Australian churches threatened

[Aussie4ever]

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threats of terror attacks on at least four Australian churches prompted police to protect thousands of Coptic Christians during Christmas Eve services.

Police on Thursday surrounded the Coptic Orthodox churches in Sydney after a bomb blast killed 21 people during a New Year's Eve Coptic church service in Alexandria, Egypt.

Coptic Churches around the world are also on high alert as their Christmas Eve services are scheduled for Friday (Australian time).

On Thursday night in Sydney, bomb searches and police helicopters were part of the security measures that soured Christmas Eve celebrations.

Some church officials are worried that an attack may eventuate when least expected on any on of their churches, monasteries or schools in Australia.

A police detail searched St Antonious and St Paul parish in Guildford, in Sydney's west, on Thursday afternoon prior to its 7pm Christmas Eve services, a church official told AAP.

Up to 700 parishioners were estimated to be in attendance.

During the service, teams of officers surrounded the area while helicopters with spotlights searched the local suburb.

'There were threats to our church - three or four churches in the (Sydney) Coptic church,' said the man who asked not to be identified.

He said NSW Police contacted the church this week to say the Guildford site and three others in Sydney had been the target of a terrorist threat.

Archangel and St Bishoy at Mt Druitt, in Sydney's west, St Demiana and St Athanasius at Punchbowl, in Sydney's southwest and St Mary and St Merkorious, at Rhodes, were understood to be on the threat list.

A woman witnessed a police operation in her neighbourhood at Arncliffe, where St Mark Coptic Church is located in Sydney's south.

'The police helicopter is sweeping the suburb with this massive spotlight,' the woman told AAP.

All of the churches cancelled their traditional dinners that would normally happen after Christmas Eve services.

The spokesman said Thursday's threat, which resulted in no reported incidents, could have been a diversion.

'They want you to focus on the area that they're not going to be touching,' he said.

'And even though the threat was for Christmas Eve, they might do it on a normal Sunday. That's how they work.'

Police issued a statement to AAP following Thursday's operations.

'The NSW Police Force is closely monitoring international developments in the wake of the attack on the Coptic community in Egypt,' the statement read.

'Police have met with local Coptic leaders and are currently working with them to allay any fears within that community.'

Peter Mikhail attended the Guildford service and said the threats soured the service and have put fear into the congregation.

'It was not a nice way to be celebrating Christmas here in a country where you're supposed to be safe,' Mr Mikhail told AAP.

He said the traditionally long mass but had to be cut short at police request and people were dispersed immediately.

'We went to church today feeling quite apprehensive thinking oh my God' what if something does take place,' Mr Mikhail said.

'I'm worried about my wife, I'm worried about my kids.'

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[TruthSeeker]

These wonderful fears are brought to us by ardent followers of "the" religion of peace.

A crucial distinction made in Islamic theology is that between dar al-harb and dar al-islam. To put it simply, dar al-harb (territory of war or chaos) is the name for the regions where Islam does not dominate, where divine will is not observed, and therefore where continuing strife is the norm. By contrast, dar al-islam (territory of peace) is the name for those territories where Islam does dominate, where submission to God is observed, and where peace and tranquility reign.

[Durran3]

Basically where Islam goes, terror and threatening people follow... the correlation between the two are very very strong!!!

[TaimiKhan]

These wonderful fears are brought to us by ardent followers of "the" religion of peace.

A crucial distinction made in Islamic theology is that between dar al-harb and dar al-islam. To put it simply, dar al-harb (territory of war or chaos) is the name for the regions where Islam does not dominate, where divine will is not observed, and therefore where continuing strife is the norm. By contrast, dar al-islam (territory of peace) is the name for those territories where Islam does dominate, where submission to God is observed, and where peace and tranquility reign.

Basically where Islam goes, terror and threatening people follow... the correlation between the two are very very strong!!!

Were the 2 world wars started by Muslims or who were the people from which religion who killed the most in those wars ??

Was the so called Holocaust of Jews done by Muslims or someone from Christianity ?

Hadn't the British and Americans created Israel, would the Muslims be in such shape as are right now ? Would the hatred for Americans from Muslims present today hadn't US Christians blindly supporting the terrorist nation of Israel ??

Had the Christian America's & Soviets cold war not existed, wouldn't things be different in Afghanistan and no OBL / Al Zawari / Taliban would have born ??

Have you two ever sat and used up those brains and calculated that who have killed more human beings, Muslims or Christians ??

Doesn't the Christian America supports Kingdoms and dictators in Muslim countries for their own use and make money out of it ??


Grow up and use up those brains instead of pure hatred against Muslims fed into your minds.

