Why Kashmiris need an independent nation

[Al-zakir]

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Monday April 13 2009 19:35:06 PM BDT

By Shah Waseem Yousuf, Kashmir

Well there has been a lot of debate on why the recent mass uprising of 2008 in Kashmir failed to sustain and get the desired results. Some believe that it was due to leadership some held people responsible for this. But among all be it leadership or people one thing seems to be common as every one believes that this Kashmiri struggle lacks a clear cut strategy to take the resistance struggle forward. The mass uprising didn't failed completely as it gave a rebuff to colonial forces that sentiment is alive, deep rooted and kicking in the hearts and minds of people.

But yes there are certain things to be looked upon. Firstly our movement should be led by us without any directions or dictations by outside forces. National interests should be kept supreme while taking any decision. There is no need of identifying our heroic resistance struggle which started from 1585 A.D and is still continuing with Pakistan . We have seen how revolution of early 90’s got lost due to this and we got nothing in return. More ever this won’t help us at international level and by this we are making this dispute between India and Pakistan only.

It is understood that ultimately this dispute has to be solved through tripartite talks and on negotiation table neither India can take away whole Kashmir nor Pakistan can take it away. And Kashmiris won’t accept any solution reached only between these two which negates their national aspirations. So best solution is that both countries cease claim on their respective parts of Kashmir and allow it to get united and emerge as an Independent nation. It is deplorable that our benefactor hasn't adopted any realistic approach while dealing with the sensitive dispute of Kashmir .. Pakistan's current strategy is that we keep giving sacrifices and it will be our blood that will get spilled on mountains, river-lets, forests, streets and in every nook and corner and in the end it will take it as gift.

On other side of our Kashmir in govt functions they display banners written Kashmir will become Pakistan . If they are really practical about this we will write this slogan with our blood we have no problem with this, but for that there is only one option that is all over support to Kashmir and it might need to take India head on. Is Pakistan ready for that? What preparations our “base camp Azad Kashmir� has made for this? They were having their own army, there was no need of merging it with Pakistan army and increase burden on them. Our so called Mujahide Awal thinks it is not Jihad it is fassad here and back home sings old song of Jugular vein. So stop blackmailing us in the name of base camp and don't fool and emotionalize our youth for what is not practable and viable.

Some quarters argue that demanding Independent Kashmir amounts to Nationalism which is against Islam.. Nationalism is against Islam and it means subjugating other nations, robbing its resources and blind following of ones own nation. Kashmir was Independent nation and its history is 5000 years old it lost its independence at the hands of Mughals on 1585 A.D and since then only oppressors have been changing. India and Pakistan are exploiting our natural resources (especially water resources) to the benefit of their own and raising dams on our soil using our resources for electricity and other purposes and leaving us in lurch. Aren't they actually following nationalism? It is our right to fight against occupying forces for the independence of our motherland and that is Patriotism, a good deed in Islam. Even Shahi-Hamdan (A.R) endorsed our independence. Further more the great warriors of Chechnya ; Palestine , Iraq and Afghanistan are also committing sin of demanding independence of their otherland.

There are certain forces which have thrived on by fooling and confusing Kashmiris about the viability of Independent Kashmir in terms of economical aspect. The total area of Jammu Kashmir is about 84000 sq miles which is more than individual 93 independent countries and has population more than that of 125 independent countries of the world. We have so much of economic potential if used in better way we will be even able to give aid to other countries.

Kashmir has tremendous water resource by which we will be able to generate hydro-electricity on large scale which can be exported to our neighboring countries, alone through this we can become rich state. Kashmir is world famous tourist spot with fascinating and breathtaking natural beauty which can attract thousands of elite tourists who can spend thousands and lakhs and we will be able to earn billions of foreign exchange. Natural herbs are found in abundance in Kashmir and we can use them to make hundreds of medicines and it can prove big source of income. There is tons of waste wood in the forests of Kashmir which is not used and their quantity is increasing, this can be tapped and taken out to make paper for printing and for other uses we can setup hundreds of paper factories here. Fruit, timber, minerals and handicrafts of Kashmir are famous all over the world and can prove big asset for our economy. There are thousands of doctors, engineers and other professionals on both sides of C.F.L working in different countries and earning tens of billions in foreign exchange. Within short period of time we will be great economic powerful country than rest of our neighbors.

People of Kashmir have shown in different international polls that overwhelming majority is with Independent Kashmir. And to the satisfaction of India and Pakistan we say let Kashmiris decide themselves their fate whether they want to remain Independent or accede to India or with Pakistan . It can act as buffer state between India and Pakistan only if better sense prevails over both countries.


