Stop violence against Christians in Karnataka

[Dance]

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The Karnataka chapter of the All-India Christian Council (AICC) and the Karnataka Missions Network have demanded that violence against Christians be stopped and the rule of law must prevail.

Addressing presspersons here on Monday, leaders of these organisations expressed concern over the “continuing violence” against the Christian community, which in recent weeks had been manifested through the attacks on three churches.

State president of AICC M.F. Saldanha said that constitutional rights must be enforced and preventive measures taken to ensure that violence against minorities did not continue. “There are adequate laws, but still no action is being taken,” he said. Although, there had been instances of violence against people of minority communities in Gujarat, Orissa and Karnataka, it was only in Karnataka that violence had not stopped. In the other two States, violence appeared to have abated.

Chairman of the Karnataka Missions Network Walter J. Maben said that the State government had been promising action on the issue. “The only action the State government has taken till now is to withdraw cases against those involved in the attacks,” he said.

Despite promises, the State government had not withdrawn “false” cases against members of the Christian community, he said.

Mr. Maben claimed that after the 2008 church attacks, around 1,000 cases had been filed against Christian priests across the State for alleged conversions. Pastor of Fountain of Blessing Church P.T. Jozhson said that last week when he was away, a few policemen had told his wife that permission was needed to continue worship.

Mr. Maben claimed that many such instances were likely to have gone unreported.

Dealing with the issue of conversions, president of the Karnataka Komu Souharda Vedike K.L. Ashok said that all religious leaders, including Madhwacharya, used “intellectual inducements” to propagate their religion. If money was given to convert somebody's faith, the person would return to the faith that had been given up because the person would not have been able to give up his or culture.

Mr. Ashok said KKSV “suspected” that violence was being perpetrated by the Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh “with an eye on the coming elections”.

He said the RSS was the “mother organisation” and it directed actions of other bodies such as Vishwa Hindu Parishat and Bajrang Dal. Taking a dig at Prani Daya Sangha, which had been named in the alleged killing of the driver of a truck transporting cows at Peenya in Bangalore, Mr. Ashok said that the association had sympathy for animals but not human beings. He urged Chief Minister D.V. Sadananda Gowda to ensure protection to minorities and backward classes.

The Hindu : Cities / Mangalore :

[IndoCarib]

I am from Mangalore. I admit there were some few incidents between the 2 communities. The inciting event leading to this unfortunate communal violence was allegations of conversions of Hindus to Christianity by a sect. A Christian sect ' New Life' started distributing pamphlets containing derogatory remarks about Vishnu and Krishna and how Jesus was the saviour. The resulting retalliation by Hindu community led to few Churches being damaged. Mangalore is a peaceful city now. Things are slowly becoming normal.

But my question is how this is world affair material ?

[Chinese-Dragon]

But my question is how this is world affair material ?

LOL, what a question. Here are some threads that were posted by YOU in the World Affairs section:

China's Great Wall eaten away by mining

Social Unrest Grows as China's Economy Booms

China’s Economic Engine Shows Signs of Slowing

Analysis: Is China left holding the credit baby?

Now please tell me how any of these threads have anything to do with World Affairs. Or even defence in general.

[IndoCarib]

LOL, what a question. Here are some threads that were posted by YOU in the World Affairs section:

China's Great Wall eaten away by mining

Social Unrest Grows as China's Economy Booms

China’s Economic Engine Shows Signs of Slowing

Analysis: Is China left holding the credit baby?

Now please tell me how any of these threads have anything to do with World Affairs. Or even defence in general.

China is a country. (You may say what happens in China affects the world )Mangalore is a small town in India. Moreover the links you mentioned are from international media. This thread is from Indian domestic media

Is it too difficult to know the difference ? Or am I expecting too much from you?

[fateh71]

In the past Pakistani based groups have tried to create trouble between hindus and christians in south India, that angle should be investigated too. While the hindu terrorists are bad enough, and the christian missionaries provocative and ''always persecuted'' enough, the muslim variety have an entire deep state dedicated to them.

INDIA Christians Welcome Guilty Verdicts In Church Blast Cases But Oppose Death Sentences |

[Chinese-Dragon]

China is a country. (You may say what happens in China affects the world )Mangalore is a small town in India. Moreover the links you mentioned are from international media. This thread is from Indian domestic media

Please explain to me how this thread: China's Great Wall eaten away by mining -> Has anything to do with World Affairs, since YOU posted that thread in the World Affairs section.

