Barbaric Gujrat Massacre - The Truth Behind The Story

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Durran3 · 06-01-2009, 08:53 AM

Thanks for the links.. these are truly, heart wrenching events... i have to see all the videos you posted though

ejaz007 · 09-10-2009, 10:18 AM

Ex-police officer spills the beans on Gujarat riots

* Says BJP’s Hindutva mascot CM Narendra Modi was involved in high-level conspiracy against Muslim minority

By Iftikhar Gilani

NEW DELHI: A retired top Indian police officer has thrown new light on the 2002 anti-Muslim genocide in western state of Gujarat. In a lengthy letter to the Supreme Court-appointed Special Investigation Team (SIT) headed by former Central Bureau of Investigation (CBI) chief RK Raghavan, Jaspal Singh, also a former minister has asked for a probe into official records of communications and meetings.

He said these would establish BJP’s Hindutva mascot Chief Minister Narendra Modi’s hand in the anti-Muslim riots. Singh has also demanded interrogation of Modi on what instructions he gave during the riots and subsequently and whether he noticed any acts of omission or commission by the officers, and if so, what action he had initiated to correct the system and discipline those who flouted their duties. Since government functionaries who collaborated in executing the anti-minority violence would refuse to provide relevant evidence, Jaspal Singh wants the SIT to run through documentary evidences on government and police records and then confront them with forensic tests.

He says such a probe would bring out that “the mayhem in Gujarat was the result of a thoroughly thought-out elaborate and heinous strategy to communalise the society at large in Gujarat, with a view to derive political benefits”. Information coming from Jaspal Singh, who has been the city’s police commissioner and then the mayor, is quite revealing as he himself once flirted with the BJP, more so when he claims the 2002 carnage helped the Sangh Parivar achieve “their ever-pursued hidden agenda of treating the Muslim minority as second
class citizens”.

Giving details of documentary evidences that would spill the beans, he said, “SIT should go into the series of circumstances indicating criminal motive of the CM Gujarat and his collaborators in projecting the Godhra train fire incident as an outcome of conspiracy by ISI and a terrorist act.” Jaspal claimed a meeting chaired by Modi on February 27, 2002 was the “starting point of anti-minority carnage” and the motivated declaration of ISI hand in the train fire was a part of the larger conspiracy to perpetuate genocidal crimes against the minority for political consolidation of the majority community in favour of BJP.

He has urged the SIT to check the minutes of the crucial meeting chaired by Modi on the day of the Godhra train fire, and interrogate the ministers and eight officers who attended the meeting. Jaspal Singh has also demanded interrogation of Rajendra Kumar, the then CBI joint director incharge of Gujarat, who insisted on the state DGP to deem the burning of train at Godhra as a terrorist act mounted by the ISI.

Daily Times - Leading News Resource of Pakistan

fardaush · 10-28-2009, 12:26 AM

They get power after all most 1000 year. And they're using this power to murder by their brother. The Muslim who live in India are they not Indian? I know Indian people are very much emotional people. So their leader can use them very easily.

Halaku Khan · 11-17-2009, 06:07 PM

The death of even a single innocent person is a tragedy for which the perpetrators should be punished.

But there are many motivated and deeply dishonest people in India and abroad who are engaged in viciously spreading falsehoods about that sad incident.

Films of this sort should not be allowed to get away with false propaganda. It is only fair that the other side be given a hearing. Here are a number of links:

Myths of Gujarat Riots

Myth 1: 2,000 Muslims were killed in the Gujarat riots

Myth 2: Muslims were ‘butchered’ in Gujarat

Myth 3: Whole of Gujarat was burning

Myth 4: The Gujarat police turned a blind eye to the rioting

Myth 5: Gujarat police was anti-Muslim

Myth 6: Gujarat riots were the ‘worst ever massacre’ in India

Myth 7: Only Muslims were rendered homeless and suffered economically

Myth 8: The Gujarat government was involved in the riots

Myth 9: Gujarat riots were like the 1984 anti-Sikh riots

Myth 10: Gujarat became a dangerous place to live in, in 2002

Myth 11: In Ehsan Jafri case, women were raped

Myth 12: The photo of Qutubuddin Ansari is genuine

Myth 13: Narendra Modi said:”Every action has equal and opposite reaction”

Myth 14: Sangh Parivar organizations like VHP organized the riots

Myth 15: Narendra Modi gave free hand to rioters for 3 days

arihant · 11-17-2009, 06:10 PM

People are forgetting that all incident happen due to Godra train burning. All are playing politics.

