Originally Posted by Skorpian
Hopefully, for the last time...
Justice is in the perspective of the observer. The Jews has justifications to have their own independent country like other world nations. The only place plausible is their historic homeland, the only they yearned to go back and the only place they were ever independent. The Jews were prosecuted and treated like second class citizens all over the world for two millennia, and only recently third of the were murdered in the biggest industrial genocide ever, what is more just than to give them their own country where they want to live?
All the other proposals were rejected by the Zionist movement, the wanted to go back only to the land of Israel.
The Jews were a majority in Jerusalem at least since the 19th century, why arguing with reality. They were 20% of the population in 1920.
Terrorism is killing innocent civilians, that is what the Palestinian terror gangs have done, justifying it is even worst. There is a lot the Palestinian can do and should do before start killing women and children. BTW,
Israel operates in the West Bank against Hamas infrastructure, without it who you think will rule this area? Fatah?
Al Aqsa mosque is quite safe, I do not where do you get your information about constant breaking in. Mind you the temple mount is under Israel authority and its security forces are entitled to take measures necessary to impose order, this is not an ex-territory.
Israel support the two state solution and offered the Palestinian their own independent state time and time again. of course this state will be under restrictions: in the last 100 years the Palestinians proved to be traitorous and unreliable, they used all terror means available to them to hurt Israel (from kidnapping planes, to terror squad coming form the sea to suicide bombing to rockets firing on Israel's civilian population), they glorify baby killers and bus exploders, they are still poised to eliminate Israel as the nation state of the Jewish people, and rules out the legitimacy of the existence of Israel. In this conditions and in light of the geographical invulnerability of Israel it will be foolish of Israel to do anything else than prevent the Palestinians from getting a better leverage to attack Israel again and again.
The Palestinians could have get a completely unrestricted independent state in the 1967 borders before 1967, Jordan and Egypt controlled these territories and Israel could not stop them from establishing a free Palestinian state. Only when they had the chance of doing that, the Palestinians and the Arabs wanted all of Israel too, so they missed their chance lost the 1967 war, turned to barbaric terrorism and failed, and now they should be happy to get what they can.
As for all the territories you mentioned (except of Shabha which according to UN decisions Israel is not obliged to give back to Lebanon), it is customary in international relations that the winning side keeps the territories it got while the losing side ask for peace and is happy to get back what it can. You country received back from Israel the entire Sinai which was conquer by Israel in 1967, tell your friend, Syria, to accept the same peace agreement Egypt has with Israel and we will be happy to give them the Golan Hights back. As for the West Bank and Gaza, who do you want we return them to? Jordan's and Egypt's rule there was never recognised by anyone.