US Commander:India poised for better role in Afghanistan.

[Black Widow]

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Humanitarian work????????. Get a grip - you have all these information centers and consulates to offer "humanitarian services" in Afghanistan? Read the post by karan put up earlier (if its still their). There are ulterior motives that India has so much interest in Afghanistan. For goodness sake you would think yo had a border with them anf millions of Indian citizens their. At least have the balls to admit their real motives but don't attempt to blind us with your rebuttal of the real intent - rather wasted effort by you...

Yes humanitarian work and business. ANA is getting training from Indian trainers. If condition will become better I am planning to open engineering and medical colleges in Afghanistan. Similarly many private education groups are eyeing on afghanistan.

Our objective is noble. America is Pakistan friend, why will they support India if India will do anti Pakistan work ??? Our economic and cultural connection is leading us to move to Afghanistan. It has nothing to do with Pakistan.

I am sorry to say but the truth is Pakistani brothers are very emotional, they get themselves in paranoia. Till date Pakistani authority and Army has not shown any proof which implicate Indians. Its fundamentalist and extreemist in Pakistan who are spoiling your innocent mind.

Mark my word, India is doing nothing wrong in Afghan, India is doing nothing Anti Pakistan in Afghanistan..

[karan.1970]

Breaking news Indians have realised they have no border with Iran or Afghanistan



Yea looking forward to India getting nuked if you try anything

I think I need to change my signature on defence.pk to

"In a debate, Nooclear bumb is the last resort of the incompetent"

[Nelson]

Yea looking forward to India getting nuked if you try anything

Hope the world doesn't take your nukes away for that to happen. All the best.

[lem34]

I think I need to change my signature on defence.pk to

"In a debate, Nooclear bumb is the last resort of the incompetent"

Why cos you say so. Another self appointed analyst. Starts off by telling me India will threaten Pakistan and then I retort that we will not sit at home and play with bangles we will do whatever to protect any incursions by Incredibles if necessary with some incredible nukes

[Pakistanisage]

Pay attention dude.. Where did I say America is gonna come back (As if they are going to leave ) ..
Any way look at the parallels..

1980's Pakistan and America as deeper than sea and taller than mountains friends. India has a USSR tilt. USSR loses out of Afghanistan and withdraws. In 2 decades, Russia is still friends with India, USA and Pakistan cant stand each other, and Pakistan which used to grow at twice the speed of India's growth, is growing at less than half of India's now..
Today, in my above para, replace USA with China and USSR with USA and repeat

Dude, stay focused , you are all over the place. we were talking about the US exiting Afghanistan and now you are making references to cold war relationships. what does that have to do with the US led NATO forces exiting Afghanistan.


Now as highlighted above your comment " as if usa is going to leave Afghanistan" let me say this.
Your knowledge of current affairs so Pathetic , I dont even know where to begin.

Dude USA is getting out of Afghanistan very soon. First the US said it will be out of Afghanistan in 2014.

Now they cannot wait that long and the timeline has moved to 2013. You obviously live a very sheltered life but you really should read about the World Affairs if you are going to debate on this Forum. Let me help you out with an recent Article published in the Economist ( a leading source on World Affairs ):


America in Afghanistan: Outta here | The Economist


Outta here

After a decade in Afghanistan, the United States rushes for the exit

Feb 4th 2012 | from the print edition

SPEAKING on February 1st shortly before a meeting of NATO ministers in Brussels, Leon Panetta, America’s defence secretary, dropped a bombshell. He said that he now hoped American troops in Afghanistan would be able to withdraw from a combat to an “enabling” role soon after the middle of next year—ie, about 18 months earlier than an existing plan agreed on in late 2010 at a NATO summit in Lisbon. The timing of Mr Panetta’s remarks about accelerating the pace of the transition to Afghan national security forces (ANSF) owes more to the Obama administration’s electoral calculations than to the situation in Afghanistan. There, everything argues against a rush for the exit.

Although Mr Panetta paid lip service to Lisbon, stressing that his proposal did not mean early withdrawal and adding “we’ve got to stick to the Lisbon strategy”, he was, in fact, carefully undermining what had previously been agreed on. Mid-to-late 2013 rather than end-2014 will almost certainly now become the date when most of the ISAF forces (that is, those in the NATO-led international coalition in Afghanistan) will start packing their bags. (Today, those forces stand at 130,000.) Mr Panetta knows, too, that his suggestion will hardly be resisted by America’s NATO allies, most of whom will be only too happy to head for an early bath if they think they can do so with America’s blessing.


The war is unpopular with Western voters for its expense (it cost American taxpayers $119 billion in 2011), the steady drip of casualties, the widespread impression that little has been accomplished, and what is seen, particularly since the killing of Osama bin Laden last year, as the tenuous connection between what happens in Afghanistan and safety at home. Nor does it help sentiment when rogue Afghan army soldiers turn on their NATO trainers, as happened last month when four French soldiers were killed, and this week when an American marine met a similar fate.

Mr Panetta cast further doubt on America’s commitment to what Mr Obama once called the “good war”, by hinting that the West might not be able to afford the planned expansion of the ANSF (the army and the police) to about 350,000 from their 305,000 today, unless non-fighting NATO allies, such as Japan, South Korea and the Gulf Arabs open their wallets. Revealingly, he said that “in many ways, the funding is going to determine what kind of force we can sustain for the future.”