Christians have terrorized and killed much more then Muslims.

Whatever Muslims are doing, its becoz of your own indecent, inhuman actions around the world.

Its due the thinking of people like you that we Muslims have started to hate you.

People killed by extremist kind of Muslims is just a small percentage of the number of people killed by you Christians in the last one century, go figure it out.

Those 6 Million Jews were killed not by any Muslim, and the other Millions killed in those wars were not killed by Muslims either, those were you Christians.

Disgusting.

[Hussein]

These wonderful fears are brought to us by ardent followers of "the" religion of peace.

A crucial distinction made in Islamic theology is that between dar al-harb and dar al-islam. To put it simply, dar al-harb (territory of war or chaos) is the name for the regions where Islam does not dominate, where divine will is not observed, and therefore where continuing strife is the norm. By contrast, dar al-islam (territory of peace) is the name for those territories where Islam does dominate, where submission to God is observed, and where peace and tranquility reign.

so easy to say bullshit
why you spend your time on this forum spreading your hatred towards our religion?
you didn't think that most muslims in the world condamn that violence? just stop watching fox news

[Parashuram1]

People killed by extremist kind of Muslims is just a small percentage of the number of people killed by you Christians in the last one century, go figure it out.

But this in any way justify the explosion that happened in Alexandria? Or for that matter killings of any explosions or strikes that have happened in the last two decades?

I would not point the finger on all Muslims in general as it is wrong but please take a note; whenever such explosions or threats to attempt them are made, somehow or the other very unfortunately I would say a Muslim name always crops up.

Now how this happens irrespective of any region around the planet, Heavens know. This simply shows presence of a certain susceptibility of Muslim youth to be mis-guided by fundamentalists and hence lead the wrong track due to the lack of general questioning in your society.

When there is absolutism of one religious figure or a cleric/scholar of any kind, such possibilities start to rise. Do you not agree?

[Rafi]

The total number of casualties in World War I, both military and civilian, was about 37 million: 16 million deaths and 21 million wounded. The total number of deaths includes 9.7 million military personnel and about 6.8 million civilians. The Entente Powers (also known as the Allies) lost about 5.7 million soldiers while the Central Powers lost about 4 million.

Yeah right Muslims did that.

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World War II was the deadliest military conflict in history. Over 60 million people were killed. The tables below give a detailed country-by-country count of human losses.

Again those big bad Muslims

[TaimiKhan]

But this in any way justify the explosion that happened in Alexandria? Or for that matter killings of any explosions or strikes that have happened in the last two decades?

I would not point the finger on all Muslims in general as it is wrong but please take a note; whenever such explosions or threats to attempt them are made, somehow or the other very unfortunately I would say a Muslim name always crops up.

Now how this happens irrespective of any region around the planet, Heavens know. This simply shows presence of a certain susceptibility of Muslim youth to be mis-guided by fundamentalists and hence lead the wrong track due to the lack of general questioning in your society.

When there is absolutism of one religious figure or a cleric/scholar of any kind, such possibilities start to rise. Do you not agree?

I am not justifying any attack on anyone, its simple inhuman.

If you read clearly, am answering to those who are putting the whole blame on Muslims as if their own record is clear as milk or they are from heaven and we are from hell.

And as for your other points, i guess those are clear in my rest of the post that had not the Christian ruled America and others created such conditions that fundamentalist from Muslims are using it to spread terror in the name of revenge from the Christian America.

So main crux is, that instead of squarely blaming the Muslims, these Christians should look into the mirror and see their own past and present and understand the ground level roots which are spreading extremism among Muslims.

If the Christian America not invaded and occupied Iraq, don't you agree that atleast extremists would not have arisen in Iraq atleast, but since Christian America invaded for oil, its logical that extremist Muslims will retaliate in whatever way they can.

[freeman]

@ TaimiKhan

You are a disgrace.
Yeah the Christian are to blame for the whole worlds problems. Not sure if you have ever traveled outside Pakistan but the USA and Europe are secular, they are not "Christian" as you put it. You rationalizing of who's killed more or what religion is responsible for more dead is probably a lack of your intellect.

Seems like even the moderators have gone extremo on this forum.

Im done, good luck Pakistan your modernization, is going to be a rocky road.

Please delete my user, this forum has gone to the dogs

[al'ain]

@ TaimiKhan

You are a disgrace.
Yeah the Christian are to blame for the whole worlds problems. Not sure if you have ever traveled outside Pakistan but the USA and Europe are secular, they are not "Christian" as you put it. You rationalizing of who's killed more or what religion is responsible for more dead is probably a lack of your intellect.