I know one muslim family having business in our area. He like Narendra Modi's development chart. Surely not all muslim like because of spread of lie.

rpraveenkum · 11-17-2009, 06:15 PM

^^^ I bet nobody click & read the full stuff.

Halaku Khan · 11-17-2009, 06:19 PM

About Tehelka's so-called sting operation:

Tehelka lies | Gujarat Riots: The True Story

**Jana** · 11-17-2009, 07:57 PM

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EjazR · 01-25-2010, 07:51 PM

Using some non-authoritative website on the internet to justify or deny the Gujarat violence is actually disgusting to say the least. The lack of justice after the attacks even more so.

It took the supreme court to take up the matter and direct the case outside of Gujarat to begin getting convictions. If Gujarat govt. was innocent, why was no justice served straight away? Because the SC had to intervene shows the attitude of the govt. Lets not forget the before 2002 riots almost all analysts has declared that BJP was set to loose the coming elections because of their non-perforance in the past two terms. Even the 8 by polls held six months bfore was won by non-BJP parties.

Now because of the SC appointed SIT, even ministers have been arrested. Even now the Gujarat govt. continues to put roadblocks for people to receive justice by denying documents and records. People should have more trust and believe the Supreme court and HC as well as the national dailies that covered the event rather than some made up internet site that clearly has an agenda of blaming the victims and interesting the Congress.

Well at least the Congress has publicly apologized for their sikh riots and even have a sikh PM. When can we expect Modi and BJP to do the same, or atleast apologise for it?

EjazR · 01-25-2010, 07:51 PM

The Hindu : Front Page : Hand over all documents to SIT, Gujarat told

NEW DELHI: The Supreme Court on Tuesday asked the Gujarat government to hand over to the Special Investigation Team all documents, including a copy of the alleged communal speech by Chief Minister Narendra Modi, for further investigation of the Godhra and post-Godhra riot cases.

A three-judge Bench gave this directive after Solicitor-General Gopal Subramaniam submitted that SIT chief R.K. Raghavan had said the government was not cooperating with the team.

The Bench perused an interim report submitted by the SIT in a sealed cover. One of the 14 documents the SIT sought pertained to Mr. Modi’s speech, said to be inflammatory.

Gujarat’s Additional Advocate-General Tushar Mehta contended that the Chief Minister’s speech was delivered months after the riots, and it had nothing to do with the SIT investigation. The speech, he said, was in no way relevant to the conspiracy complaint made by Zakia Jafri, wife of Ehsan Jafri, who was killed in the Gulberg society carnage.

It was beyond the scope of the SIT to seek a copy of this speech, Mr. Mehta said. At this, Justice D.K. Jain said: “We are issuing the directions, and if you fail to comply with them, you will have to tell the reasons and then the court will deal with it accordingly.”

Justice P. Sathasivam told Mr. Mehta that there was a lot of correspondence between the SIT and the government, but there was no proper response from the government.

When Mr. Mehta said the State had already given documents running into14,000 pages, Justice Jain said: “We are not on the number of pages. We want your response about the 14 documents asked from you. Hand over all vital documents to the SIT.”

Justice Aftab Alam read out excerpts from the SIT interim report, pointing out that the court-appointed team wrote letters, seeking 14 documents, on September 15, October 31 and December 19 last but the government took no action. When Mr. Mehta said he should be given time to file his comments, Justice Jain said: “We don’t want your comments. We direct you to supply all the documents sought by the SIT.”

The court directed that the matter be listed for February 9 to take up the applications seeking the reconstitution of the SIT in the wake of the recent judgment in the Sohrabuddin Sheikh encounter case. The Citizens for Justice and Peace sought removal of IGP Geetha Johri, IGP Shivanand Jha and another senior officer Ashish Bhatia.

Amicus curiae Harish Salve asked the court not to give any direction to shift these officers, as such an order would be hurting. He had a telephonic conversation with Mr. Raghvan, who said things would likely be sorted out without the court’s intervention.

Declining a request for five months’ time, the Bench asked the SIT to submit its report by April 30.

