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    Quote Originally Posted by Desert Fox View Post
    The US will cut military Aid to Egypt on request of israel, if not now then certainly later, there is no doubt about that.

    Egypt should cooperate with China and maybe Russia (not really sure about Russians either, i read they gave israel codes to Syrian S-300's), Pakistan, Brazil, and Iran.

    But it depends on Egypt who they want to deal with.
    Russia did that due to Israel and Georgia drones, I believe Iranian not Syria. China is very involved in Africa why not let them in ? correct my problem is being dependent on one country isn't smart thats what the Mubarak government did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NeutralCitizen View Post
    Russia did that due to Israel and Georgia drones, I believe Iranian not Syria. China is very involved in Africa why not let them in ? correct my problem is being dependent on one country isn't smart thats what the Mubarak government did.
    They compromised Egypt's security by depending on US for the large portion of their defence equipment.
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    Default Re: Egypt cancels natural gas deal with Israel

    "Israel is not afraid of an aggressive Egypt, Israel is afraid of an advanced Egypt" - Norman Finkelstein
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    Quote Originally Posted by Desert Fox View Post
    They compromised Egypt's security by depending on US for the large portion of their defence equipment.
    It was due to the failures of Egypt with Soviet Weaponry but that has changed should look back at Russia.

    Quote Originally Posted by agentny17 View Post
    "Israel is not afraid of an aggressive Egypt, Israel is afraid of an advanced Egypt" - Norman Finkelstein
    Israel is afraid of Mubarak like regimes falling.

    Quote Originally Posted by Skorpian View Post
    And my greatest fears are, that this could be just a joint SCAF-Israeli joke to tell the Egyptian people to calm down claiming that there could be a war coming. I, as an Egyptian, strongly doubt that SCAF will hand over the power that easily.

    You're totally correct. I mean that, while we receive the aid from US, we can still rely on other arm exporters as Russia and even try to produce our own arms. US aid is free aid, so why say no to it? If the US aid at anytime proves to be a pressuring card on Egypt by USA, then we really don't need that aid that much.

    For arms, the west isn't really the only arms producer you know. While of course America's weapon technology is the best, that doesn't mean that other equipment is garbage.
    As for cutting off the aid, the significant effect will be on the military only with little to no influence on the economy. The aid isn't received in cash, it's mostly received in forms of weapons.
    This is why the Protests are continuing, all Junta's fall and so will they.

    Correct building a Domestic Industry is seriously needed, and looking to other countries, also I'm in favor of Trade deals that will benefit egypt from the EU or USA then Aid.

    Correct the Gulf Arabs have mostly USA weaponry and in the event they cut the parts and supply you will start to see their expensive weaponry rust.
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    Quote Originally Posted by agentny17 View Post
    "Israel is not afraid of an aggressive Egypt, Israel is afraid of an advanced Egypt" - Norman Finkelstein
    Egypt should do what israel has been doing for a while, start cooperating with more and more countries in its region as well as abroad, spread its influence rather than remain confined. Import knowledge from other developed/developing countries and establish a strong indigenous industry.

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    And what would israel do in such an event?
    Israel will do what it always dose.

    If eygpt will pose threat to israel, israel will fight.

    Lets hop this days will not come

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    Quote Originally Posted by Desert Fox View Post
    Egypt should do what israel has been doing for a while, start cooperating with more and more countries in its region as well as abroad, spread its influence rather than remain confined. Import knowledge from other developed/developing countries and establish a strong indigenous industry.
    I agree on that Including Egypt not Join the GCC it will be again under Saudi and Qatars Influence thus even weaker, a broken Libya is next door and egypt could influence that not to mention Syria Lebanon.

    Quote Originally Posted by Adir-M View Post
    Israel will do what it always dose.

    If eygpt will pose threat to israel, israel will fight.

    Lets hop this days will not come
    I have to agree let egypt get stronger and not relay on Americans but, then we can be equals and not fight.
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    Default Re: Egypt cancels natural gas deal with Israel

    Mubarak had Aid for 30 years yet it did not change anything more then 30 % of Egyptians are illiterate, Corruption is rampant the economy grew but people got poorer, I'm not in favor of aid but trade.
    i think that we wont lose anything the us can give us aid without interfering in our policy if they want to cut it let them be the one who backed out of the deal not us
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    Default Re: Egypt cancels natural gas deal with Israel

    Quote Originally Posted by Desert Fox View Post
    Egypt should do what israel has been doing for a while, start cooperating with more and more countries in its region as well as abroad, spread its influence rather than remain confined. Import knowledge from other developed/developing countries and establish a strong indigenous industry.
    Pakistan has China to back it and supply with Weapons in case of a war so you guys are covered. Influencing a Broken Libya maybe, Yes it is necessary on the other parts to.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mahmoud_EGY View Post
    i think that we wont lose anything the us can give us aid without interfering in our policy if they want to cut it let them be the one who backed out of the deal not us
    And they cut the Aid other countries will seek Influence in Egypt, Seriously believe the EU or the USA should give trade deals to help rather then the aid if Egypts Leaders were smart.
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    Default Re: Egypt cancels natural gas deal with Israel

    Gas isn't the issue here
    The issue is that eygpt starting to become extremist


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    Default Re: Egypt cancels natural gas deal with Israel

    Quote Originally Posted by Adir-M View Post
    Gas isn't the issue here
    The issue is that eygpt starting to become extremist

    You cannot Change the will of a people just because you don't like doesn't matter if extremist or not but natural changes like these must occur to build a modern state, trying to suppress radicalism didn't help.
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    You cannot Change the will of a people just because you don't like doesn't matter if extremist or not but natural changes like these must occur to build a modern state, trying to suppress radicalism didn't help
    But know that israel will not take threat easily.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adir-M View Post
    But know that israel will not take threat easily.
    Israel Opinion matters zero, if it did Egyptians would not be that Anti Israel, it takes time to change it's natural, Egyptians have to go through a transition for better or worse.

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    But know that israel will not take threat easily.
    So what are you gonna do? Make a pre-emptive strike on us whenever you want because you feel that there's a threat to your security?
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    So what are you gonna do? Make a pre-emptive strike on us whenever you want because you feel that there's a threat to your security?
    If the peace traty will go to the toilat & rokets with terrorist will come frome sinai toward israel eilat city.
    Be sure israel will act.


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