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[xdrive]

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I am not justifying any attack on anyone, its simple inhuman.

Wrong, you were clearly justifying it by saying this

People killed by extremist kind of Muslims is just a small percentage of the number of people killed by you Christians in the last one century, go figure it out.

That quote is a load of crpa. You act as if there is some islam vs christian thing happening and that the invasions of iraq and afghanistan were by "christians"

Please go back to your Taliban training camp in afghanistan, so you can be bombed. Thank you.

[al'ain]

I don't necessarily agree that all Muslims are terrorists. That would be ridiculous. But Muslims have to understand why others would think so.

Also World war 2 and Christian crusades were dark ages in the western history. People today would not justify those attacks or take pride in it.

One would think same would happen in Pakistan as well. But people in this forum justify it saying something similar had happened somewhere in the past. That's no justification at all.

Everybody seem to forget why America is in that part of the world. It was first attacked by terrorists not the other way around. Talking about oil, how much of the oil America siphoned from Iraq now that it invaded that country?

so you think Israel killing innocent people is still in the past?
or war on iraq is good move just for some useless weapons which were never been founded ,

[xdrive]

The entire Western involvement in the Middle East is a Christian crusade. It was not Muslims who injected religious fundamentalism into the region -- it was Jewish and Christian fanatics, read Zionists, who first used religion to capture Palestine.

Everything else -- everything else -- follows from that first move by Jewish/Christian fanatics.



Why not? This is straight from the Israeli rulebook. Every time Israel gets called out for some atrocity, we get flooded with Holocaust documentaries.

It's unfortunate to discover that you have the same extremist, conspiracy theory views as the moderator.

Claiming the invasions were a christian crusader is ridiculous and just idiotic.

And look your even now talking about jews and Zionism, thats got nothing to do with the thread topic or anything. Take your "THE JEWS ARE BEHIND EVERYTHING" conspiracy theories elsewhere.

[Roybot]

Why do Pakistanis continue to live in western countries and yet have problem with their ideologies and call for Jihad sitting in these very western countries. If they have so much problem with these western countries policy shouldn't they leave those countries and go back to Pakistan?

I mean its not that hard to picture is it? Imagine 200,000 Americans/
Englishmen living in Pakistan calling Pakistan's policy a farce and demonstrating against Pakistan and its culture openly, how would normal Pakistanis react to that?

[Chinese-Dragon]

What a load of extremist crap. I am more surprised that a moderator of the forum is spouting this nonsense. This sounds like something straight from the mouth of a member of the taliban.

You are screaming "THIS IS YOUR FAULT, THE CHRISTIANS INVADED IRAQ BLAH BLAH" If you had any brain you would know that the conflicts arent some stupid religion vs religion islam vs christian thing, yet here you are saying "Christians invaded blah blah" Half the coalition force arent even christian.

Trying to justify the killing of innocent people by saying "oh some other people did it" is absolutely stupid.

Hmm shall i go out now and kill someone and then say "Well hitler did it in 1942, so it's only fair"

People like you are what is wrong with this world, and people like you are what gives muslims a bad name.

If i was a muslim on this forum i would be extremely embarrassed by you.

Learn to read, genius.

He clearly was NOT "justifying the killing of innocent people" as you claim.

In fact he clearly stated otherwise.

Now I'd like to see you back up your accusation.

[xdrive]

Learn to read, genius.

He clearly was NOT "justifying the killing of innocent people" as you claim.

In fact he clearly stated otherwise.

Now I'd like to see you back up your accusation.

Incorrect, he is, as i clearly quoted. He clearly implies it.

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Why do Pakistanis continue to live in western countries and yet have problem with their ideologies and call for Jihad sitting in these very western countries. If they have so much problem with these western countries policy shouldn't they leave those countries and go back to Pakistan?

I mean its not that hard to picture is it? Imagine 200,000 Americans/
Englishmen living in Pakistan calling Pakistan's policy a farce and demonstrating against Pakistan and its culture openly, how would normal Pakistanis react to that?

It confuses me too.

[Developereo]

It's unfortunate to discover that you have the same extremist, conspiracy theory views as the moderator.

Claiming the invasions were a christian crusader is ridiculous and just idiotic.