Seems like even the moderators have gone extremo on this forum.

Im done, good luck Pakistan your modernization, is going to be a rocky road.

Please delete my user, this forum has gone to the dogs

its good news you are going now , scum like you should be thrown into gutter, look hitler was a christian he killed millions of jews, is that means christians are terrorists? everyday we heard news about children being used for sex in churches , is that means christians are pedophile , ?

[AUz]

All you Islam haters that are blinded by the Media see below :

Now why doesn't this type of news hit the headlines?

Muslim "human shields" at Coptic Christmas Eve mass

http://www.adamdeen.com/component/co...ler/67-intro-4

[Developereo]

USA and Europe are secular, they are not "Christian" as you put it.

Your ignorance is touching!

The US military is a tool of US foreign policy -- a policy that is completely hijacked by religious fanatics of the Jewish and Christian variety, i.e. Zionists.

The Israeli military's entire purpose is to defend the Israeli state -- a state that enshrines religious bigotry within its very constitution.

Just because Faux News doesn't spoonfeed you these inconvenient facts doesn't mean they are not central to the debate.

[xdrive]

Were the 2 world wars started by Muslims or who were the people from which religion who killed the most in those wars ??

Was the so called Holocaust of Jews done by Muslims or someone from Christianity ?

Hadn't the British and Americans created Israel, would the Muslims be in such shape as are right now ? Would the hatred for Americans from Muslims present today hadn't US Christians blindly supporting the terrorist nation of Israel ??

Had the Christian America's & Soviets cold war not existed, wouldn't things be different in Afghanistan and no OBL / Al Zawari / Taliban would have born ??

Have you two ever sat and used up those brains and calculated that who have killed more human beings, Muslims or Christians ??

Doesn't the Christian America supports Kingdoms and dictators in Muslim countries for their own use and make money out of it ??


Grow up and use up those brains instead of pure hatred against Muslims fed into your minds.

Christians have terrorized and killed much more then Muslims.

Whatever Muslims are doing, its becoz of your own indecent, inhuman actions around the world.

Its due the thinking of people like you that we Muslims have started to hate you.

People killed by extremist kind of Muslims is just a small percentage of the number of people killed by you Christians in the last one century, go figure it out.

Those 6 Million Jews were killed not by any Muslim, and the other Millions killed in those wars were not killed by Muslims either, those were you Christians.

Disgusting.

What a load of extremist crap. I am more surprised that a moderator of the forum is spouting this nonsense. This sounds like something straight from the mouth of a member of the taliban.

You are screaming "THIS IS YOUR FAULT, THE CHRISTIANS INVADED IRAQ BLAH BLAH" If you had any brain you would know that the conflicts arent some stupid religion vs religion islam vs christian thing, yet here you are saying "Christians invaded blah blah" Half the coalition force arent even christian.

Trying to justify the killing of innocent people by saying "oh some other people did it" is absolutely stupid.

Hmm shall i go out now and kill someone and then say "Well hitler did it in 1942, so it's only fair"

People like you are what is wrong with this world, and people like you are what gives muslims a bad name.

If i was a muslim on this forum i would be extremely embarrassed by you.

[great]

I don't necessarily agree that all Muslims are terrorists. That would be ridiculous. But Muslims have to understand why others would think so.

Also World war 2 and Christian crusades were dark ages in the western history. People today would not justify those attacks or take pride in it.

One would think same would happen in Pakistan as well. But people in this forum justify it saying something similar had happened somewhere in the past. That's no justification at all.

Everybody seem to forget why America is in that part of the world. It was first attacked by terrorists not the other way around. Talking about oil, how much of the oil America siphoned from Iraq now that it invaded that country?

[Developereo]

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the conflicts arent some stupid religion vs religion islam vs christian thing, yet here you are saying "Christians invaded blah blah" Half the coalition force arent even christian.

The entire Western involvement in the Middle East is a Christian crusade. It was not Muslims who injected religious fundamentalism into the region -- it was Jewish and Christian fanatics, read Zionists, who first used religion to capture Palestine.

Everything else -- everything else -- follows from that first move by Jewish/Christian fanatics.

Hmm shall i go out now and kill someone and then say "Well hitler did it in 1942, so it's only fair"

Why not? This is straight from the Israeli rulebook. Every time Israel gets called out for some atrocity, we get flooded with Holocaust documentaries.

Everybody seem to forget why America is in that part of the world. It was first attacked by terrorists not the other way around.

That is completely wrong.

9/11 did not happen in a vacuum. It was a response to American foreign policy actions.

Thousands, if not millions, of Muslims have been killed because of America's support for Israel and other anti-Muslim activites.