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    TAKEBI, Myanmar (Reuters) This village in northwest Myanmar has the besieged air of a refugee camp. It is clogged with people living in wooden shacks laid out on a grid of trash-strewn lanes. Its children are pot-bellied with malnutrition.

    But Takebi's residents are not refugees. They are Rohingya, a stateless Muslim people of South Asian descent now at the heart of Myanmar's worst sectarian violence in years. The United Nations has called them "virtually friendless" in Myanmar, the majority-Buddhist country that most Rohingya call home. Today, as Myanmar opens up, they appear to have more enemies than ever.

    Armed with machetes and bamboo spears, rival mobs of Rohingya Muslims and ethnic Rakhine Buddhists this month torched one another's houses and transformed nearby Sittwe, the capital of the western state of Rakhine, into a smoke-filled battleground. A torrent of Rohingyas has tried to flee Rakhine into impoverished Bangladesh, but most are being pushed back, a Bangladeshi Border Guard commander told Reuters on Thursday.

    The fighting threatens to derail the democratic transition in Myanmar, a resource-rich nation of 60 million strategically positioned at Asia's crossroads between India and China, Bangladesh and Thailand. With scores feared dead, President Thein Sein announced a state of emergency on June 10 to prevent "vengeance and anarchy" spreading beyond Rakhine and jeopardizing his ambitious reform agenda.

    Reuters visited the area just before the unrest broke out. The northern area of Rakhine state is off-limits to foreign reporters.

    Until this month, Myanmar's transformation from global pariah to democratic start-up had seemed remarkably rapid and peaceful. Thein Sein released political prisoners, relaxed media controls, and forged peace with ethnic rebel groups along the country's war-torn borders. A new air of hope and bustle in Myanmar's towns and cities is palpable.

    But not in Rakhine, also known as Arakan. It is home to about 800,000 mostly stateless Rohingya, who according to the United Nations are subject to many forms of "persecution, discrimination and exploitation." These include forced labor, land confiscations, restrictions on travel and limited access to jobs, education and healthcare.

    Now, even as the state eases repression of the general populace and other minorities, long-simmering ethnic tensions here are on the boil - a dynamic that resembles what happened when multi-ethnic Yugoslavia fractured a generation ago after communism fell.

    SUU KYI 'TIGHT-LIPPED'

    Even the democracy movement in Myanmar is doing little to help the Muslim minority, Rohingya politicians say.

    Democracy icon Aung San Suu Kyi last week urged "all people in Burma to get along with each other regardless of their religion and authenticity." But she has remained "tight-lipped" about the Rohingya, said Kyaw Min, a Rohingya leader and one-time Suu Kyi ally who spent more than seven years as a political prisoner. "It is politically risky for her," he said.

    NLD spokesman Nyan Win wouldn't comment on Suu Kyi's position, but said: "The Rohingya are not our citizens." Suu Kyi is now on a European tour that will take her to Oslo, Norway, to accept the Nobel Peace Prize she won in 1991.

    The violence could disrupt Myanmar's detente with the West, however. U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton on June 11 called for "Muslims, Buddhists, and ethnic representatives, including Rohingya . . . to begin a dialogue toward a peaceful resolution."

    The United States suspended some sanctions on Myanmar, including those banning investment, in May as a reward for its democratic reforms. But the White House kept the framework of hard-hitting sanctions in place, with President Barack Obama expressing at the time concern about Myanmar's "treatment of minorities and detention of political prisoners."

    The European Union, which also suspended its sanctions, said on Monday it was satisfied with Thein Sein's "measured" handling of the violence, which the president has said could threaten the transition to democracy if allowed to spiral out of control.

    ILLEGAL MIGRANTS

    Rohingya activists claim a centuries-old lineage in Rakhine, which like the rest of Burma is predominantly Buddhist. The government regards them as illegal migrants from neighboring Bangladesh and denies them citizenship. "There is no ethnic group named Rohingya in our country," immigration minister Khin Yi said in May.

    Communal tensions had been rising in Myanmar since the gang rape and murder of a Buddhist woman last month that was blamed on Muslims. Six days later, apparently in retribution, a Buddhist mob dragged 10 Muslims from a bus and beat them to death.

    Violence then erupted on June 9 in Maungdaw, one of the three Rohingya-majority districts bordering Bangladesh, before spreading to Sittwe, the biggest town in Rakhine. Scores are feared dead, and 1,600 houses burnt down.

    One measure of the pressure the Rohingya are under is the growing number of boat people. During the so-called "sailing season" between monsoons, thousands of Rohingya attempt to cross the Bay of Bengal in small, ramshackle fishing boats. Their destination: Muslim-majority Malaysia, where thousands of Rohingya work, mostly illegally.