And look your even now talking about jews and Zionism, thats got nothing to do with the thread topic or anything. Take your "THE JEWS ARE BEHIND EVERYTHING" conspiracy theories elsewhere.

I am not responsible for your ignorance of history.

Take some time to understand the 20th century history of the Middle East, and the role of Zionism within it, to educate yourself about the world.

Nobody is saying the Jews are behind everything. We are talking about Jewish and Christian extremists, not peaceful members of those religions. Your predictable attempt to invoke anti-Semitism to avoid the issues is pathetic.

Why do Pakistanis continue to live in western countries and yet have problem with their ideologies and call for Jihad sitting in these very western countries. If they have so much problem with these western countries policy shouldn't they leave those countries and go back to Pakistan?

There is no issue with "their ideologies". The issue is with religious extremists in Western countries who hijack their foreign policy to wage crusades.

[Chinese-Dragon]

Please go back to your Taliban training camp in afghanistan, so you can be bombed. Thank you.

Is this really your best attempt at trying to have a rational discussion?

[al'ain]

Why do Pakistanis continue to live in western countries and yet have problem with their ideologies and call for Jihad sitting in these very western countries. If they have so much problem with these western countries policy shouldn't they leave those countries and go back to Pakistan?

I mean its not that hard to picture is it? Imagine 200,000 Americans/
Englishmen living in Pakistan calling Pakistan's policy a farce and demonstrating against Pakistan and its culture openly, how would normal Pakistanis react to that?

there are many hindus living abroad, only because their country cant give them proper education and employment, they live abroad and then they do crimes, insurance claims, VAT benefits, drug dealing etc , nearly all of them are criminals, no one has complain for what they do, then why you are pissing off if you have any problem take your case to UN

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there are many hindus living abroad, only because their country cant give them proper education and employment, they live abroad and then they do crimes, insurance claims, VAT benefits, drug dealing etc , nearly all of them are criminals, no one has complain for what they do, then why you are pissing off if you have any problem take your case to UN

Seems like a case of jealousy.

[al'ain]

Seems like a case of jealousy.

Not jealousy mate, you are in Pakistani forum, you are free to do anything you want, remember

[Roybot]

There is no issue with "their ideologies". The issue is with religious extremists in Western countries who hijack their foreign policy to wage crusades.

And you say that based on what?

Were these "western extremists" influenced NATO forces in Afghanistan before 9/11? no they were not. No one cared about what the Taliban rag heads were doing in their own country as long as they didn't export their "way of life" of to other countries. The whole world just watched in in dismay when these very Talibans blew up the Bamiyan Buddha statues with RPGs and rockets, but did the world invade Afghanistan in retaliation, no they didn't. Why? because once again they didn't care whatever these taliban lots were upto as long they were doing it in Afghanistan.

Same goes for Iraq. Gulf war would have never happened if Iraqi forces didn't invade Kuwait.

Now please don't tell me some Christian-Jewish-Zionist nexus coerced Saddam to invade Kuwait or the terrorists in Afghanistan to execute 9/11. You cant possibly go around inciting superpowers like America and not expect to be bombed in retaliation and then claim this to be some 21st century crusade.

[xdrive]

Is this really your best attempt at trying to have a rational discussion?

A rational discussion stopped as soon as the extremist mod tried to justify the killings of thousands of innocent people and when he started going on a rant about the "Scary Christians" going on world crusaders in afghanistan and iraq.

[Roybot]

there are many hindus living abroad, only because their country cant give them proper education and employment, they live abroad and then they do crimes, insurance claims, VAT benefits, drug dealing etc , nearly all of them are criminals, no one has complain for what they do, then why you are pissing off if you have any problem take your case to UN

Atleast they don't sit in "Infidel" countries calling for the death of "infidels" while enjoying benefits being doled out to them by the "Infidel" zionist governments

[Chinese-Dragon]

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A rational discussion stopped as soon as the extremist mod tried to justify the killings of thousands of innocent people and when he started going on a rant about the "Scary Christians" going on world crusaders in afghanistan and iraq.

Once again, learn to read. TaimiKhan DID NOT justify the killing of thousands of innocent people.

You are making a disgusting false accusation against TaimiKhan. An accusation that, of course, you are unable to prove... apart from the implications that are going on inside your head.