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    Quote Originally Posted by Alfa-Fighter View Post
    Suppressed form getting justice , controlled their worship places , who control Sikh body? (Pak Govt.)

    Will you allow Pork to be served in PAK?
    You can buy the meat in Karachi.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Developereo View Post
    No, bottom line is that Indians are defending anti-Muslim discrimination yet again and turning every thread into a China-bashing and Muslim-bashing session. Whatever frustrations you guys have with China, we really don't care to be dragged into your obsession.
    Pakistani being protective of China....so cute.

    Quote Originally Posted by Developereo View Post
    As for France, I already explained about truth in advertising. If France declared itself a Christian Republic, they could enact all sorts of laws, like the Vatican, and no one could accuse them of hypocrisy.
    Franche does not need to explain its 'secularism' to people who dont believe in it themselves. FULL STOP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Developereo View Post
    No, bottom line is that Indians are defending anti-Muslim discrimination yet again and turning every thread into a China-bashing session. Whatever frustrations you guys have with China, we really don't care to be dragged into your obsession.
    Are you really questioning the secularism in France based on couple of isolated incidents?

    As far as shedding tags are concerned, Pakistan should drop the Islamic tag too? No country is perfect, the tags are what the countries want to be, some get close to achieving it some don't. France is trying to be secular, India a secular democracy, Pakistan an Islamic Republic, but none of them fit the text book definition.
    Last edited by Roybot; 08-01-2012 at 09:52 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Developereo View Post
    No, bottom line is that Indians are defending anti-Muslim discrimination yet again and turning every thread into a China-bashing and Muslim-bashing session. Whatever frustrations you guys have with China, we really don't care to be dragged into your obsession.

    As usual, the Indian troll brigade derails every thread with their anti-Muslim, anti-China obsession.

    As for France, I already explained about truth in advertising. If France declared itself a Christian Republic, they could enact all sorts of laws, like the Vatican, and no one could accuse them of hypocrisy.
    so according to you this is only a matter of hyppocracy

    one govt can do any kind of injustice .. they just need to announce it legally.

    and you did did not respond to many things I asked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bhairava View Post
    Pakistani being protective of China....so cute.
    Indians brought China into this discussion and wanted to know why it is different from France. We explained it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bhairava View Post
    Franche does not need to explain its 'secularism' to people who dont believe in it themselves. FULL STOP.
    It certainly does. If the deeds don't match the words, then hypocrisy is exposed.

    Quote Originally Posted by Roybot View Post
    Are you really questioning the secularism in France based on couple of isolated incidents?
    We are pointing out that this action by an official French govt. body does not mesh with the stated goal of secularism. The other issues have been discussed in other threads.

    Quote Originally Posted by Agnostic_Indian View Post
    so according to you this is only a matter of hyppocracy

    one govt can do any kind of injustice .. they just need to announce it legally.
    Once again, it's about truth in advertising.

    When someone goes to Vatican City, they know it has Christian laws. When someone goes to KSA, they know it has Muslim laws. France claims its laws are religion-agnostic, hence it will be held to that claim.

    Quote Originally Posted by Agnostic_Indian View Post
    and you did did not respond to many things I asked.
    I replied to the part that was relevant to the topic at hand, i.e. the action in France.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bhairava View Post
    Pakistani being protective of China....so cute.
    FULL STOP.
    Even better prettiness shows up when you see an Indian being protective of France or anything that has potential to produce a room for bashing Pakistanis.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Emmie View Post
    Even better prettiness shows up when you see an Indian being protective of France or anything that has potential to produce a room for bashing Pakistanis.
    Indians are being protective of France, because we face similar tirade from you guys.

    I mean all it takes is one or two isolated incidents and suddenly everything else which are shining examples of secularism don't count. France has around 2000 Mosques, if thats not a proof enough of secularism then I don't know what is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roybot View Post
    Indians are being protective of France, because we face similar tirade from you guys.

