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Same with Russia, they also have many cultural connection with the Turkic Tatars.
Thus it is impossible for us to fight against the whole Turkic race, but we are against their Neo-Ottomanism imperialistic act against their neighbors.
Both the early Tang and its predecessor Sui were for a time "tributary" states to the various Tujue tribes that grew powerful during 五胡 period (using Chinese history as a reference). Tang was an explicit vassal to "East Tujue" in its early days, until East Tujue itself fell again.
We won't discuss "Western Tujue", or prototype "Oghuz Turks" here.
There was this fascinating (to me at least), if one might say "anti-China", "anti-Persia", and anti-a-lot-of-of-other-things pan-"turkist" history section as part of this website called "Ozturkler.com (or .org ..), until it was taken down a year or two ago. Ergo better not have done it or I'd be upset.
I learned many more "facts" about "middle Chinese" history from that website than from any other source in recent memory.
If any Turks know if the site is "resurrected" in a different name or elsewhere - I just care about the history section, please inform and I would appreciate.
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Last edited by ChineseTiger1986; 03-04-2012 at 01:22 AM.
This "Neo-Ottomanism" is but a cover for "Neo-Byzantinism" by the rather broad-based elites and their ("Turkified" Anatolian Hellenes) to assert influence in traditional Byzantine territory and prevent chaos.
The "neo-ottomanism" is a modifier, and to some extent, an "anti-dote" to the pan-Tujue tendancies. The "Panturkist" sentiment definitely has its grassroot support. But most importantly it was sponsored by xxxxxxx against Russian and Iran, and at the very last, maybe China.
Think Tiger, think.
The current occupants of "Khanbaliq" should not concern themselves with "neo-ottomanism" so much, rather it is a "complementary" development. Though brother SCP may cast a weary eye.
Pls clear out the baboos from Hindustan.
Otherwise it's a waste of time for anyone else.
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