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    Li Zhaoxing, a spokesman for the fifth session of the 11th National People’s Congress, which closed Monday in Beijing, delivered a fatal blow to the fantasy of political reform propagated by regime leaders in recent years.



    Chinese Regime in Crisis
    At a press conference on March 4, before the opening of the meeting, Li started out by commenting positively on direct elections, but then he switched and said a direct-election system across the country is not suitable for China.

    “In view of China’s vast size, its large population, its unbalanced economic and social development, and the inconvenient transportation [system] in some areas, it is not convenient, it is difficult to implement a direct election,” Li said.

    Li also said China’s election system “is a combination of direct and indirect elections and suits China’s national conditions.”

    The so-called “direct elections” in China are nothing more than a political game under the tight control of the Chinese Community Party’s (CCP’s) local party committees. To qualify, local candidates must receive prior endorsement from the local party committee and government officials.

    We have seen hundreds of independent candidates attempting to run for elections at the local level facing harassment of various forms. Direct elections across the country, under a one-party regime, cannot be implemented because, according to Li, they don’t suit “China’s national conditions,” to say nothing of being a political reform that would pave the way for democracy.

    Yet Li’s remarks are so absurd that one cannot help but wonder whether Li , China’s former Ambassador to the United States, who is considered the westernizing faction’s elite within the CCP, who is described by the Chinese media as “iron mouth” and the “poetic diplomat,” and who holds degrees from various prestigious universities in China, has any common sense.

    There are some other countries, larger in size than China—the United States, Russia, Canada, and India, for example—where democratic systems built upon direct popular elections have been implemented. Although Russia has not attained as great a level of democracy as others because Prime Minister Putin likes to play political tricks the country is determined to implement serious direct elections.

    In regard to Li’s argument that China’s regional economic development is uneven, the regional economic development in the United States has also been uneven. Chinese customarily use different terms to describe different parts of the United States, calling the northern states “first world,” the western states “second world,” and the southern states “third world.”


    As conditions in these three regions vary, the levels of economic development and their industrial structure have significant differences. To adjust this imbalance, the U.S. federal government has adopted various fiscal measures, with outstanding results. The same “imbalance” also exists in other countries, such as the United Kingdom, Canada, and Germany.

    If direct voting should be held only on the day the economic social development is balanced, as Li seems to imply, there would not be any democratic country, and no system of universal suffrage, anywhere in the world.

    Li’s comments make no sense; they are nothing but propaganda aimed to maintain Beijing’s one-party authoritarian rule.

    Since the “reform and opening up,” Beijing and its clique have devised numerous reasons why a democratic system is not suitable for China. They seek to protect the interests of one-party rule from being ruined by political reforms and to ensure that power and special interests are smoothly handed down to their offspring.

    Their favorite excuses have been that China’s economic foundation is too frail, and the best time to carry out democracy is when the economy is fully developed. During the last decade, China has become an economic power, and its GDP even ranks second in the world, so the reasoning based on the economy is now no longer cited.

    The current pretext for withholding direct elections is that “people’s quality is too low,” meaning thatthe Chinese people’s education level is too low to let them vote.

    During the last few years, Premier Wen Jiabao has often pledged reform. In December 2003, during a speech at Harvard University, he was asked when China would begin the reforms. Wen answered, “Chinese people are not ready.”

    Some people have argued that when the United States, Taiwan, and India implemented democracy, the education level of their citizens were far lower than that of today’s Chinese. And some sympathetic people have said we should give Hu and Wen, the leaders of this generation, a little time.

    Now that Hu and Wen are going to step down soon, the “silver-tongued diplomat” Li speaks of “a vast territory and a large population.” What were long hyped as China’s greatest advantages during Mao’s rule, now become the reason for the regime’s inability to implement democratic reform.

    Beijing could not come up with a legal explanation for not enacting reform, and the silver-tongued Li could only blabber.

    The real reason that the communist regime does not want to implement democratic reform based on the principle of leaders elected by and governed by the people, is that such a system would end the rule of communist China’s self-seeking groups. If the system were established, cadres could no longer wantonly loot the state treasury and illicitly transfer economic and political interests among themselves


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    Falun gong paper.

    Enough said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WS-10 Engine View Post
    Falun gong paper.

    Enough said.
    Just because it prints articles that are not Chinese govt endorsed propaganda news- does not make it less credible. Did Li Zhaoxing not make that statement?

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    Butter and bread is more important than some fancy paper vote tickets.

    Since the most important things work fine why bother to change to another track?
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    Quote Originally Posted by oct605032048 View Post
    Butter and bread is more important than some fancy paper vote tickets.

    Since the most important things work fine why bother to change to another track?
    why did your family move to the US then?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JayAtl View Post
    why did your family move to the US then?
    Why did yours?

    India is a democracy right?

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    Even if China become a democracy if will a different form of democracy than the one existing now in the west, which incidentally is deteriorating. China should also let it take its natural course and not rush into things. First build up her economy and lift up her people living standard, then comes politic for the mass.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WS-10 Engine View Post
    Why did yours?

    India is a democracy right?
    Greater democracy! and opportunity...

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    Quote Originally Posted by JayAtl View Post
    why did your family move to the US then?
    I'm here not my family.
    And I'm here because they need my help in some scientific research.

    But I'm not denying that they do have better butter and cheese burger here.
    The steak is good too.

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    Greater democracy! and opportunity...
    As china develops, many overseas Chinese will return back to china to seek opportunity.
    Give me a high standard of living and I wont ever think about voting.

    Voting is a way to elect government to make your country strong and prosperous, if the current government is Doing their job, then why change it. China is becoming richer, and stronger and globally influencial every day, so why change something that is not broke.

    Quote Originally Posted by oct605032048 View Post
    I'm here not my family.
    And I'm here because they need my help in some scientific research.

    But I'm not denying that they do have better butter and cheese burger here.
    The steak is good too.
    Pu$$y too?

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    Quote Originally Posted by oct605032048 View Post
    I'm here not my family.
    And I'm here because they need my help in some scientific research.
    ah! the land of opportunity and freedom not possible in your system.

    Quote Originally Posted by WS-10 Engine View Post
    As china develops, many overseas Chinese will return back to china to seek opportunity.
    Give me a high standard of living and I wont ever think about voting.

    Voting is a way to elect government to make your country strong and prosperous, if the current government is Doing their job, then why change it. China is becoming richer, and stronger and globally influencial every day, so why change something that is not broke.



    Pu$$y too?
    wrong. As China grows the rich and even middle class are fleeing to the US with their money. They aint coming back .

    News HeadlinesWhy Wealthy Chinese Are Fleeing China
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    Quote Originally Posted by JayAtl View Post
    ah! the land of opportunity and freedom not possible in your system.



    wrong. As China grows the rich and even middle class are fleeing to the US with their money. They aint coming back .
    They are our secret service agents.
    Gotta infiltrate the top echelons of the American power establishment using money.

    If any Chinese say they hate the Chinese government, Americans will let you into their inner circle.
    We can get secrets, trade, technology, political, military, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WS-10 Engine View Post
    They are our secret service agents.
    Gotta infiltrate the top echelons of the American power establishment using money.

    If any Chinese say they hate the Chinese government, Americans will let you into their inner circle.
    We can get secrets, trade, technology, political, military, etc.
    they asked you stay home in your shanty when they rigged the sample pool for IQ tests in china , yeah?


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