Maybe the mining in the area around the Great Wall, will bore a hole through the center of the Earth and cause sleeping disorders in the USA or Canada? Maybe it will unleash a Balrog from the depths of Tolkien's imagination?

[Dance]

In the past Pakistani based groups have tried to create trouble between hindus and christians in south India

Why just stop there? Pakistan "based groups" also caused gujarat,1984 riots, dozens of insurgencies, and every single internal problem in india too

[53fd]

In the past Pakistani based groups have tried to create trouble between hindus and christians in south India, that angle should be investigated too. While the hindu terrorists are bad enough, and the christian missionaries provocative and ''always persecuted'' enough, the muslim variety have an entire deep state dedicated to them.

INDIA Christians Welcome Guilty Verdicts In Church Blast Cases But Oppose Death Sentences |

What does Pakistan have to do with Indian Muslim based groups in South India b/w Hindus & Christians? Unless you are accusing Indian Muslims of being Pakistani agents & Pakistani sympathizers?

[IndoCarib]

Please explain to me how this thread: China's Great Wall eaten away by mining -> Has anything to do with World Affairs, since YOU posted that thread in the World Affairs section.

Maybe the mining in the area around the Great Wall, will bore a hole through the center of the Earth and cause sleeping disorders in the USA or Canada? Maybe it will unleash a Balrog from the depths of Tolkien's imagination?

Open that link and see. It says Reuters. So if it can appear in a international media, why cant it appear in world affair section here ?

[53fd]

Why just stop there? Pakistan "based groups" also caused gujarat,1984 riots, dozens of insurgencies, and every single internal problem in india too

Damn right.

Btw Dance, I'm sure you know that Pakistan is accused by India of supporting the Maoists, the LTTE (who were their own terrorist proxies against Sri Lanka!!!), the groups in North East India as well?

ISI-LTTE nexus to target south India? - Times Of India

'ISI had offered help to Nepal Maoists' - Express India

ISI started anti-India operation via B'desh: Book - Express India

[Starblazer]

Not really surprised that Christians are being treated badly, there already a lot of intra religion persecution of castes within the Hindu community. If their own people aren't being treated fairly how could they treat anyone else different.

[roadrunner]

In the past Pakistani based groups have tried to create trouble between hindus and christians in south India, that angle should be investigated too
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the is the most desperate conspiracy in the history of conspiracies....

[fateh71]

What does Pakistan have to do with Indian Muslim based groups in South India b/w Hindus & Christians? Unless you are accusing Indian Muslims of being Pakistani agents & Pakistani sympathizers?

The leader of that group is based in Pakistan, thats the problem. Otherwise Indian muslims have no interest in creating enmity between hindus and christians, however such enmity helps our enemy state pakistan, so some people were indeed used for this purpose until the group was finally banned.

The fountainhead is important. surely your burning desire to get justice to christians (only) in india will help you open your eyes to all possibilities, particularly ones already proven in the past?

the is the most desperate conspiracy in the history of conspiracies....

By your high standards it has to be, because it was proven in a court of law LOL

[Dance]

Damn right.

Btw Dance, I'm sure you know that Pakistan is accused by India of supporting the Maoists, the LTTE (who were their own terrorist proxies against Sri Lanka!!!), the groups in North East India as well?

ISI-LTTE nexus to target south India? - Times Of India

'ISI had offered help to Nepal Maoists' - Express India

ISI started anti-India operation via B'desh: Book - Express India

Lol at the "ISI-LTTE nexus".

Then some people have the nerve to say that Pakistanis dabble in conspiracy theories

[KS]

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Not really surprised that Christians are being treated badly, there already a lot of intra religion persecution of castes within the Hindu community. If their own people aren't being treated fairly how could they treat anyone else different.

So stop funding these soul harvesting groups who denigrate the local traditions and flare up the sentiments.

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This is the report of fact finding mission by BIRD (whose founder is the present leader of the Christians in the Karnataka State Minorities Commission) and this is what he has to say.

http://www.birdindia.org/xhtmlphp/birdactivities.php

The local attacks on churches were entirely due to a series of grave provocations from a fringe group of churches who continue attacking the local way of life by publishing and distributing materials that openly denigrate Hinduism and Hindu Gods and indulging in forced conversions.

Its high time the mainstream Christian community reins in these fringe extremist evangelical groups that are harming the local way of life and the Hindu-Christian communal harmony in the areas around Mangalore.