Shah Waseem Yousuf
E Mail :[email protected]
Student of BCA
Islamia College of Science and Commerce
Srinagar, Kashmir

I don't disagree with him!!!!!

http://newsfrombangladesh.net/view.php?hidRecord=257904

[dabong1]

I dont mind indian held kashmir going independent but i would have a problem with AJK joining it.

[sohailbutt]

AJK is already independent but it is a part of Pakistan, we donot interfere in AJK matters it is left up to them how they run their state. People in AJK live peaceful lives and we are happy with that.

Can't really say anything for ***! People in *** know best what they want and they are struggling for it from the past 30 years now, as far as people in AJK are concerned they have decided what they want to stay with Pakistan and they are happy with it.

[toxic_pus]

AJK is already independent but it is a part of Pakistan....

And irony continues to elude our beloved members.

.....we donot interfere in AJK matters it is left up to them how they run their state. People in AJK live peaceful lives and we are happy with that.

...as does knowledge.

"Power in Azad Kashmir is exercised primarily through the Pakistani army’s General Headquarters in Rawalpindi, just outside Islamabad, and its corps commander based in the hill station of Murree, two hours by road from Muzaffarabad. It is widely understood in Pakistan and privately admitted by virtually all politicians from Azad Kashmir that the corps commander in Murree is known to summon the Azad Kashmir prime minister, president and other government officials regularly to outline the military’s views on all political and governance issues in the territory.

During the rule of Pakistan’s first military leader, Ayub Khan (1958-68), President K.H. Khurshid of Azad Kashmir was forced to resign by a mid-level police official and later jailed in Palandari and Dalai Camp. During Prime Minister Zulfikar Ali Bhutto’s government (1972-77), another president of Azad Kashmir, Sardar Qayyum, was suddenly arrested by a mid-level official of the Federal Security Forces in Muzaffarabad and subsequently dismissed. During General Zia-ul-Haq’s government (1977-88), Brig. Hayat Khan was appointed administrator of Azad Kashmir, a post he held for seven years. When a civilian government was reestablished in Pakistan in 1988, Benazir Bhutto’s swearing in as prime minister was shortly followed by the installation of an elected government of Bhutto’s Pakistan People’s Party in Azad Kashmir. When Bhutto was sacked by the president in 1990, Azad Kashmir Prime Minister Mumtaz Rathore was “escorted” to Islamabad in a helicopter and made to sign a letter of resignation."
"With Friends Like These...": Human Rights Violations in Azad Kashmir: III. Constitutional Structure of Azad Kashmir and Its Relationship to Pakistan

[dabong1]

And irony continues to elude our beloved members.



...as does knowledge.

"Power in Azad Kashmir is exercised primarily through the Pakistani army’s General Headquarters in Rawalpindi, just outside Islamabad, and its corps commander based in the hill station of Murree, two hours by road from Muzaffarabad. It is widely understood in Pakistan and privately admitted by virtually all politicians from Azad Kashmir that the corps commander in Murree is known to summon the Azad Kashmir prime minister, president and other government officials regularly to outline the military’s views on all political and governance issues in the territory.

During the rule of Pakistan’s first military leader, Ayub Khan (1958-68), President K.H. Khurshid of Azad Kashmir was forced to resign by a mid-level police official and later jailed in Palandari and Dalai Camp. During Prime Minister Zulfikar Ali Bhutto’s government (1972-77), another president of Azad Kashmir, Sardar Qayyum, was suddenly arrested by a mid-level official of the Federal Security Forces in Muzaffarabad and subsequently dismissed. During General Zia-ul-Haq’s government (1977-88), Brig. Hayat Khan was appointed administrator of Azad Kashmir, a post he held for seven years. When a civilian government was reestablished in Pakistan in 1988, Benazir Bhutto’s swearing in as prime minister was shortly followed by the installation of an elected government of Bhutto’s Pakistan People’s Party in Azad Kashmir. When Bhutto was sacked by the president in 1990, Azad Kashmir Prime Minister Mumtaz Rathore was “escorted” to Islamabad in a helicopter and made to sign a letter of resignation."
"With Friends Like These...": Human Rights Violations in Azad Kashmir: III. Constitutional Structure of Azad Kashmir and Its Relationship to Pakistan

Dont see now uprising for freedom in AJK....pakistani army has not killed hundreds of thousands of people like the indian army.

[abrakadabra]

Monday April 13 2009 19:35:06 PM BDT

By Shah Waseem Yousuf, Kashmir
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Sentiment for independence does exist in Indian part of Kashmir, but I would say it is not clinching enough for it to succeed just like that.

