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    NEW DELHI: Jamiat Ulama-i-Hind (JuH), the largest body of imams, on Saturday sought social boycott of Qadyani, also known as Ahmadiyas, a sect who call themselves Muslims but are not accepted as such by the community.

    In a resolution adopted at the end of its two-day conference here, JuH accused Ahmadiyas along with Christians and RSS of trying to convert Muslims.

    "Preachers of Qadyani and Christian missionaries are trying to convert poor Muslims by offering them a better life. They mostly lure them in the net woven of the dreams of better job opportunities, health facility, cash and easy loan," the resolution said.

    Ahmadiyas or Qadyanis have been declared apostates in Pakistan, and face persecution and violence, with Sunni hardliners targeting them. Many of them have been killed in a wave of targeted killings. Ahmadiyas or Qadyanis, who face persecution also in Indonesia, are called so after the founder of their sect Mirza Ghulam Ahmed who was born in Qadian in undivided Punjab. They see the founder as a mujaddid. Although they claim that they don't dispute the Islamic view about Mohammad being the last Prophet, the Sunnis have argued that their belief in Ahmed being the reformer disputes that Mohammad was the last Prophet.

    JuH also sought steps to expel Qadyani from state waqf boards. Citing RSS attempts to convert Muslims, JuH said, "Few days ago, it was learnt that some Muslim youths joined it for spiritual peace."

    "Christian missionaries are organizing programmes to defame the Prophet of Islam. Some channels are teaching Bible in the name of Holy Quraan. They are spreading hatred and misconceptions about the Islamic Shariyah," the resolution said.

    "So-called spiritual movements with deceiving tactics, employing Islamic and Sufi terms are attracting people in the name of teaching art of life... due to lack of knowledge some people get deceived," it added.

    The imams stressed on the need to confront such movements "with full preparation".


    Christians, RSS converting Muslims’ Boycott Ahmadiyas for conversions: Jamiat Ulama-i-Hind - The Times of India

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    Default Re: Christians, RSS converting Muslims’ Boycott Ahmadiyas for conversions

    Fighting over the sheep again ..
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    Ahmadiyas or Qadyanis have been declared apostates in Pakistan, and face persecution and violence, with Sunni hardliners targeting them. Many of them have been killed in a wave of targeted killings. Ahmadiyas or Qadyanis, who face persecution also in Indonesia,
    So they want the same to happen to Ahmedi's in India as well?, the police should arrest these hate spreading mullahs and thrash the cr@p out of them.

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    ..... JuH said, "Few days ago, it was learnt that some Muslim youths joined it [HInduism] for spiritual peace.....
    Is it mandated in Islam that even if one feels Islam is not offering him the spiritual solace [which it is supposed to provide] he must not leave Islam ?

    Just asking.


    On a lighter note this was one funny comment :

    wahabi bin sunni mullah (kerela) replies to ghouse
    2 hrs ago (11:35 PM)
    Zakir naik says ordinary muslims are converted to the ahmediya sect by making them unconscious and then planting micro chips in their brain with the help of the CIA agents. It is a huge conspiracy to take over oil from India .
    Last edited by KS; 05-21-2012 at 02:15 AM.
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    If Hindus or Chriatians get Converted to Islam all This Sign Comes UP


    But if the Opposite Happens This Sign Comes out...
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    I don't see the problem. If someone converts willingly, then that individual is merely exercising his/her right to religion. He/she simply doesn't want to be the part of a faith he/she used to be in. What right does anyone else ( Hindu, Christian, Muslim,....or even the goddamned wiccans ) have in his/her own personal affairs ?

    Problem ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mech View Post
    I don't see the problem. If someone converts willingly, then that individual is merely exercising his/her right to religion. He/she simply doesn't want to be the part of a faith he/she used to be in. What right does anyone else ( Hindu, Christian, Muslim,....or even the goddamned wiccans ) have in his/her own personal affairs ?

    Problem ?
    U know Very well almost 90% Conversion in India takes Place sighting Economic benefit offered...

