'Saffron maulanas' preach Sangh values to Muslims

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That means I am eligible for heaven even according to islamic rule

Negative. She did not say non muslims are eligible. She said all muslims are not eligible. There's a difference.

All my Bhai's..see u in hell then..since iam not eligible too

[IND_PAK]

Not true. If hinduism is correct doesn't imply 5 billion are goint to hell. A child in freaking paoua new guinea who hasn't heard of Ram but is kind, caring and overall a good citizen will still go to heaven. There is no such bar in hinduism. Maybe not even in christianity if im not mistaken.
And just btw.. For all you trollers. I'm not hindu.

The basic constraint on my analysis is that it was pre assumed that one not following a religion(and its rituals strictly) will not be considered for a heaven seat.

[Whiplash]

It is not comparable because the kid is brain washed and also used upon medicines and other tactics by terrorists. the wave of terrorism will end soon and FYI in Islam suicide itself is forbidden and haram.

but cast system is there for thousands of years. marrying for quota is just ONE point.

untouchable is altogether a different big thing. and only can be done away with if people like you come out in reject it instead of defending it by saying oh look in your country terrorists are blowing up.

Oh my god. Don't tell me you think UNTOUCHABILITY exists. I am going to roll on the floor laughing. XDDD
For a journalist, Jana.. You are extremely brainwashed.

[RazPaK]

I don't even think you read the link I provided you. So now offically documenting people by their castes on id cards is considered uplifting?

[Whiplash]

I don't even think you read the link I provided you. So now offically documenting people by their castes on id cards is considered uplifting?

Dude.. Stop making a joke out of yourself.
They are documented so that they can provide proof of them being of a suppressed class to avail of reservations intended for their UPLIFMENT

[Spring Onion]

Oh my god. Don't tell me you think UNTOUCHABILITY exists. I am going to roll on the floor laughing. XDDD
For a journalist, Jana.. You are extremely brainwashed.

India’s low-caste still “untouchables”

Published: 09 August, 2010, 07:22

In the traditional Hindu society, caste prejudice is illegal but it is still an issue for many, especially when it comes to the “ritually impured.”

The so-called Dalits, or “untouchables,” are not allowed to get involved with the upper caste in any way.

It is a problem that’s been simmering, but now Soni Devi says it’s fast reaching the boiling point. She is a newly-appointed cook in this primary school in Jaanipur. She is there to prepare the government-funded midday meal.

But despite Soni’s best intentions, some of the students turn their noses up at her culinary creations, because she is a Dalit. In traditional Hindu society, only upper-caste cooks are allowed to cook community meals.

“Some upper-caste children don’t want to eat food made by me,” she said. “Their parents consider the food polluted by my touch. What can I do? I’m here to make lunch in this school. I treat the children here just like my own kids.”

120 million children across India receive a mid-day meal every working day, in the largest school lunch program in the world. But when the Education Ministry decided to send Dalit cooks to village schools, where the majority of pupils are upper-caste Hindus, many found that too hard to swallow.

“The mid-day meal can entice poor parents to send their children to school. The kids look forward to it. But there are some parents who don’t want their children to eat food made by low-caste people and have removed their children from here, and also threatened us as well,” said school principal Ram Kumar Pathak.

Meet the Singh family, a member of the upper caste Rajput community. They refused to allow their 10-year old son Parmanand to continue studying in a school which they felt didn’t respect their customs, and pulled him out immediately.

“We are upper caste. We believe strongly in the caste system. We cannot eat food made or touched by somebody from a lower caste. That’s why we moved our child from this government school and put him into a private one,” Parmanand’s mother Gita Devi explained.

Activists say this kind of reaction demonstrates the difficulty in eradicating the caste system. Discrimination on the basis of caste is illegal in India, but the practice is still entrenched in rural areas, where the kind of work you do, and who you can eat with, is largely divided along caste lines.

“We low-caste people are treated like dirt,” said low-cast villager Umi Devi. “The upper castes order us about, they tell us, ‘Stay on one side, wash the utensils, sit there’-- anything to humiliate us. They want us to remain low and never rise up.”