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Durran3 FULL MEMBERS Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Pakistan Posts: 752 Countries: Thanks: 1,362 Thanked 671 Times in 301 Posts	Re: Barbaric Gujrat Massacre - The Truth Behind The Story Thanks for the links.. these are truly, heart wrenching events... i have to see all the videos you posted though
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ejaz007 SENIOR MEMBERS Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: House Posts: 3,408 Countries: Thanks: 122 Thanked 724 Times in 468 Posts	Re: Barbaric Gujrat Massacre - The Truth Behind The Story Ex-police officer spills the beans on Gujarat riots * Says BJP’s Hindutva mascot CM Narendra Modi was involved in high-level conspiracy against Muslim minority By Iftikhar Gilani NEW DELHI: A retired top Indian police officer has thrown new light on the 2002 anti-Muslim genocide in western state of Gujarat. In a lengthy letter to the Supreme Court-appointed Special Investigation Team (SIT) headed by former Central Bureau of Investigation (CBI) chief RK Raghavan, Jaspal Singh, also a former minister has asked for a probe into official records of communications and meetings. He said these would establish BJP’s Hindutva mascot Chief Minister Narendra Modi’s hand in the anti-Muslim riots. Singh has also demanded interrogation of Modi on what instructions he gave during the riots and subsequently and whether he noticed any acts of omission or commission by the officers, and if so, what action he had initiated to correct the system and discipline those who flouted their duties. Since government functionaries who collaborated in executing the anti-minority violence would refuse to provide relevant evidence, Jaspal Singh wants the SIT to run through documentary evidences on government and police records and then confront them with forensic tests. He says such a probe would bring out that “the mayhem in Gujarat was the result of a thoroughly thought-out elaborate and heinous strategy to communalise the society at large in Gujarat, with a view to derive political benefits”. Information coming from Jaspal Singh, who has been the city’s police commissioner and then the mayor, is quite revealing as he himself once flirted with the BJP, more so when he claims the 2002 carnage helped the Sangh Parivar achieve “their ever-pursued hidden agenda of treating the Muslim minority as second class citizens”. Giving details of documentary evidences that would spill the beans, he said, “SIT should go into the series of circumstances indicating criminal motive of the CM Gujarat and his collaborators in projecting the Godhra train fire incident as an outcome of conspiracy by ISI and a terrorist act.” Jaspal claimed a meeting chaired by Modi on February 27, 2002 was the “starting point of anti-minority carnage” and the motivated declaration of ISI hand in the train fire was a part of the larger conspiracy to perpetuate genocidal crimes against the minority for political consolidation of the majority community in favour of BJP. He has urged the SIT to check the minutes of the crucial meeting chaired by Modi on the day of the Godhra train fire, and interrogate the ministers and eight officers who attended the meeting. Jaspal Singh has also demanded interrogation of Rajendra Kumar, the then CBI joint director incharge of Gujarat, who insisted on the state DGP to deem the burning of train at Godhra as a terrorist act mounted by the ISI. Daily Times - Leading News Resource of Pakistan

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fardaush FULL MEMBERS Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: dhaka Posts: 20 Countries: Thanks: 23 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Barbaric Gujrat Massacre - The Truth Behind The Story They get power after all most 1000 year. And they're using this power to murder by their brother. The Muslim who live in India are they not Indian? I know Indian people are very much emotional people. So their leader can use them very easily.

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Halaku Khan Banned Members Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: planet earth Posts: 695 Countries: Thanks: 60 Thanked 317 Times in 169 Posts	Re: Barbaric Gujrat Massacre - The Truth Behind The Story The death of even a single innocent person is a tragedy for which the perpetrators should be punished. But there are many motivated and deeply dishonest people in India and abroad who are engaged in viciously spreading falsehoods about that sad incident. Films of this sort should not be allowed to get away with false propaganda. It is only fair that the other side be given a hearing. Here are a number of links: Myths of Gujarat Riots Myth 1: 2,000 Muslims were killed in the Gujarat riots Myth 2: Muslims were ‘butchered’ in Gujarat Myth 3: Whole of Gujarat was burning Myth 4: The Gujarat police turned a blind eye to the rioting Myth 5: Gujarat police was anti-Muslim Myth 6: Gujarat riots were the ‘worst ever massacre’ in India Myth 7: Only Muslims were rendered homeless and suffered economically Myth 8: The Gujarat government was involved in the riots Myth 9: Gujarat riots were like the 1984 anti-Sikh riots Myth 10: Gujarat became a dangerous place to live in, in 2002 Myth 11: In Ehsan Jafri case, women were raped Myth 12: The photo of Qutubuddin Ansari is genuine Myth 13: Narendra Modi said:”Every action has equal and opposite reaction” Myth 14: Sangh Parivar organizations like VHP organized the riots Myth 15: Narendra Modi gave free hand to rioters for 3 days