Even the end-2014 deadline for withdrawing Western combat troops was tight, but at least it was based on a phased transition and a staged ISAF drawdown that everyone understood and was working towards. The second phase of the transition, which started last year, has already put the security of about half the country in Afghan hands. Over the next two years, the plan was for Afghan forces increasingly to fill in for Western troops as they either withdrew or were deployed elsewhere, holding what General John Allen, ISAF’s American commander, calls the “human terrain”. In a recent interview, General Allen described the ANSF as the “defeat mechanism” of the Taliban insurgency.

Accelerating the pace of the transition and cutting the numbers of the Afghan forces inevitably risks eroding the real security gains that have been made in the south (particularly in Helmand and Kandahar provinces) since America’s “surge” in 2010. It also places in jeopardy the aim of a concentrated effort to peg back the insurgency in the still-violent east during the next two fighting seasons. Before Mr Panetta’s announcement, General Allen’s job looked difficult but doable. Now it just looks difficult.

What makes all this so unfortunate is that there has recently been some progress in coaxing the leadership of the Taliban towards the negotiating table—a tribute of sorts to the potential success of the previous (as it must now be regarded) transition plan. However, a secret NATO report, leaked this week, called “The State of the Taliban”, based on interrogations with more than 4,000 Taliban and al-Qaeda detainees, painted a picture of an insurgency that is resilient and likely to remain so for as long as Pakistan believes it is in its strategic interests to give it material and moral support. The confidence undoubtedly owed something to the bravado of some of the interviewees. The Taliban’s senior leadership, better informed, may well be less optimistic about their prospects—although most Afghans yearn for peace, few want to see the return of the Taliban to Kabul. But Mr Panetta’s words, intended primarily to pander to opinion at home, can only have given them encouragement and stiffened their resolve.

[lem34]

Hope the world doesn't take your nukes away for that to happen. All the best.

Another Indian wet dream. Look mate your govt accused Pakistan govt of involvement with Bombay. Why didnt they invade afterwards eh eh. Do something. Talk like wait and see is cheap

[Nelson]

What about Hindu terrorism India is the epicenter of Hindu terrorism.

Says who? A Pakistani?
Now that's very strong proof to believe, trust me.

By the way, you do know which country is knows as terrorist state, don't you?

[lem34]

Says who? A Pakistani?
Now that's very strong proof to believe, trust me.

By the way, you do know which country is knows as terrorist state, don't you?

stop going off topic. You who hope to achieve Super power status by being America's proxy. White mans proxy eh that's what you aspire to lol

[karan.1970]

Your knowledge of current affairs so Pathetic , I dont even know where to begin.

Dude USA is getting out of Afghanistan very soon. First the US said it will be out of Afghanistan in 2014.

Tell me when that happens.. btw, you are forgetting that the 1st promise of this withdrawal was for the year 2012 when Obama came into power..

And current affairs are not what you read in the headlines.. They really exist between the lines...

The Hindu : News / International : Russia against U.S. drawdown in Afghanistan

[Black Widow]

Another Indian wet dream. Look mate your govt accused Pakistan govt of involvement with Bombay. Why didnt they invade afterwards eh eh. Do something. Talk like wait and see is cheap

India is doing nothing anti Pakistan in Afghanistan. Indo-Afghan relation is cultural and economic. We want there dates and mineral, they want education and good governance.

Clear hai???

[Albatross]

Says who? A Pakistani?
Now that's very strong proof to believe, trust me.

By the way, you do know which country is knows as terrorist state, don't you?

India is a country where even hindus of lower castes are not safe Caste-related violence in India - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia how can they call other nations terrorists..

Regarding afghanistan seewhere india actually stands from this independent article..Making Sense of the Latest India-Afghanistan-Pakistan Drama | Secret War | FRONTLINE | PBS

[lem34]

India is a country where even hindus of lower castes are not safe Caste-related violence in India - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia how can they call other nations terrorists..

Regarding afghanistan seewhere india actually stands from this independent article..Making Sense of the Latest India-Afghanistan-Pakistan Drama | Secret War | FRONTLINE | PBS

that is incredible sad. I wish Americans will assist them. White man assistance to go into Afghanistan also

[Nelson]

Another Indian wet dream. Look mate your govt accused Pakistan govt of involvement with Bombay. Why didnt they invade afterwards eh eh. Do something. Talk like wait and see is cheap

Off topic. But its fine.
The thing is, we just don't need to do anything to you guys now. You're pretty well doing it yourself.

[blood]

afghans like india , indians want to help afghanistan , what problem does this pakistan , you are not wanted

[Black Widow]

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India is a country where even hindus of lower castes are not safe Caste-related violence in India - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia how can they call other nations terrorists..

Regarding afghanistan seewhere india actually stands from this independent article..Making Sense of the Latest India-Afghanistan-Pakistan Drama | Secret War | FRONTLINE | PBS

Railway track in East Asia (Afghan, India, Pakistan, Iran)



this is what India want




We need our presence there before Chinese and French reach. I am praying that Iran-US issue get resolved amicably.