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    R&D neglected in Muslim countries - Arab News

    By RIYADH: ABDUL HANNAN TAGO ARAB NEWS STAFF
    Published: Apr 27, 2012 00:47 Updated: Apr 27, 2012 00:47

    A doctor at King Saud University said yesterday that from 700 to 1700, the Muslim world produced many of history's finest scientists and technologists.

    Sultan Meo said that although the light of knowledge had largely been extinguished from the Muslim world, it survived, and indeed flourished, elsewhere.

    Meo was talking at the concluding session of the five-day Saudi International Medical Education Conference (SIMEC2012) organized by the College of Medicine at Imam University in Riyadh.

    In his presentation on science and medical education in the Muslim world, Meo said the Muslim world has a vast geographical spread of approximately 1.27 billion people. In the Muslim world, most countries have significant natural resources.

    He said annual spending on science, research and development in Muslim countries is 0.2 percent of the gross national product, with only a few Muslim countries shifting toward a culture of scientific knowledge, and adopting new tools of science and technology in general and medical education in particular.

    He claimed that in the Muslim world biomedical and medical education journals are substantially less in number compared to those produced by universities in other countries and many of these journals do not have online access or indexed in major bibliographical databases.

    The majority of indexed journals, however, do not have a stable presence in the popular Pub-Med database. There are numerous factors that have been cited to explain the current status of science and medical education in Muslim countries.

    These factors include lack of research, scientists, medical educationists and insufficient integration within the international scientific community. Moreover, most of the Muslim countries do not have national science policies based on their local needs and available resources, he said.

    Discussing the perception of Saudi female higher education students using Web-based videoconferencing, Eman T. Mechana said there is a lack of studies focusing on Web-based videoconferencing applications in the context of Saudi female higher education.

    “We conducted a case study among two groups of Saudi female medical students in King Abdul Aziz University to explore their perceptions of a lesson when delivered via Web videoconferencing and how do real time communications through Breeze change the learning and teaching environment and activities. The perceptions of the two lecturers were also explored,” she added.

    Breeze was used to mediate two lessons, one for 15 undergraduate students and another for 15 postgraduate students. A number of data-gathering techniques were used including questionnaires, interviews and observations to gather responses and a qualitative approach of thematic analysis was used to identify themes in the perceptions of students and lecturers, she said.

    This study represented a shift from what these female students are used to in terms of interaction with a male lecturer. The shift took the form of increasing the perceived quality and deeper interaction throughout the lesson compared with traditional environments. The study is in favor of using Breeze in Saudi female higher education, she said.

    Mahmoud Mahmoud at Al-Imam University, who spoke on improving the patient experience starting from medical education, said patient satisfaction was important.

    He said the patient’s experience starts with his expectation before his visit and subsequent appointment call. The next steps include reception, investigation, examination and diagnosis through to the dispensing of medicine and leaving the place with a next appointment order or a cure.

    Patients rarely remember or talk about the rational, functional benefits received during a visit to a health service provider, he said.

    Therefore, outstanding patient experiences must be planned and predictable, not random and occasional, and this can be achieved through analyses of patient experience at each stage of the visit.

    Talking on the Cynefin framework as an approach for change management in undergraduate medical education, Ayesha Abdullah from Peshawar Medical College in Pakistan said over the past 40 years the landscape of medical profession has witnessed massive changes in medical education and societal expectations from the profession. One such change, the shift from a conventional system of medical education to an integrated system offers promising outcomes but the journey could be tricky, she said.

    © 2010 Arab News
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    "Research" is the product of open and inquisitive minds.

    Any society be it Muslim, non-Muslim, atheist that DOES NOT allow openness in every sphere of life, cannot do research.

    Openness is not allowed in primitive tribal societies regardless of their religion.

    Most of the Muslim societies are tribal, and hence no R&D.

    Hope this helps.

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    It would be rightful to sat that most of the Muslim R/D now a days is limited to disapproving existence of Israel, belittling India and trying to trace their Arab / ahle bayt ancestry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FaujHistorian View Post
    "Research" is the product of open and inquisitive minds.

    Any society be it Muslim, non-Muslim, atheist that DOES NOT allow openness in every sphere of life, cannot do research.