As for the government, it is most willing to bridge social divisions and says legal action will be taken against villagers who oppose Dalit cooks in schools.
India



India

[RazPaK]

Dude.. Stop making a joke out of yourself.
They are documented so that they can provide proof of them being of a suppressed class to avail of reservations intended for their UPLIFMENT

LOL. You can play with words all day, but that doesn't change the fact the caste system exists. Second of all, this program although with good intentions will most likely render the lower classes with new stereotypes, and create animosty between other classes, that do not recieve help. I think you're so engaged in proving me wrong, that you're being irrational.

[Whiplash]

India’s low-caste still “untouchables”

Published: 09 August, 2010, 07:22

In the traditional Hindu society, caste prejudice is illegal but it is still an issue for many, especially when it comes to the “ritually impured.”

The so-called Dalits, or “untouchables,” are not allowed to get involved with the upper caste in any way.

It is a problem that’s been simmering, but now Soni Devi says it’s fast reaching the boiling point. She is a newly-appointed cook in this primary school in Jaanipur. She is there to prepare the government-funded midday meal.

But despite Soni’s best intentions, some of the students turn their noses up at her culinary creations, because she is a Dalit. In traditional Hindu society, only upper-caste cooks are allowed to cook community meals.

“Some upper-caste children don’t want to eat food made by me,” she said. “Their parents consider the food polluted by my touch. What can I do? I’m here to make lunch in this school. I treat the children here just like my own kids.”

120 million children across India receive a mid-day meal every working day, in the largest school lunch program in the world. But when the Education Ministry decided to send Dalit cooks to village schools, where the majority of pupils are upper-caste Hindus, many found that too hard to swallow.

“The mid-day meal can entice poor parents to send their children to school. The kids look forward to it. But there are some parents who don’t want their children to eat food made by low-caste people and have removed their children from here, and also threatened us as well,” said school principal Ram Kumar Pathak.

Meet the Singh family, a member of the upper caste Rajput community. They refused to allow their 10-year old son Parmanand to continue studying in a school which they felt didn’t respect their customs, and pulled him out immediately.

“We are upper caste. We believe strongly in the caste system. We cannot eat food made or touched by somebody from a lower caste. That’s why we moved our child from this government school and put him into a private one,” Parmanand’s mother Gita Devi explained.

Activists say this kind of reaction demonstrates the difficulty in eradicating the caste system. Discrimination on the basis of caste is illegal in India, but the practice is still entrenched in rural areas, where the kind of work you do, and who you can eat with, is largely divided along caste lines.

“We low-caste people are treated like dirt,” said low-cast villager Umi Devi. “The upper castes order us about, they tell us, ‘Stay on one side, wash the utensils, sit there’-- anything to humiliate us. They want us to remain low and never rise up.”

As for the government, it is most willing to bridge social divisions and says legal action will be taken against villagers who oppose Dalit cooks in schools.
India



India

So you quote a single article about a few cases and suddenly you assume that it is widespread?
I could quote 10 articles about dalits striving in their fields. People like you are not worth arguing with

[ares]

India’s low-caste still “untouchables”

Published: 09 August, 2010, 07:22

In the traditional Hindu society, caste prejudice is illegal but it is still an issue for many, especially when it comes to the “ritually impured.”

The so-called Dalits, or “untouchables,” are not allowed to get involved with the upper caste in any way.

It is a problem that’s been simmering, but now Soni Devi says it’s fast reaching the boiling point. She is a newly-appointed cook in this primary school in Jaanipur. She is there to prepare the government-funded midday meal.

But despite Soni’s best intentions, some of the students turn their noses up at her culinary creations, because she is a Dalit. In traditional Hindu society, only upper-caste cooks are allowed to cook community meals.

“Some upper-caste children don’t want to eat food made by me,” she said. “Their parents consider the food polluted by my touch. What can I do? I’m here to make lunch in this school. I treat the children here just like my own kids.”

