Brazil to provide 100 missiles to Pakistan

[maximus]

Originally Posted by Kharian_Beast

No doubt the best they have to offer is already being closely examined. I am also a fan of the G6 self propelled howitzer.

That's true. Having the G6 in Pakistani inventory would be something. That would really give some fire-power to PA.

[Mark Sien]

Originally Posted by epool

I respect your opinion but let us wait and see where does the G6 deal end up. I can most certainly tell you however that South Africans have so far not approved the Export License to sell the Denel 40mm AGL to Pak Army and that is a very minor item compared to the G6.

Taste of the pudding lies in the eating, we have just ordered the pudding from the RSA menu, lets see if the kitchen delivers!

epool: I respect your opinion and have enjoyed the discussion, but one question...is PA discussing G6 with RSA? Noticed that it is a wheeled machine, its use implies rapid mobility and use against irregulars in FATA & W.Border? Any plans for ultra-lightweight field artillery systems similar to the M777 (or this system itself)? After the news regarding the PA wishing to raise an Airborne force, it sounds to me specialized artillery will join this Western Border force? Any news on new types of armor - i.e. special counterinsurgency tanks based on Al Khalid?

[Kharian_Beast]

Originally Posted by maximus

That's true. Having the G6 in Pakistani inventory would be something. That would really give some fire-power to PA.

Yes they are beasts of a machine, I saw one up close a few years ago in Capetown, fearsome presence no doubt.

[m15t3r7]

Originally Posted by maximus

That's true. Having the G6 in Pakistani inventory would be something. That would really give some fire-power to PA.

how many G6 is Pakistan gonna buy?????????
and how many is a good number to have???

[rubyjackass]

Originally Posted by imran khan

Brazil to sell 100 missiles to Pakistan

BRAZILIAN authorities gave approval for the sale of 100 missiles to Pakistan which can be used in air-to-surface attacks on radar tracking instalations, Defense Minister Nelson Jobim said.

The MAR-1 medium-range missiles made by the Brazilian firm Mectron are tactical anti-radiation weapons whose existence was kept under wraps for many years, according to Jane's Information Group.

Mr Jobim called them "very effective ways to monitor" areas flown by war planes, and said the deal with Pakistan, originally signed in April this year, was worth €85 million ($167.6 million).

He dismissed suggestions that the transaction might be questioned in light of last week's Islamist extremist massacre perpetrated in Mumbai, India, which some Indian officials suspected was launched from within Pakistan.

"Brazil negotiates with Pakistan, not with Pakistani terrorists," Mr Jobim said.

"To cancel this deal would be to attribute terrorist activities to the Pakistani Government

looks nice bro

cool pics...

[skybolt]

[Tomahawk]

Another pic of MAR-1

[Super Falcon]

is it is a air to air or air to ground

[XYON]

Originally Posted by Mark Sien

epool: I respect your opinion and have enjoyed the discussion, but one question...is PA discussing G6 with RSA? Noticed that it is a wheeled machine, its use implies rapid mobility and use against irregulars in FATA & W.Border? Any plans for ultra-lightweight field artillery systems similar to the M777 (or this system itself)? After the news regarding the PA wishing to raise an Airborne force, it sounds to me specialized artillery will join this Western Border force? Any news on new types of armor - i.e. special counterinsurgency tanks based on Al Khalid?

PA has been wanting a good long range artillery platform for a very long time. In the past they have tested the 155mm VAMAS Howitzer from Finland. Until recently they are favorably looking at the G6 due to its 'shoot & scoot' ability & due its high reliability in 'hot & high' conditions! Lessons have been learnt during the Kargil episode and PA has revised its ORBAT to include wheeled artillery such as the G6. They have also been gifted a Turkish 155mm light howitzer (capable of heli lift) like the M777 which is currently under test and trials. Therefore, if at all Pakistan goes for light howitzer's it would be from Turkey for obvious reasons.

Personally I am not aware of any AIRBORNE FORCE being raised by the Army. But a RAPID REACTION FORCE, yes consisting of Special Forces elements, light artillery & upgraded infantry with IFV's , most likely yes! Again lessons learnt from the war on terror at our western borders!