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arihant SENIOR MEMBERS Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: India Posts: 1,021 Countries: Thanks: 153 Thanked 226 Times in 149 Posts	Re: Barbaric Gujrat Massacre - The Truth Behind The Story People are forgetting that all incident happen due to Godra train burning. All are playing politics. I know one muslim family having business in our area. He like Narendra Modi's development chart. Surely not all muslim like because of spread of lie.
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Halaku Khan Banned Members Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: planet earth Posts: 695 Countries: Thanks: 60 Thanked 317 Times in 169 Posts	Re: Barbaric Gujrat Massacre - The Truth Behind The Story About Tehelka's so-called sting operation: Tehelka lies \| Gujarat Riots: The True Story

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EjazR SENIOR MEMBERS Join Date: May 2009 Location: Melbourne Posts: 3,046 Countries: Thanks: 620 Thanked 2,582 Times in 1,067 Posts	Re: Barbaric Gujrat Massacre - The Truth Behind The Story Using some non-authoritative website on the internet to justify or deny the Gujarat violence is actually disgusting to say the least. The lack of justice after the attacks even more so. It took the supreme court to take up the matter and direct the case outside of Gujarat to begin getting convictions. If Gujarat govt. was innocent, why was no justice served straight away? Because the SC had to intervene shows the attitude of the govt. Lets not forget the before 2002 riots almost all analysts has declared that BJP was set to loose the coming elections because of their non-perforance in the past two terms. Even the 8 by polls held six months bfore was won by non-BJP parties. Now because of the SC appointed SIT, even ministers have been arrested. Even now the Gujarat govt. continues to put roadblocks for people to receive justice by denying documents and records. People should have more trust and believe the Supreme court and HC as well as the national dailies that covered the event rather than some made up internet site that clearly has an agenda of blaming the victims and interesting the Congress. Well at least the Congress has publicly apologized for their sikh riots and even have a sikh PM. When can we expect Modi and BJP to do the same, or atleast apologise for it?

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EjazR SENIOR MEMBERS Join Date: May 2009 Location: Melbourne Posts: 3,046 Countries: Thanks: 620 Thanked 2,582 Times in 1,067 Posts	Re: Barbaric Gujrat Massacre - The Truth Behind The Story The Hindu : Front Page : Hand over all documents to SIT, Gujarat told NEW DELHI: The Supreme Court on Tuesday asked the Gujarat government to hand over to the Special Investigation Team all documents, including a copy of the alleged communal speech by Chief Minister Narendra Modi, for further investigation of the Godhra and post-Godhra riot cases. A three-judge Bench gave this directive after Solicitor-General Gopal Subramaniam submitted that SIT chief R.K. Raghavan had said the government was not cooperating with the team. The Bench perused an interim report submitted by the SIT in a sealed cover. One of the 14 documents the SIT sought pertained to Mr. Modi’s speech, said to be inflammatory. Gujarat’s Additional Advocate-General Tushar Mehta contended that the Chief Minister’s speech was delivered months after the riots, and it had nothing to do with the SIT investigation. The speech, he said, was in no way relevant to the conspiracy complaint made by Zakia Jafri, wife of Ehsan Jafri, who was killed in the Gulberg society carnage. It was beyond the scope of the SIT to seek a copy of this speech, Mr. Mehta said. At this, Justice D.K. Jain said: “We are issuing the directions, and if you fail to comply with them, you will have to tell the reasons and then the court will deal with it accordingly.” Justice P. Sathasivam told Mr. Mehta that there was a lot of correspondence between the SIT and the government, but there was no proper response from the government. When Mr. Mehta said the State had already given documents running into14,000 pages, Justice Jain said: “We are not on the number of pages. We want your response about the 14 documents asked from you. Hand over all vital documents to the SIT.” Justice Aftab Alam read out excerpts from the SIT interim report, pointing out that the court-appointed team wrote letters, seeking 14 documents, on September 15, October 31 and December 19 last but the government took no action. When Mr. Mehta said he should be given time to file his comments, Justice Jain said: “We don’t want your comments. We direct you to supply all the documents sought by the SIT.” The court directed that the matter be listed for February 9 to take up the applications seeking the reconstitution of the SIT in the wake of the recent judgment in the Sohrabuddin Sheikh encounter case. The Citizens for Justice and Peace sought removal of IGP Geetha Johri, IGP Shivanand Jha and another senior officer Ashish Bhatia. Amicus curiae Harish Salve asked the court not to give any direction to shift these officers, as such an order would be hurting. He had a telephonic conversation with Mr. Raghvan, who said things would likely be sorted out without the court’s intervention. Declining a request for five months’ time, the Bench asked the SIT to submit its report by April 30.

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