Remember - India is able to govern, operate and conduct intellegence operations in that part with significant ease. Even elections are conducted with fair amount of freedom and success. There were separatists calling for boycotting the elections, and such requests have been clearly rejected.

It does prove that there is enough grass root level support for India also.

[Xeric]

And irony continues to elude our beloved members.



...as does knowledge.

"Power in Azad Kashmir is exercised primarily through the Pakistani army’s General Headquarters in Rawalpindi, just outside Islamabad, and its corps commander based in the hill station of Murree, two hours by road from Muzaffarabad. It is widely understood in Pakistan and privately admitted by virtually all politicians from Azad Kashmir that the corps commander in Murree is known to summon the Azad Kashmir prime minister, president and other government officials regularly to outline the military’s views on all political and governance issues in the territory.

During the rule of Pakistan’s first military leader, Ayub Khan (1958-68), President K.H. Khurshid of Azad Kashmir was forced to resign by a mid-level police official and later jailed in Palandari and Dalai Camp. During Prime Minister Zulfikar Ali Bhutto’s government (1972-77), another president of Azad Kashmir, Sardar Qayyum, was suddenly arrested by a mid-level official of the Federal Security Forces in Muzaffarabad and subsequently dismissed. During General Zia-ul-Haq’s government (1977-88), Brig. Hayat Khan was appointed administrator of Azad Kashmir, a post he held for seven years. When a civilian government was reestablished in Pakistan in 1988, Benazir Bhutto’s swearing in as prime minister was shortly followed by the installation of an elected government of Bhutto’s Pakistan People’s Party in Azad Kashmir. When Bhutto was sacked by the president in 1990, Azad Kashmir Prime Minister Mumtaz Rathore was “escorted” to Islamabad in a helicopter and made to sign a letter of resignation."
"With Friends Like These...": Human Rights Violations in Azad Kashmir: III. Constitutional Structure of Azad Kashmir and Its Relationship to Pakistan

As a matter of fact what all that you have quoted can be exactly said for the ***.

We know what all the puppet government in *** receives instruction from.

And yes i forgot to mention the 'fair and free' elections that are held in ***.

[abrakadabra]

As a matter of fact what all that you have quoted can be exactly said for the ***.

We know what all the puppet government in *** receives instruction from.

And yes i forgot to mention the 'fair and free' elections that are held in ***.

You are right. There is no secret that the Chief Minister of Indian part of Kashmir is like any other state CM, and hence operates within the Indian Constitution. He does not have powers to take decisions that do not confirm to the constitution of India.

However, I must say that given the conditions, the elections in Indian part of Kashmir have been free and fair enough. There is also no need for the Army/GOI to influence the outcome of the same as they were anyway not indicating acceptance/rejection of Indian rule.

[toxic_pus]

As a matter of fact what all that you have quoted can be exactly said for the ***.

We know what all the puppet government in *** receives instruction from.

And yes i forgot to mention the 'fair and free' elections that are held in ***.

India doesn't put up the facade of INDEPENDENCE as Pakistan does in respect of the territory it occupies. India's position is clear. Kashmir is part of India. Therefore, every single govt. agency, in and of Kashmir, has to work within the framework of Indian constitution and given its economy, thanks to your salaried "freedom fighters", it is almost totally dependent on Delhi.

If you want to call that receiving instruction, so be it.

[toxic_pus]

Dont see now uprising for freedom in AJK....pakistani army has not killed hundreds of thousands of people like the indian army.

Read the entire article and be ready to be surprised.

[Xeric]

India doesn't put up the facade of INDEPENDENCE as Pakistan does in respect of the territory it occupies. India's position is clear. Kashmir is part of India. Therefore, every single govt. agency, in and of Kashmir, has to work within the framework of Indian constitution and given its economy, thanks to your salaried "freedom fighters", it is almost totally dependent on Delhi.

If you want to call that receiving instruction, so be it.

So why don't you get over with it.

More than 6 decades have passed, still why don't you just go and occupy it.

Go ahead finish the damn issue outright!

[dabong1]

Read the entire article and be ready to be surprised.

I wont be.....i live in AJK and know fully well what is going on.

A bird with clipped wings sums it up.

[white_pawn]

Forget it. They are not getting it.

Now that for sure, its not going to happen, everyone knows that. but then also to quench their thirst to haterate thay keep saying that

[dabong1]

Forget it. They are not getting it.

We not asking....where taking what is ours.

[dabong1]

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Now that for sure, its not going to happen, everyone knows that. but then also to quench their thirst to haterate thay keep saying that

I agree, an independent kashmir is not going to happen......it can only be truly free as a part of pakistan.