[fatman17]

Originally Posted by epool

PA has been wanting a good long range artillery platform for a very long time. In the past they have tested the 155mm VAMAS Howitzer from Finland. Until recently they are favorably looking at the G6 due to its 'shoot & scoot' ability & due its high reliability in 'hot & high' conditions! Lessons have been learnt during the Kargil episode and PA has revised its ORBAT to include wheeled artillery such as the G6. They have also been gifted a Turkish 155mm light howitzer (capable of heli lift) like the M777 which is currently under test and trials. Therefore, if at all Pakistan goes for light howitzer's it would be from Turkey for obvious reasons.

Personally I am not aware of any AIRBORNE FORCE being raised by the Army. But a RAPID REACTION FORCE, yes consisting of Special Forces elements, light artillery & upgraded infantry with IFV's , most likely yes! Again lessons learnt from the war on terror at our western borders!

PANTER 155mm Light Howitzer!

[Tomahawk]

Originally Posted by Super Falcon

is it is a air to air or air to ground

Its an air to ground anti-radiation missile, its is used in SEAD (Suppression of Enemy Air Defenses) operations; to destroy enemy air defence radars. Range is 25 km.

[Super Falcon]

thanks for your kind information mate why not we buy some heavy duty howitzer from china or from sweeden

[XYON]

Originally Posted by Super Falcon

thanks for your kind information mate why not we buy some heavy duty howitzer from china or from sweeden

PA is looking for a wheeled 155mm Howitzer which China and Sweden do not make. Otherwise, the 155mm Howitzer is now being made by Singapore, China, Sweden, Finland, Turkey, US, UK etc. But they all are mainly towed or heli-lift type guns. The Germans are in process of testing the wheeled type 155mm Howitzer but its finalization and likely induction into the German Army is long way off! The G-6 is already in service with the RSA.

[Tikuna]

MAR-1's Mectron to Pakistan

A new front has been opened to export two weeks ago when Brazil announced the closing of a contract with Pakistan for the supply to that country in Asia, a hundred anti-radiation missiles MAAR-1 manufactured by the company MECTRON Paulista, in collaboration with the CTA (General Command of Aerospace Technology).
The negotiations that had already started a few months ago was completed in late November, after being assured alongside the export financing system
The weapon has a range estimated between 40km and 50km and it is intended to attack the enemy radar systems, especially the radar systems of anti-aircraft defense.This acquisition takes place by the Pakistanis some time after India's announcement of the acquisition of the defense system of anti-air Spyder, which uses both the Python and Derby missiles, manufactured in Israel.
The Pakistani option, when it was known the Indian claim to acquire the Spyder system, leads to the conclusion that the industry has been successful MECTRON produce a system that can be effective in the presence of radar systems ELTA EL/M-2106 Israelis.The maximum range of missiles Derby (the Spyder system uses two different types of missiles) is estimated at 60km. To get a weapon recently sold to Pakistan, although no concrete data are available, it is possible that the Pakistanis have opted for the Brazilian system, for having found capable of canceling the Israeli system, along with the radar of the oldest systems manufacturing as the Russian SA-8 'Gecko' and SA-6 "Akash" adapted locally.

Copy of Shrike

Allegedly the Brazilian missile is a development of missile AGM-48 'Shrike' which was obtained by Brazil in 1982 during the Falklands War. A Vulcan bomber, was forced to make an emergency aterrisagem in Rio de Janeiro and its interior followed such missiles, which the British were using to attack air defense radars Argentines.The Great Britain protested at the time, but the missile did not actually be returned.
However, although the characteristics of the Brazilian system are not known, we can consider the purchase, taking into consideration that against this type of missile systems should be used.The MAAR-1, can - for example - set the final location of the target, even if the enemy radar system is turned off (tactic used by the Argentines in 1982)

Economic situation in Pakistan

The fact that the missile system had been exported to Pakistan, causes some problems because that country is facing a severe economic crisis, which prompted the government to seek the support of the IMF.
The sale was released with Brazilian finance.She is however considered strategic because few countries are developed (copied or not) ability to produce such equipment.

[Super Falcon]

is spyder missile is more superior than brazillian missile system