India to discuss China with US later this month

[Isaq Khan]

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India to discuss China with US later this month

NEW DELHI: Even as India formally protested to China about the presence of its troops in Pakistan-0ccupied Kashmir, New Delhi is getting ready to engage the US on China.

Indian officials, led by Gautam Bambawale, joint secretary, East Asia, in the MEA, will be in Washington later this month for the second round of Asian strategic dialogue with Kurt Campbell, US assistant secretary of state for East Asia. While the dialogue will largely cover the two countries approach to Asian policies and strategies, China is likely to dominate the talks. The first round of the talks was held in New Delhi in April, where India and the US for the first time shared perceptions and assessments about China, followed by other countries like Myanmar.

A lot has happened with China since then. Both India and the US have had several run-ins with China on national security issues all of which are likely to be discussed.

In July, the US barged its way into the South China Sea debate at the Asean conference, what went unnoticed was that India joined 11 other countries to openly declare that the South China Sea should remain open for international navigation. It was an important statement, and it was made at the Asean Region Forum "retreat" meeting by MoS external affairs Preneet Kaur. It was made in response to China's declaration that the South China Sea would to be an integral part of Beijing's "core" interest, along with Tibet and Taiwan.

India retains a strong interest in keeping sea lanes open in the South China Sea. Apart from helping secure energy supplies for countries like Japan and Korea, India has the unique distinction of shipping oil from Sakhalin to Mangalore through this sea route. For China to maintain control over these waters would be very difficult for India to accept.

In the past few months, the US has upped the ante with China on the national security front -- its naval exercises with South Korea in the Sea of Japan raised hackles in Beijing (even though the US refrained from conducting these exercises in the Yellow sea, which would have really riled the Chinese).

China has also stopped defence exchanges with the US, after the Obama administration carried out arms sales with Taiwan.

China has been hurting India's own core interests lately, with the matter coming to a head when Beijing refused to allow the visit of the Indian army's GOC-in-C northern command because his command included Jammu & Kashmir.

There is a growing perception in India that the Chinese military establishment is playing a different foreign policy script than the foreign office in Beijing. This perception has been strengthened over the past couple of years, which makes India's diplomacy on China a lot more difficult.

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1. Why china is so foolish and wants to make everybody hostile and enemy????

2. They are provoking India, South Korea, Japan, Vietnam, Taiwan, USA etc.

I'm afraid china's bullying will end up like Hitler who have made so many enemies at same time that results in his destruction.

[lalluyadav]

i think china has lost the way to keep india with him with his recent provocations or so called testing of atmosphere.

[Paladin]

i think china has lost the way to keep india with him with his recent provocations or so called testing of atmosphere.

You underestimate a nation that is well over 5000 years old.

[lalluyadav]

You underestimate a nation that is well over 5000 years old.

so wat is over estimation??.china has underestimated the nation who is one of the oldest society in world.is it link with this?

[Isaq Khan]

You underestimate a nation that is well over 5000 years old.

Its other way round.

China is overestimating it self and making one of their biggest mistakes like making too many enemies at a time like India, South Korea, Vietnam, Taiwan and USA etc.

China will end up like Hitler if they don't change.

[Paladin]

is it link with this?

Huh..

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Translation:
The Epoch Times | China’s 5,000-Year Old Civilization Is No Bluff – Prehistoric Relics Provides New Evidence

[Paladin]

Its other way round.

China is overestimating it self and making one of their biggest mistakes like making too many enemies at a time like India, South Korea, Vietnam, Taiwan and USA etc.

China will end up like Hitler if they don't change.

China will end up like Hitler if they don't change.


No Seriously. They WONT! This is why you underestimate China. The Chinese are a shrewd people. Their time is just BEGINNING.

[somebozo]

extreme paronia?
to me it looks like rising indian extremism would turn them into nazis of 21 century. How can india pride itself in tolerance and multiculturism when their politics are full of prejudice and superiority complex against neighbours.?

The Indian mentality has not evolved above the vis a vis mindset inherited from communism. South Korea, Vietnam, Taiwan and USA etc are improving ties with India but also with China by manifolds..In any case China is much much more power projection capable economically, millitarily and intellactualy than India will be in next 20 years. If their myth of world biggest democracy is busted then may be in next 50 years!

[jha]

What is going on..too many china related threads these days...itna footage dena band karo bhai ...Jab bhi India US ki batcheet hogi usme dher saare maamle par baat hogi...Stop being paranoid..

[Tractor]

Hitler is a person not a country.
Germany's all faults were made by Hitler himself.
Germany was too weak to affend and defend but China is too strong.Believe me.

[Isaq Khan]

China will end up like Hitler if they don't change.


No Seriously. They WONT! This is why you underestimate China. The Chinese are a shrewd people. Their time is just BEGINNING.

beginning of end???

I can understand ur obsession that must give u some kind of kick.

But do you really believe that china can take whole of the world USA, NATO, India etc.??????????

[SEAL]

1. Why china is so foolish and wants to make everybody hostile and enemy????

2. They are provoking India, South Korea, Japan, Vietnam, Taiwan, USA etc.

I'm afraid china's bullying will end up like Hitler who have made so many enemies at same time that results in his destruction.

What makes you think China is foolish and Indian dhoti politicians are very intelligent next time watch your mouth.

China isn't provoking anyone its a trap PLA 11,000 troops are in Pakistan, Indian is in great danger so select USA planes in mmrca.
Its a test of your foolish Indian politicians and establishment.

[somebozo]

beginning of end???

I can understand ur obsession that must give u some kind of kick.

But do you really believe that china can take whole of the world USA, NATO, India etc.??????????

USA + Nato couldnt take on Afghan tribal fighters.

it is only Indian mentality of seeing itself as center piece on world state..a leagacy of communism and soviet influence. In reality countries which are building ties with India also have ties with china at much larger scale and atleast a few decades old. India is a new player so over confidence runs rampant. Once this elephant gets a shock of reality they will sit back and relax.

The only country with more hostible neigbours right now is India.
Theren were indian members rejoicing over vietnam signing millitary pact with USA only to have a next thread started about vietnam also promoting strong ties with China.

The indian polticians like any typical indian are playing narrow minded brahmin mental games of manipulation. If you can exploit someone for a benefit then why not??? only to be dismayed that the world politicans are not utter fools as they may appear.

[indianpatriot]

Huh..

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Translation:
The Epoch Times | China’s 5,000-Year Old Civilization Is No Bluff – Prehistoric Relics Provides New Evidence

you need some english lessons..he didn't ask for a link proving that china is a 5000yr old civilizaton..he meant what the hell iy has to do with modern geopolitics..if thats so then China underestimated India which is a 10,000yr society!!!

[humanfirst]

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extreme paronia?
to me it looks like rising indian extremism would turn them into nazis of 21 century. How can india pride itself in tolerance and multiculturism when their politics are full of prejudice and superiority complex against neighbours.?

The Indian mentality has not evolved above the vis a vis mindset inherited from communism. South Korea, Vietnam, Taiwan and USA etc are improving ties with India but also with China by manifolds..In any case China is much much more power projection capable economically, millitarily and intellactualy than India will be in next 20 years. If their myth of world biggest democracy is busted then may be in next 50 years!

Wtf man!!are you implying that if china deployed troops in gilgit baltistan india shouldn't be concerned?When china denies visa to an indian officer who was on to a good will visit shouldn't india be offended?If india had done all this i'm 100% sure the same you will be accusing india of provoking china,dont you?We responding to china's provocation is superiority complex to you?By your perverted logic china can provoke india as much as it wants just because china is stronger!how pathetic!