120 million children across India receive a mid-day meal every working day, in the largest school lunch program in the world. But when the Education Ministry decided to send Dalit cooks to village schools, where the majority of pupils are upper-caste Hindus, many found that too hard to swallow.

“The mid-day meal can entice poor parents to send their children to school. The kids look forward to it. But there are some parents who don’t want their children to eat food made by low-caste people and have removed their children from here, and also threatened us as well,” said school principal Ram Kumar Pathak.

Meet the Singh family, a member of the upper caste Rajput community. They refused to allow their 10-year old son Parmanand to continue studying in a school which they felt didn’t respect their customs, and pulled him out immediately.

“We are upper caste. We believe strongly in the caste system. We cannot eat food made or touched by somebody from a lower caste. That’s why we moved our child from this government school and put him into a private one,” Parmanand’s mother Gita Devi explained.

Activists say this kind of reaction demonstrates the difficulty in eradicating the caste system. Discrimination on the basis of caste is illegal in India, but the practice is still entrenched in rural areas, where the kind of work you do, and who you can eat with, is largely divided along caste lines.

“We low-caste people are treated like dirt,” said low-cast villager Umi Devi. “The upper castes order us about, they tell us, ‘Stay on one side, wash the utensils, sit there’-- anything to humiliate us. They want us to remain low and never rise up.”

As for the government, it is most willing to bridge social divisions and says legal action will be taken against villagers who oppose Dalit cooks in schools.
India



India

If some body does not want to eat food with another..how is it comparable to suicide blasts?

[Whiplash]

LOL. You can play with words all day, but that doesn't change the fact the caste system exists. Second of all, this program although with good intentions will most likely render the lower classes with new stereotypes, and create animosty between other classes, that do not recieve help. I think you're so engaged in proving me wrong, that you're being irrational.

You have no idea about the ground situation. There are many upper caste people who fake to be lower caste in order to avail benefits. this unique ID system was created to prevent that. Atleast thats one of its major purposes. Hence the caste name in the ID. I know you still wont believe me.. So I invite you to see India for yourself. Travel here once. You wont be disappointed.
I'm going to go study now. Peace brothers.

[ares]

LOL. You can play with words all day, but that doesn't change the fact the caste system exists. Second of all, this program although with good intentions will most likely render the lower classes with new stereotypes, and create animosty between other classes, that do not recieve help. I think you're so engaged in proving me wrong, that you're being irrational.

Well this program has be on for last 60 yrs ..and because of this program..people who were once dirt poor are now the law makers in this country.

[Spring Onion]

So you quote a single article about a few cases and suddenly you assume that it is widespread?
I could quote 10 articles about dalits striving in their fields. People like you are not worth arguing with

again you are denying and shying away from accepting the reality. its just one example there are plenty of them in India also dont you know low cast Hindus are not allowed in even in certain temples despite the efforts by MPs. which shows the change is needed at ground level for changing mentality of people and govt cant change anything as long as mentality of your people about cast system is not changed.

few dalits excelling in their fields is altogether another thing and practicing cast system against an entire community is another

[Spring Onion]

If some body does not want to eat food with another..how is it comparable to suicide blasts?

NOT comparable because suicide blasts are creation of terrorists not our faith whereas cast discrimination is incorporated in your faith.

a big difference between terrorism and a common practice

[ares]

People are against eating with lower caste hindus but do readily elect them as chief ministers of states..theres got to be some thing wrong in this narrative!!

[Whiplash]

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again you are denying and shying away from accepting the reality. its just one example there are plenty of them in India also dont you know low cast Hindus are not allowed in even in certain temples despite the efforts by MPs. which shows the change is needed at ground level for changing mentality of people and govt cant change anything as long as mentality of your people about cast system is not changed.

few dalits excelling in their fields is altogether another thing and practicing cast system against an entire community is another

CERTAIN temples! CERTAIN places. CERTAIN people!
When will you understand! I agree there is oppression. But it is rare. Now go live in Janaland. I'm leaving