platforms. An analysis in simulated scenario showed that the head of the search MAR-1 is able to detect a radar of low power (in the case of a director shot Skyguard) to distances greater than 500 km. |
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i knew something like this would happen. A great new start of a relationship between Brazil and Pakistan. I hope the relationship goes strong for many years to come
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Very good news inded !! GOD bless Pakistan.
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Both Brazil and RSA should be candidates or rather partners in a new JV. Here's a beautiful image of the MAR-1. ![]() | |
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Indeed a good news. This might be a fitted to JF-17. This also means that Pakistan is close to selecting the avionics and weapons for JF-17 and has done all the work.
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Not completly sure about the ToT deal. Here is why. The missiles come with ancillary equipment including training rounds, storage and diagnostic and testing equipment, all of which has to be paid for besides the cost of the ARM itself. ToT would be much more costlier IMHO.
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o Allah what did he finds who lost u and what did he loose who found u.
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pakistan had requested the AGM-88 from the US but it was not allowed for FMS sale. this seems to be a very good alternative.
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2 VVPI a/c are also being purchased. PAF is the lead customer from Embraer. so the defence relationship is starting to mature. thx mushy for his visit to brazil.
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Where US HARM AGM-88 cost is US$ 284, 000 So we hve ToT in this deal...Tht why looking costly...and its must be with 50+ km range to ensure kill enmey radars. | |
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RIO DE JANEIRO, Dec. 2 (Xinhua) -- Brazil's Foreign Trade Chamber (Camex) approved on Tuesday official guarantees for the sale of 100 missiles to the Pakistani government.
The missiles will be produced by Mectron, a company from Sao Jose dos Campos, Sao Paulo state, with financing from Brazil's Development Bank (BNDES), local media reported. The sale was negotiated in April between the Pakistani government and the Brazilian Air Force, but it needed approval from the Brazilian authorities to be completed. The missiles, which equip aircraft, and detect and destroy radars, will cost 85 million euros. The approval of the official guarantees means that the Brazilian government takes responsibility for the producing company. After the Camex meeting, Brazil's Defense Minister Nelson Jobim stressed that the sale was an operation between the two countries and praised the missiles. "It is a very efficient tool, which monitors land from airspace, locates and eventually destroys," he said. The missiles deal will lead to a development of Mectron's production chain, Minister Jobim said. To deliver the 100 missiles to Pakistan, the small company will increase its production capacity fivefold. |
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I bring to you some informations about MAR-1.
--------------------- BRAZILIAN AIR FORCE Air-Surface Missile Anti-Radiation MAR-1 MÍSSIL MAR-1 Missel MAR-1 surface-Air Anti-Radiation The MAR-1 missile is a tactical-type air-surface anti-radiation from medium range with passive radar guidance with multi-band option of moving to attack the anti-defense systems based on land or on sea platforms. The MAR-1 will be employed in the context of the civil war electronics Removal of Enemy Air Defense. The anti-missile radar limitation has to be purchased and overall FAB is developing the MAR-1 with the CTA and Mectron since 1998. After you fired the missile climbs to 10 thousand feet and begins to scan the area of the target before diving. The engine will have 2 stages and reach about 25 kilometers when launched from an altitude of 10,000 meters, and reached a speed of Mach 0.5 to Mach 1.2. The missile can be programmed with points of reference. The RWR of AMX can be used to detect targets assuming a mode of self-defense. The fins of control are in the middle of the missile. AMX endowed with the Missel MAR-1 Range: 25,000 m in altitude of 10.000m Speed of launch: Mach 0.5 to Mach 1.2 Angle of presentation: lateral lobes of the radar antenna detected Angle of sight: 60 ° Characteristics Overall length (mm) 4030 Diameter (mm) 230 Total weight (kg) 274 Guiding: Passive Active Laser 89 Head-of-war (kg): 90 Similar missiles: Shrike (North American) Standard Harm (North American) Alarm (English) Armata (French) |
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The development of anti-missile radar MAR-1 allowed the weapon currently has six September ups or modes of operation available for employees, chargeable to the FAB define which of them will be incorporated in the final version of the missile.
The most common are the targets of held autonomous search by the missile, which automatically identifies all electromagnetic emissions in the area of operations, classifying them into friends or enemies, and presenting them to the pilot, for the selection of a target; or to search for a specific target, selected among those existing in a large existing library in memory of the missile, updateable at any time. The MAR-1 also has the ability to continue in attack on the target, even if it ceases its emissions. "We can identify a target using satellites to make a triangulation of your position, which then relay the information via data-link to the aircraft, which feeds the data into the missile. But therein lies the question: who in Latin America or in Africa, our potential markets, has this technology for network-centric warfare? It does no good to put a missile capability in which no one will use. It will only cost the gun and decreases your chances of export "- says one of the engineers Mectron. Asked if the gun has GPS system to ensure accuracy in the final attack, or if it has the parachute system to be used in the mode of attack against targets of opportunity, as the British ALARM, the company said that these figures are still secret. "What we can say is that the MAR-1 is a weapon of 350 kg, full of capabilities and does not look anything like the duty to any foreigner, overcoming inclusive, some of them. When the missile come into operation in the FAB and its capabilities are being developed, I'm sure that everyone is extremely proud of the exceptional weapon that building "- says an official of the company. The scope that had been circulated in the press, which gave figures of 25 km for a launch to 30 thousand feet, the Mectron informs: "list is completely out of reality, are aerodynamic data from a study that were not updated. The current scope, demonstrated in tests, it is much, but much larger than this, and we will improve it further. To take an idea, recently make a test with a new engine that was so powerful it melted the mouthpiece of exhaustion and the rear portion of the missile, meaning that we had to redesign everything. Now, a real number set and I can not provide. It is confidential. " The development has suffered various difficulties such as lack of national platform girométrica (navigation system direction of the gun) while seeking the target systems, this system has suffered embargoes while trying to purchase foreign forcing the technicians to develop the product in the country, starting from scratch, developed a block girométrico the miniaturized optical fiber with 3 orthogonal axes providing the central processing of weapon that the necessary information together with the accelerometer guarantee the accuracy of the equipment. The same occurred with the head of the search missile that when the Brazilian government tried to buy an American supplier, purchase that was clearly blocked by the U.S. government because "it is not interesting for the American defense Brazil introduce anti-radiation weapons in this region "Forcing the CTA to develop locally the head of search. The results achieved in tests and simulations was the head of that search is able to detect a low-power radar (a director of Skyguard shot) at distances over 500 km. The CTA used aircraft division HS 123 of the test flight simulators and emission TS 100 systems plus the Excalibur (05 to 18 GHZ). Possible features (Wikipedia) Characteristics Reach More than 35 km to 30 000 feet. Speed of Mach 0.5 to Mach Release 1.2 Lóbulos side angle of presentation of the radar antenna detected 60 ° angle of sight Total length 4030 mm Diameter 230 mm Total weight 274 kg Head of War 90 Kg Guiding Passive Fuze Active Laser Manufacturer Mectron Industry and Trade |
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