    Last season, up to 8,000 Rohingya boat people - a record number - made the crossing, says Chris Lewa, director of the Arakan Project, a Rohingya advocacy group based in Thailand. She has studied their migration patterns since 2006.

    BANNED IN BANGLADESH

    The violence in Rakhine could cause a surge in Rohingya boat people when the next sailing season begins in October, Rohingya leaders say. "The amount of boat people will increase and increase," said Abu Tahay, chairman of the National Democratic Party for Development, a Rohingya political party.

    In what could be the start of a regional refugee crisis, many Rohingya are already attempting the shorter voyage to neighboring Bangladesh.

    Bangladesh, like Myanmar, disowns the Rohingyas and has refused to grant them refugee status since 1992. Now, according to a Bangladeshi commander, hundreds have been turned away.

    At Shah Pari, a Bangladeshi island on the Naf River dividing Bangladesh and Myanmar, Lieutenant Colonel Zahid Hassan of the Bangladesh Border Guard said the force has sent back 14 wooden country boats since the violence flared in early June, bearing a total of some 700 men, women and children.

    Hassan said the boat people were given food, water and medicines before being turned back. His men are now holding back local Bangladeshi villagers and limiting how far fishermen can go out into the river to prevent them from helping would-be "illegal intruders." Peace has been restored since Myanmar imposed its state of emergency, he said, and his men are telling the boat people it is safe to return.

    Asked to explain why majority-Muslim Bangladesh did not feel an obligation to take the Rohingyas in, he said: "This is an over-populated country. The country doesn't have the capacity to accommodate these additional people."

    WAITING FOR DEMOCRACY

    Government officials say they already harbor about 25,000 Rohingyas with refugee status, who receive food and other aid from the United Nations, housed in two camps in southeastern Bangladesh. Officials say there are also between 200,000 and 300,000 "undocumented" Rohingyas - with no refugee status and no legal rights. These people live outside the camps, dependent on local Bangladeshis in a poverty-plagued district for work and sustenance.

    Among them is 48-year-old Kalim Ullah, a Rohingya father of three living in an unofficial camp where children bathe in a chocolate-brown pond. He fled here in 1992, after violence that followed the watershed 1990 vote won by Suu Kyi and overturned by the military. He holds up a hand to show a half-stump where his thumb had been before he says it was shot off by a Myanmar soldier.

    "They tortured me and I was evicted from my house so we came to Bangladesh," he said. "Now I am waiting for repatriation, I am waiting for democracy in my own country."

    Myanmar's neighbors have quietly pressed the country to improve conditions in Rakhine to stop the outflow of refugees. Perhaps as a result, Thein Sein's government this year began easing some travel restrictions, says Rohingya leader Kyaw Min. But these small gains look likely to be suspended or scrapped after the recent bloodshed.

    The Rohingya in Myanmar are usually landless as well as stateless, and scratch a living from low-paid casual labor. Four in five households in northern Rakhine State were in debt, the World Food Program reported in 2011. Many families borrow money just to buy food.

    Food insecurity had worsened since 2009, said the program, which called for urgent humanitarian assistance. A 2010 survey by the French group Action Against Hunger found a malnutrition rate of 20 percent, which is far above the emergency threshold set by the World Health Organization.

    UNDER THE 'NASAKA'

    The Rohingya are overseen by the Border Administration Force, better known as the Nasaka, a word derived from the initials of its Burmese name. Unique to the region, the Nasaka consists of officers from the police, military, customs and immigration. They control every aspect of Rohingya life.

    "They have total power," says Abu Tahay, the Rohingya politician.

    Documented human-rights abuses blamed on the Nasaka include rape, forced labor and extortion. Rohingya cannot travel or marry without the Nasaka's permission, which is never secured without paying bribes, activists say.

    The former military government has in the past called these allegations "fabrications."

    "There are hundreds of restrictions and extortions," says Rohingya leader Kyaw Min. "The Nasaka have a free hand because government policy is behind them. And that policy is to starve and impoverish the Rohingya."

    Burmese officials say the tight controls on the borders are essential to national security. Speaking in Myanmar's parliament last September, immigration minister Khin Yi made no mention of alleged abuses, but said the Nasaka was vital for preventing "illegal Bengali migration" and cross-border crime.

    'ANNIHILATE THEM'

    At Takebi's market, an agitated crowd gathered before the violence erupted to tell a reporter of alleged abuses by the authorities and ethnic Rakhine: a Rohingya rickshaw driver robbed and murdered, extortion by state officials, random beatings by soldiers at a nearby army post. The stories couldn't be verified.

