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    Quote Originally Posted by LeGenD View Post
    Current world geopolitical situation is vastly different from the age of Empires in past.

    US defence industry is an enormous money making machine. Wars are needed to support it. Do not confuse US with USSR. The latter (Empire) broke because of revolutionary ideas and failed economic plans from within.

    You guys think that WOT is messy? Check Vietnam then. 58000 US soldiers dead and over 100,000 missing. And I am not even talking about equipment based losses.

    Let us face the reality: Iran has got lot more to loose from this war because its infrastructure will be hit hard. And Israeli defensive capabilities are also being underestimated here.
    i do agree with some of what you state. But American economy is based on ious and is not sustainable ad finitum

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    Default Re: ‘Moment of truth is near:’ Israeli Air Force set to attack Iran

    Aryan, you're talking about a 15 Trillion Dollar Economy. And a nation with a very heavy military industry. Do you have any idea how powerful our military industry is?
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    So this is the start of the end for Israel as said by some israeli himself
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    Default Re: ‘Moment of truth is near:’ Israeli Air Force set to attack Iran

    Quote Originally Posted by Leviza View Post
    So this is the start of the end for Israel as said by some israeli himself
    The end of Israel? No. That will never happen. Period.

    Its better to maintain dialogue between key nation states in this region of contention. Let it be known that US foreign policy will not allow Israel to be destroyed. That is just plain non-negotiable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aryan_B View Post
    i do agree with some of what you state. But American economy is based on ious and is not sustainable ad finitum
    It is sustainable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by USAHawk785 View Post
    Aryan, you're talking about a 15 Trillion Dollar Economy. And a nation with a very heavy military industry. Do you have any idea how powerful our military industry is?
    Yea but you ow 3 trillion odd to china. The only reason that you are afloat is cos reserve currency status allow you to print money aka quantitative easing. No country in history has survived by printing ious. The world is already starting to move away from the US dollar.

    If Chinese wanted they could take you under tomorrow. Granted the rest of the world would suffer but America would be finished

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    It is sustainable.
    Only whilst the likes of China allow it

    Quote Originally Posted by USAHawk785 View Post
    The end of Israel? No. That will never happen. Period.

    Its better to maintain dialogue between key nation states in this region of contention. Let it be known that US foreign policy will not allow Israel to be destroyed. That is just plain non-negotiable.
    If you keep listening to nutters and war mongers like netanyahoo it will happen 70 years is nothing in historical terms. Its taken Zionists thousands of years to get a state my take is if they do not behave they will lose it significantly quicker

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    Default Re: ‘Moment of truth is near:’ Israeli Air Force set to attack Iran

    Quote Originally Posted by USAHawk785 View Post
    The end of Israel? No. That will never happen. Period.
    The Nazis said the same thing about the Third Reich!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aryan_B View Post
    Yea but you ow 3 trillion odd to china. The only reason that you are afloat is cos reserve currency status allow you to print money aka quantitative easing. No country in history has survived by printing ious. The world is already starting to move away from the US dollar.

    If Chinese wanted they could take you under tomorrow. Granted the rest of the world would suffer but America would be finished

    Only whilst the likes of China allow it
    China is America's largest external source of debt. Much of America's debts are internal. And they do make a lot of high-tech stuff. Not just military stuff.

    But yeah, they do have reasons to fear China to some extent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aryan_B View Post
    i do agree with some of what you state. But American economy is based on ious and is not sustainable ad finitum
    Bro, I understand your point. However, US economy is so damn big that it is hard to give a proper picture in articles that we typically see in the web. Their are certain facets of revenue generation in US which are unrivalled in the world. US defence industry is one of them.

    US defence industry thrives on sales of weapons. And nothing provides better assessment of quality of weapons then wars. Sad but truth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by USAHawk785 View Post
    The end of Israel? No. That will never happen. Period.

    Its better to maintain dialogue between key nation states in this region of contention. Let it be known that US foreign policy will not allow Israel to be destroyed. That is just plain non-negotiable.
    lol you american dont even know what are dialogue????? there are no conditions attached , there are no dialogues when apply conditions to it , its called dictation and you people should have learned it by now in Afghanistan after more then 1o years of war and killing of innocent people...
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    Quote Originally Posted by T-Rex View Post
    The Nazis said the same thing about the Third Reich!
    The Nazis also failed in completing their "Final Solution". In the end, all their actions were in vain, because out of the ashes of that war, led to the birth of the State of Israel.
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    The Nazis also failed in completing their "Final Solution". In the end, all their actions were in vain, because out of the ashes of that war, led to the birth of the State of Israel.
    Yes punish Muslims and Palestinians for crimes of Europeans against Jews

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aryan_B View Post
    Yea but you ow 3 trillion odd to china. The only reason that you are afloat is cos reserve currency status allow you to print money aka quantitative easing. No country in history has survived by printing ious. The world is already starting to move away from the US dollar.

    If Chinese wanted they could take you under tomorrow. Granted the rest of the world would suffer but America would be finished



    Only whilst the likes of China allow it
    Actually China is as much dependent on US as the latter is on it. US is largest business partner of China and China cannot afford to antagonize it either.

    Economies are becoming more intertwined with passage of time. Good thing is that this will create some balance.

    Quote Originally Posted by USAHawk785 View Post
    The Nazis also failed in completing their "Final Solution". In the end, all their actions were in vain, because out of the ashes of that war, led to the birth of the State of Israel.
    But birth of Israel has given birth to a new generation of problems.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aryan_B View Post
    Yea but you ow 3 trillion odd to china. The only reason that you are afloat is cos reserve currency status allow you to print money aka quantitative easing. No country in history has survived by printing ious. The world is already starting to move away from the US dollar.

    If Chinese wanted they could take you under tomorrow. Granted the rest of the world would suffer but America would be finished



    Only whilst the likes of China allow it



    If you keep listening to nutters and war mongers like netanyahoo it will happen 70 years is nothing in historical terms. Its taken Zionists thousands of years to get a state my take is if they do not behave they will lose it significantly quicker

    3 Trillion Dollar debt is minimal; what you fail to internalize, my friend, is that China and US economies are intertwined. The largest trading partner of China is the United States. Tho we can survive without China, China cannot survive without American trade. All the major investors in China are from the United States.

    The fallacy in your argument rests in the fact that:

    1. If China were to revoke anything, it would hurt the US economy as well as the world's but it would also DESTROY the Chinese economy

    2. 15 Trillion Dollar Economy. This is replenished annually. Can you even comprehend the magnitude of that number?

    I'll give you a comparative: Pakistan's GDP is 480 Billion; US GDP is 31X the size of Pakistan's GDP.

    Quote Originally Posted by LeGenD View Post
    Actually China is as much dependent on US as the latter is on it. US is largest business partner of China and China cannot afford to antagonize it either.

    Economies are becoming more intertwined with passage of time. Good thing is that this will create some balance.
    This is a very well said post. Do you have an economics or marketing background, Legend?
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    Quote Originally Posted by USAHawk785 View Post
    This is a very well said post. Do you have an economics or marketing background, Legend?
    Thanks man.

    I do not have economics background but I have majors in Finance and Marketing.
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