    Openness is not allowed in primitive tribal societies regardless of their religion.

    Most of the Muslim societies are tribal, and hence no R&D.

    Hope this helps.

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    no it didnt help..
    you are wrong...
    The Medieval Europe wasn't an open society..Newton did not live in an open society...But they did loads for science..
    Likewise the Alchemists of Muslims were in Medieval times ..
    So your analysis is wrong..
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    because muslim nations, is about following the faith and allah.

    everything else comes 2nd to them.
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    Most of the Muslim world is going through similar age as europe was going through during the dark ages They need peoples like Darwin or Gallileo who can go against centuries old beliefs and customs and increase rationality and scientific thinking upon their population
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    Quote Originally Posted by Safriz View Post
    no it didnt help..
    you are wrong...
    The Medieval Europe wasn't an open society..Newton did not live in an open society...But they did loads for science..
    Likewise the Alchemists of Muslims were in Medieval times ..
    So your analysis is wrong..
    ^^^^

    Muslims AND R&D?

    *cough cough*

    On a more serious note, "Medieval Europeans" were the first civilization in human history to have embraced a degree of "openness" needed for scientific pursuits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DelhiDareDevil View Post
    because muslim nations, is about following the faith and allah.
    everything else comes 2nd to them.
    No, there's several ways to follow God. Eg. every act of charity is a act of deed. Similarly, there's nothing wrong with science at all; the "follow blindly, don't question" concept is Judeo/Chrstian (believe it or not) in origin.
    Muslims are encouraged 'to seek knowledge', to 'find out about the world God created for them'; which is basically science.

    Quote Originally Posted by apo_Asura View Post
    Muslims AND R&D?

    *cough cough*
    Yes, they go together. Just because scientific research is not a norm in today's Muslim world, it doesn't mean it never was, or it will never be.

    Quote Originally Posted by Voldemort View Post
    who can go against centuries old beliefs and customs
    Today's lack of scientific research among Muslims doesn't have anything to do with 'old beliefs and customs' at all; the sheer ignorance that exists in the Muslim world is the sole reason scientific research is so uncommon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DRaisinHerald View Post
    No, there's several ways to follow God. Eg. every act of charity is a act of deed. Similarly, there's nothing wrong with science at all; the "follow blindly, don't question" concept is Judeo/Chrstian (believe it or not) in origin.
    Muslims are encouraged 'to seek knowledge', to 'find out about the world God created for them'; which is basically science.
    so by your logic that follow blindly is judeo-christian concept and not islamic you can go against teaching of quran and accept the scientific concept which quran opposes like evolution
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    Quote Originally Posted by apo_Asura View Post
    ^^^^

    Muslims AND R&D?

    *cough cough*

    On a more serious note, "Medieval Europeans" were the first civilization in human history to have embraced a degree of "openness" needed for scientific pursuits.
    apo_Asura is not a Muslim Bangladeshi, this post makes it obvious. He claims to be an atheist, but is probably of Hindu origin. Just pointing out for people who do not know that 9-10% Bangladesh population are Hindu.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kalu_miah View Post
    apo_Asura is not a Muslim Bangladeshi, this post makes it obvious. He claims to be an atheist, but is probably of Hindu origin. Just pointing out for people who do not know that 9-10% Bangladesh population are Hindu.
    there was no need to post that by his username we all knew it stop going off topic

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    Quote Originally Posted by Voldemort View Post
    there was no need to post that by his username we all knew it stop going off topic
    It was addressed to non-Indians who do not know meaning of words from South Asian language.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Voldemort View Post
    so by your logic that follow blindly is judeo-christian concept and not islamic you can go against teaching of quran and accept the scientific concept which quran opposes like evolution
    It's still a theory genius; evolution is not a concept accepted by all scientists.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kalu_miah View Post
    It was addressed to non-Indians who do not know meaning of words from South Asian language.
    but why would they care whether he is a hindu or muslim here he represents his country not religion

    Quote Originally Posted by DRaisinHerald View Post
    It's still a theory genius; evolution is not a concept accepted by all scientists.
    suppose it was would you believe it
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    I wonder how some dogmatic imams with power would look upon a request to build a particle accelerator to research the beginning of time and why we are here.


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