    Some Burmese officials have betrayed bias against the Rohingya in public statements. Rohingya people are "dark brown" and "as ugly as ogres," said Ye Myint Aung, Myanmar's consul in Hong Kong, in a 2009 statement. He went on to extol the "fair and soft" complexions of Myanmar people like himself.

    Last week, the state-run New Light of Myanmar published a correction after referring to Muslims as "kalar," a racial slur.

    The sectarian hatred in Rakhine towns and villages is echoed online. "It would be so good if we can use this as an excuse to drive those Rohingyas from Myanmar," one reader of Myanmar's Weekly Eleven newspaper comments on the paper's website.

    "Annihilate them," writes another.

    A nationalist group has set up a Facebook page called the "Kalar Beheading Gang," which has almost 600 "likes."

    Meanwhile, the Kaladan Press, a news agency set up by Rohingya exiles in the Bangladesh city of Chittagong, blamed the violence on "Rakhine racists and security personnel."

    BOUND FOR MALAYSIA

    Not far from Sittwe is Gollyadeil, a fishing village with a jetty of packed mud and a mosque that locals say dates back to the 1930s. The stateless Rohingya villagers here face fewer restrictions than their brethren in the sensitive border area to the north. They can marry without seeking official permission and travel freely around Sittwe district.

    Even so, jobs are scarce and access to education limited, and every year up to 40 villagers head out to sea on Malaysia-bound boats. They each pay about 200,000 kyat, or $250, a small fortune by local standards. But the extended Rohingya families who raise the sum regard it as an investment.

    "If they make it to Malaysia, they can send home a lot of money," says fishmonger Abdul Gafar, 35.

    Many Rohingya in Myanmar depend upon remittances from Malaysia and Thailand. A Takebi elder with a white beard tinged red from betel-nut juice said he gets 100,000 kyat ($125) every four months from his son, a construction worker in Malaysia.

    Remittances have lent a deceptive veneer of prosperity to Takebi, where a few houses have tin roofs or satellite dishes.

    Ask shopkeeper Mohamad Ayub, 19, how many villagers want to leave Gollyadeil, and he replies, "All of us."

    For every Rohingya who makes it to Malaysia, hundreds are blocked, or worse.

    Many are arrested before even leaving Myanmar waters. Others are intercepted by the Thai authorities, who last year were still towing Rohingya boats back out to sea, Human Rights Watch reported, "despite allegations that such practices led to hundreds of deaths in 2008 and 2009."

    "When someone tries to enter the country illegally, it's our job to send them back," says Major General Manas Kongpan, a regional director of Thailand's Internal Security Operations Command, which handles the boat people. "Thailand doesn't have the capacity to take them in, so people shouldn't criticize so much."

    Sayadul Amin, 16, set sail in March 2012 in a fishing boat crammed with 63 people, a third of them boys and girls. The weather turned bad, and Sayudul's boat was pounded by waves.

    "I felt dizzy and wanted to throw up," he said.

    By day five, they ran out of water and his friend, also a teenager, died. They prayed over his body, he said, then tossed it overboard.

    THE UNCOUNTED

    The boat eventually ran aground somewhere on Myanmar's Andaman coast, where local villagers summoned the authorities to arrest the boat people.

    The adults were jailed in the southern Myanmar town of Dawei, while immigration officials escorted Sayadul and the other minors back to Sittwe by bus. The journey took several days and he saw more of Myanmar than most Rohingya ever do. "There were satellite dishes on all the houses," he said with wonder.

    On her historic visit to Myanmar last year, Hillary Clinton praised the country's leaders for trying to resolve decades-old wars between government troops and ethnic rebel armies. But the Rohingya stir far greater nationalist passions that could prove even more destabilizing and intractable than conflicts in Kachin State and other ethnic border regions.

    Rohingya leaders have long called for the scrapping of the 1982 Citizenship Law, which was enacted by the former dictatorship and rendered stateless even Rohingya who had lived in Myanmar for generations.

    "We are demanding full and equal citizenship," says Kyaw Min, the Rohingya leader.

    Judging by the inflammatory rhetoric pervading Myanmar, that demand is unlikely to be met before next year's potentially controversial census.

    The last one, in 1983, left the Rohingya uncounted.

    (Additional reporting John Chalmers in Shah Pari, Bangladesh. Editing by Bill Tarrant and Michael Williams)


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    Killing of anyone is bad enough but why is the OP sensationalizing this? I didn't see the word 'genocide' mentioned anywhere except in his headline! Or am I missing something here?
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    Oh so now what? Wage jihad against Burma?