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    A little correction, if I may : the Ahmedis are divided into two - Ahmadiyya Muslim Community and the Lahore Ahmadiyya Jamat ! The former is in the overwhelming majority whilst the latter is not; additionally its the former that believes that Mr.Mirza Ghulam Ahmed was a Prophet of God, though, not a law-bearing Prophet, whilst the latter holds that he was just a 'Mujadid or a Reformer' and that the term Prophethood used is only metaphorical !

    Just a little trivia because the article had mentioned that the Ahmadiyya's believe that he was the Reformer which is in fact untrue because a minorities view (Lahori Jamat) has been extrapolated to the overwhelming majority !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nair saab View Post
    U know Very well almost 90% Conversion in India takes Place sighting Economic benefit offered...
    No, No i dont. 90 % ? ...back it up with credible statistics please. Besides, i wouldn't know much about it. I am a Syrian christian....we don't really care about the conversion hoopla. I understand there are a few aggressive "Pentecostals" hunting in pack for "souls to save" though, however their number or their influence is rather limited. Nor does it mean majority christian conversions are made out of greed....i'm afraid a great deal of it is propaganda.

    Btw, Muslims convert to Hinduism as well...does it mean the Hindus are paying them ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mech View Post
    No, No i dont. 90 % ? ...back it up with credible statistics please. Besides, i wouldn't know much about it. I am a Syrian christian....we don't really care about the conversion hoopla. I understand there are a few aggressive "Pentecostals" hunting in pack for "souls to save" though, however their number or their influence is rather limited. Nor does it mean majority christian conversions are made out of greed....i'm afraid a great deal of it is propaganda.

    Btw, Muslims convert to Hinduism as well...does it mean the Hindus are paying them ?
    LOL Dont get defensive i didnt say anything about Christians ... its like i told "some one stole my Purse" & a Guy standing next to me starts shouting i am not a Thief without any accusation made by me...

    So ur Syrian Marthoma...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nair saab View Post
    LOL Dont get defensive i didnt say anything about Christians ... its like i told "some one stole my Purse" & a Guy standing next to me starts shouting i am not a Thief without any accusation made by me...

    So ur Syrian Marthoma...
    Yeah, I just assumed cause i deal with that in many forums. Sorry
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mech View Post
    I don't see the problem. If someone converts willingly, then that individual is merely exercising his/her right to religion. He/she simply doesn't want to be the part of a faith he/she used to be in. What right does anyone else ( Hindu, Christian, Muslim,....or even the goddamned wiccans ) have in his/her own personal affairs ?

    Problem ?
    Agree with you on that one. Over here, Muslims are protected by law and are allowed to leave their faith and accept another if they so desire. At its worst, they may just face soured relations with their immediate family but on the whole there would be no major impact to their lives. Employers, friends, society, noone would really bother.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mech View Post
    Yeah, I just assumed cause i deal with that in many forums. Sorry
    But ur Assumption was Correct


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mech View Post
    No, No i dont. 90 % ? ...back it up with credible statistics please. Besides, i wouldn't know much about it. I am a Syrian christian....we don't really care about the conversion hoopla. I understand there are a few aggressive "Pentecostals" hunting in pack for "souls to save" though, however their number or their influence is rather limited. Nor does it mean majority christian conversions are made out of greed....i'm afraid a great deal of it is propaganda.

    Btw, Muslims convert to Hinduism as well...does it mean the Hindus are paying them ?
    In India, muslims neither convert nor get converted. Most conversion is done by christians.
    Hindus dont convert others to their faith, apart from few RSS type who try to "revert" (their words not mine) tribals who were earlier converted by christians.

    Most hindu to muslim or muslim to hindu conversion happens during marriage, and more often than not the girl converts. Even then convertion to hinduism will be quite odd, because which caste will she belong to?
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    Quote Originally Posted by hinduguy View Post
    In India, muslims neither convert nor get converted. Most conversion is done by christians.
    Hindus dont convert others to their faith, apart from few RSS type who try to "revert" (their words not mine) tribals who were earlier converted by christians.

    Most hindu to muslim or muslim to hindu conversion happens during marriage, and more often than not the girl converts. Even then convertion to hinduism will be quite odd, because which caste will she belong to?
    you are 100% right .my mom is shiya(hyderabadi) muslim and my father is marathi brahmin but after marriage my mom not converted to other religion .


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