    I mean all it takes is one or two isolated incidents and suddenly everything else which are shining examples of secularism don't count. France has around 2000 Mosques, if thats not a proof enough of secularism then I don't know what is.
    It doesn't matter anything if there is just one single incident against any community. Negative word of mouth propagates and accepted too rapidly than positive one......Its a sociological phenomenon proved by many theories and history.

    Going by the trend on this forum, local news are discussed too much by everyone than the more generalized and broader subject.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roybot View Post
    if thats not a proof enough of secularism then I don't know what is.
    On a lighter note, declare France as an Islamic Jamhoooriya and then it might take a step in the right direction towards being regarded as 'secular' by these Pakistanis.

    And ironically, none of crowd here screaming murder believes even remotely in the concept of secularism...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Developereo View Post
    We are pointing out that this action by an official French govt. body does not mesh with the stated goal of secularism. The other issues have been discussed in other threads.
    Perhaps important to point out that it was a communist run local council, not the French Government. Bodes well with the principles of Communism? If communist China banning fasting in Xinjiang is not outrageous then why is this?

    Besides if French Muslims feel that they have been wronged, the French consititution gives them the right to challenge and protest against it. That in my opinion is more important, laws to uphold secularism.

    The Communist council did something wrong, Muslims protested, corrective measures taken and secularism upheld. Thats how things work.

    Just like you can't guarantee every citizen that you will not be robbed or murdered by some criminal, similarly you can't guarantee that every step, measure taken by everyone in France is going to be secular in nature. What you can guarantee is that, if you are killed or robbed or discriminated because of your religion, then there are laws in place to give you justice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KRAIT View Post
    When KSA punishes a man for worshiping Buddha statue, no one utters a bad word against them and here if french do something with any logic, call it twisted or logical according to your perception, all hell breaks loose.

    Am I the only one seeing the hypocrisy ?

    "Its their country, they can do whatever they want" isn't it the lines people oftenly use in this forum ?
    I will wait and see if India ever says anything against KSA, next day all hungry indians will leave not only KSA but the entire gulf region

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    Quote Originally Posted by Developereo View Post
    Indians brought China into this discussion and wanted to know why it is different from France. We explained it.
    You did not explain it. Just skirted it. and ironically the answer given was "their country their rules".


    Quote Originally Posted by Developereo View Post
    It certainly does. If the deeds don't match the words, then hypocrisy is exposed.
    As many have said, a serial rapist does not have the moral ground to criticize an eve-teaser. Get the drift ?

    People who dont believe in secularism themselves dont have a ground to complain regarding such 'perceived' denial to them.

    Quote Originally Posted by xyxmt View Post
    I will wait and see if India ever says anything against KSA, next day all hungry indians will leave not only KSA but the entire gulf region
    Hey mate...What effin part of "their country, their rules" you did not understand ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by xyxmt View Post
    I will wait and see if India ever says anything against KSA, next day all hungry indians will leave not only KSA but the entire gulf region
    I am talking about behavior of posters on this forum , not policies and rules of KSA or Timbaktu. Try to understand the statement or refrain from replying just to object the issue for sake of objecting anything an Indian says.

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    i see the same restrictions are not placed on other chinese hui muslims, and just uighyer muslims, you should read the news properly, its been placed amid the clashes between government and yigher liberations matter, nothing to do with prohibiting the religious practice

    the news also seem to be cooked up in certain parts

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    Quote Originally Posted by get straight View Post
    i see the same restrictions are not placed on other chinese hui muslims, and just uighyer muslims, you should read the news properly, its been placed amid the clashes between government and yigher liberations matter, nothing to do with prohibiting the religious practice

    the news also seem to be cooked up in certain parts
    Wow now only if we saw the same rationality and vast range of benefit of doubts from you guys when it came to Muslim issues in India and other secular democracies!

    This hypocrisy in the name of Islam is very distasteful to be honest. You guys should stop using religion as a strategic tool, give your religion the respect it deserves.
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