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    India takes control of Tibetan leader Karmapa's land

    Himachal Pradesh government on Tuesday transferred the ownership of the palatial residence of Tibetan religious leader Karmapa Ogyen Trinley Dorje to its name, but officials ruled out the possibility of taking physical possession of the property.

    A team of revenue officials comprising sub-district officer Naresh Sharma completed the formalities to transfer to the state the mutation of the land on which the Gyuto Tantric University and Monastery was built before 2000.

    Sharma said that now the monastery land is owned by the government.

    "Earlier, the title of the land was registered in the fake name of Dile Ram and Prem Singh," he said, adding that "the ownership process was completed with the consent of the Karmapa-backed Karmae Garchen Trust".

    Kangra Deputy Commissioner RS Gupta said it was a routine revenue exercise.

    "The exercise to vest properties by the government declared by the Tibetan government-in-exile has been on since 2006. The Karmapa monastery is also one of them. It is a routine revenue formality."

    Revenue officials said so far mutation of more than 40 properties in and around Dharamsala owned by the government-in-exile has been transferred in the name of the state.

    Gupta, however, said "vesting the ownership doesn't mean immediate taking control of the property by the government".

    Officials in the revenue department said the government started vesting properties after the government-in-exile provided a list of 73 properties owned by it, seeking their regularisation. As part of exercise, the government has started taking mutation of properties in its name after verification of revenue records.

    "After vesting the ownership, the government will further lease out the properties to the Tibetan administration on its request by charging 10 per cent of the property value as lease money," said the officials.

    Gupta said the process for transferring the properties on a long-term lease to the government-in-exile would start only after all the properties were vested by the government.

    Interestingly, the Gyuto monastery was built before 2000 by the Tibetan administration but on revenue papers it was shown that its land was purchased in November 2002.

    Under Himachal Pradesh land laws, only the state's permanent residents can buy land in the state. Others who want to purchase land for non-agricultural purposes have to seek relaxations under Section 118 of the Land Reforms and Tenancy Act from the state government.

    The 17th Karmapa, Ogyen Trinley Dorje, came into limelight following the recovery of nearly Rs.70 million worth of foreign and Indian currency from his monastery last month.

    The raids on the monastery were conducted after police arrested two people at Mehatpur in Una district of Himachal Pradesh Jan 25 and recovered unaccounted Rs 1 crore from them.

    During interrogation, they claimed that the seized money was a payment made by the Karmapa's trust to buy land near Dharamsala.

    Police believe that the seized money was meant for some "illegal" land deal with the involvement of Karmapa's aide Rubgi Chosang, also known as Shakti Lama, who is in police custody along with eight others.

    Denying all allegations, the Karmapa has told the investigating agencies that the money seized during the raids on his monastery was given by his devotees and he was not managing the financial affairs.

    The Karmapa fled Tibet and sought refuge in India in January 2000. Ever since, he has mostly lived in the monastery in Sidhbari near Dharamsala - the seat of the Tibetan government-in-exile.

    Himachal government takes control of Karmapa's land - Hindustan Times
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    Himachal Pradesh Government - Bharatiya Janata Party

    Looks like BJP & CPC good friends.........

    Heavy crackdown comes after BJP Leader visited China


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    Default Re: India takes control of Tibetan leader Karmapa's land

    This has nothing to do with China...
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    Default Re: India takes control of Tibetan leader Karmapa's land

    The Karmapa Lama is one of the few Tibetan spiritual leaders still recognized by the Chinese government.

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    Default Re: India takes control of Tibetan leader Karmapa's land

    Quote Originally Posted by Kanna View Post
    Himachal Pradesh Government - Bharatiya Janata Party

    Looks like BJP & CPC good friends.........

    Heavy crackdown comes after BJP Leader visited China


    dude,BJP is more aggressive than Congress and BJP is more nationalistic....

    BJP & CPC good friends ... that's funny

    When BJP comes to power,i can't imagine wat will happen to separatists...

    I hope they will win the centre elections next time...
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    Default Re: India takes control of Tibetan leader Karmapa's land

    For all the talk of Indian-Tibetan friendship and respect for spiritual leaders, where is the outrage?

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    Default Re: India takes control of Tibetan leader Karmapa's land

    BJP more pro china?rofl:
    Dear SriLanka aka Kanna,you have no sense of diplomacy!!
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    Default Re: India takes control of Tibetan leader Karmapa's land

    Ok friends, i may be wrong but the issue is - Revenue officials said so far mutation of more than 40 properties in and around Dharamsala owned by the government-in-exile has been transferred in the name of the state.



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    Why is this being ignored? Come on! Where is the Indian outrage at the disrespect of a holy spiritual leader, and for the rights of their Tibetan kin.

    Could it be that Indians will only support the Tibetans when they are used as a bludgeon against China and that they actually couldn't give a fcuk?
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    Default Re: India takes control of Tibetan leader Karmapa's land

    No foreign citizen can own land in India, it's a well known fact. India doesn't consider Tibet as a part of India.

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    Default Re: India takes control of Tibetan leader Karmapa's land

    Quote Originally Posted by CardSharp View Post
    Why is this being ignored? Come on! Where is the Indian outrage at the disrespect of a holy spiritual leader, and for the rights of their Tibetan kin.

    Could it be that Indians will only support the Tibetans when they are used as a bludgeon against China and that they actually couldn't give a fcuk?
    now u can sleep comfortably
    Centre gives clean chit to Karmapa in foreign currency haul case

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    Default Re: India takes control of Tibetan leader Karmapa's land

    CardSharp you need to spend some time reading up on the Karmapa. He is very suspect in the eyes of Tibetans and Indians for being a Chinese stooge and puppet.

    There is only one Tibetan leader and that is the one and only Dalai Lama! I hope that he is healthy and thrives for a 100 more years.

    Now go easy on the fake outrage. What do they say about crocodile tears?

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    This is hilarious. When China says the Dalai Lama is a western stooge, India says Chinese people are paranoid and can fcuk off. Now the Karmapa is both given a clean slate by prism and a chinese stooge according to doe boy.

    Should I give you boys some time to get your story straight?
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    Quote Originally Posted by CardSharp View Post
    This is hilarious. When China says the Dalai Lama is a western stooge, India says Chinese people are paranoid and can fcuk off.
    And theres actually definitive proof of that. CIA released their funding of the Dalai Lama a while ago.


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