    Come on people! You guys really need to stop obsessing yourselves with religion.
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    Dear OP, we've our own problems, right here in Pakistan (Hazaras being butchered, Ahmedis being lynched, Christians being whipped, Hindus being burnt).

    Why does every tom, dick and harry from Pakistan, wants to become the savior of a particular race of Muslims from all over?

    I heard that some Muslims are being massacred in the galaxy Andromeda: Any views or feelings on that?

    You obviously have too much free-time on your hands, why not go and do some social work, and yes that would be to go and help Mr. Edhi, the only decent humanitarian that I know of.
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    oh i am sorry i think i shouldn't post the plight of Muslims in burma! however, plight of ahmedis in pakistan makes all indians go into over drive!

    weird hypocrisy here! minorities in Pakistan matter! but killing of muslims elsewhere in the WORLD doesn't!

    very nice way of looking at it truly a tunneled vision and hypocrisy of the extreme level!

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    Hazara, Shias, Taliban haters are all non-muslims?

    You're due for an immediate neural check-up.

    What I implied in my post was, bring out the double-dealing nature of us, right here in Pakistan. You'll become my favorite poster!

    Quote Originally Posted by ice_man View Post
    oh i am sorry i think i shouldn't post the plight of Muslims in burma! however, plight of ahmedis in pakistan makes all indians go into over drive!

    weird hypocrisy here! minorities in Pakistan matter! but killing of muslims elsewhere in the WORLD doesn't!

    very nice way of looking at it truly a tunneled vision and hypocrisy of the extreme level!
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    However the source of plight of both Pakistan and Burma is India.

    India supplies land mines to kill Burma Muslims.

    In Pakistan the ghost of TTP is a product of RAW & RAMA.

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    @Hyperion No one is talking of doing anything about it. However i do see no evil in highlighting the issue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyperion View Post
    Hazara, Shias, Taliban haters are all non-muslims?

    You're due for an immediate neural check-up.

    What I implied in my post was, bring out the double-dealing nature of us, right here in Pakistan. You'll become my favorite poster!
    Aryan_C why are you discussing off topic issues?

    If you want to discuss other things than discuss them in relevant thread.

    I also see you have been using disrespecting words for Pakistani members.
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    Mate, I get it. I'm just trying my best that we focus on what is going on, right here in our backyard

    I had a business partner, god rest his soul, he used to smack me right in the back of my head whenever I used to loose focus.

    Just a focus exercise

    Quote Originally Posted by Aeronaut View Post
    @Hyperion No one is talking of doing anything about it. However i do see no evil in highlighting the issue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyperion View Post
    Mate, I get it. I'm just trying my best that we focus on what is going on, right here in our background.

    I had a business partner, god rest his soul, he used to smack me right in the back of my head whenever I used to loose focus.

    Just a focus exercise
    highlighting such issues is GOOD! it is NECESSARY!

    when the world asks why do muslims become sucidie bombers?

    answer is:

    BOSNIA MASSACRE, BURMA GENOCIDE, CHECHNYAN GENOCIDE, ISRAEL ILLEGAL SETTLEMENT

    helps you "focus!" on why muslims hit back ofcourse if their families in certain countries are wiped out they become terrorists and sucide bombers and all
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    Quote Originally Posted by BATMAN View Post
    However the source of plight of both Pakistan and Burma is India.

    India supplies land mines to kill Burma Muslims.

    In Pakistan the ghost of TTP is a product of RAW & RAMA.
    Goodness gracious me! Batman, I thought you could do better than this. This post of yours was uncalled for. You'll now start blaming India for Zardari's constipation!

    And what has RAMA got to do with this? You would have switched on your afterburners if an Indian had mentioned......Oh well, you get what I mean. Invoking Gods and prophets is a bad idea. It hurts the sentiments of most ordinary mortals.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyperion View Post
    Buddy, kindly let it go. It's a very sensitive topic for us.
    ok i deleted my post and i apologise if i posted something wrong but i swear i didn't wanted to offend yourl
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    Quote Originally Posted by OrionHunter View Post
    Goodness gracious me! Batman, I thought you could do better than this. This post of yours was uncalled for. You'll now start blaming India for Zardari's constipation!

    And what has RAMA got to do with this? You would have switched on your afterburners if an Indian had mentioned......Oh well, you get what I mean. Invoking Gods and prophets is a bad idea. It hurts the sentiments of most ordinary mortals.
    You are a troll, Research and Analysis Milli Afghan = RAMA

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    THANK YOU to the op

    this is a world affair rightly said

    Hippocrats like ahmedis will allways hate

    Muslims are like a single body u hurt one the other will feel it and react to it appropriately

    cowardly acts like these which promoted groups like qaida and taliban

    Burma has a history of Human right abuse sply with Muslims


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