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Well, i've been in a shitshow with these VietKongs, along with other Indonesian forumers like Nufix, Striver44 and Sis Marine Rouge, in the thread about that video of Viet CG ramming Indonesian Navy Parchim Corvette. They're kinda funny, the first one i talked to was delusional and repeatedly sprouting nonsense that Viet public wants a war with Indonesia, but then we roasted him and then he cried out for the mods, writing love letter and accusing us of being trolls (while he's the bigger troll obviously). The second one apparently a "senior" member of this forum and is quite stubborn, but like to make stupid assumption out of nowhere, and is quite elitist despite coming from a socialist country. The third one was apparently a VietKong Pilot, quite dumb and can't control his words, many backfired to him and his friends.

What i observed is that, there's a damn good reason of why they were often ravaged by war, as diplomacy is not really their strongest suite, and it seems like they easily made new enemy, like, it was first just Indo vs Viet trashtalk, but then the Chinese, the Pakistanis and the Indians came and felt insulted by these Viets' reckless statements, and then join our side in the trashtalk.

Diplomacy is not really parts of their foreign policy as they using it solely to pursue economy policy and military program. They not using it to handle diplomatic crisis and foreign issue, along they dont have much guidance for regional group issues
 
Well reading their threads i know something sick/lost in their minds that i know the best not to interact with those lunatics.
If you don't mind, can you give some examples? so far i knew that they really like to talk about their victory against Pol Pot, and call every other ASEAN country who's against them as just like "Cambodian, Khmer, eating with hand?" and even go East-Asian-Wannabe by using the word "barbarian". Funny, how their 230 billion USD GDP and 2000 USD GDP per capita is such an astounding achievement for them that they dared to call themselves superior and feels they are the best and strongest ASEAN country. Is it a long-term side effect of agent orange?

I agree that it's just not worth it to interact with these MFs, they aren't going to change their attitude with us confronting them anyway.
 
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If you don't mind, can you give some examples? so far i knew that they really like to talk about their victory against Pol Pot, and call every other ASEAN country who's against them as just like "Cambodian, Khmer, eating with hand?" and even go East-Asian-Wannabe by using the word "barbarian". Funny, how their 230 billion USD GDP and 2000 USD GDP per capita is such an astounding achievement for them that they dared to call themselves superior and feels they are the best and strongest ASEAN country. Is it a long-term side effect of agent orange?
You see i don't want to disclose my proffesion in real life but i know things about Psychiatric Medicine. 1st for example when there was a threads discussing like recent US China Trade War, they suddenly jumped in however instead of talking something related to main topic which was Trade War, they talked about 1979 Sino Vietnam War which actually had no correlation with the topics or other things like ancient Han issue which also unrelated that however appears like " Flight of Ideas " jumping from one idea to another in short time and unrelated with previous topics, 2nd we seem aware they have " Delusion of Grandeur ", false idea of sensing superiority above all else, that's pretty clear and then we don't even know their current state of mental whether they're still realistic or psychotic and last how long they have suffer from these. Reading their threads remind me days of clinical years in Psychiatric Hospital which why i don't want to interact with them. These people are troubled in mind and their social interaction encourages their symptoms grow and grow rooted.
 
DIPLOMACY
i'll just gonna copy paste and leave it here

In March, Siti Aisyah's murder charge was dismissed, and she was released.[148] It was later revealed by both the Indonesian and Vietnamese media that her release was due to a request letter sent by the Indonesian government, which received a response from the Malaysian attorney general Tommy Thomas,[144][145][146] this was later admitted by Thomas and confirmed by Reuters,[149]although Thomas refused to respond to other media sources when asked to comment on the decision.[150][151] On March 13, Minister in the Prime Minister's Department Liew Vui Keong further explained to the media that the power to dismiss charges against any individual in the country rests with the nation's attorney general as established in the constitution.[152] Despite similar callings from the Vietnamese government to release their citizen in the manner of the Indonesian suspect,[153] the Malaysian prosecutors rejected the request and said the trial would continue to proceed with a postponement until April 1 due to the defendant's poor health and psychological condition since she had not slept for the past three nights following the abrupt decision by the Malaysian attorney general to drop the charges against Aisyah.[154][155] The defence lawyers for Hương felt the Malaysian government was practicing discrimination in the judiciary system since the court before has stated it found a prima facie case against both of the accused but only released one of them, providing reasons for doing so such as "taking consideration of good relations between Indonesia and Malaysia thus agreed to the passage of nolle prosequi for Aisyah" as evidenced from the recent discovery of hidden letter delivered by the attorney general of Malaysia to the Indonesian Ministry of Law and Human Rights as a response towards their appeal request.[154][156] the Malaysian attorney general's different treatment towards the two suspects in the case attracted criticism from the member of Malaysian government itself, one of them being Ramkarpal Singh, the Malaysian Member of Parliament for Bukit Gelugor who felt that Thomas's refusal to withdraw the murder charge against the second suspect was "mind boggling and raises questions about the powers of attorney general in the country".
Vietnamese Foreign Affairs MinistrySpokeswoman Lê Thị Thu Hằng regretted the Malaysian attorney generals decision and called for a fair trial on the case.[159] Her statement was echoed by other Vietnamese ministers, such as Foreign Minister Phạm Bình Minh, Deputy Foreign Minister Nguyễn Quốc Dũng, as well as Vietnamese ambassador to Malaysia Lê Quý Quỳnh.[160][161] In Indonesia, the shocking release of Siti Aisyah also become a polemic since there are sources stating the release as a result of political lobbying by the Indonesian government towards the Malaysian government since the administration of previous Malaysian Prime Minister Najib Razak until Mahathir Mohamadadministration, despite Mahathir's refusal to acknowledge the claim and stressing the release was done based on the "rule of law".[162][163][164] Bridget Welsh, a Southeast Asia expert with John Cabot University in Rome of Italy had pointed out that the unfair and discriminated decision practiced by the Malaysian judiciary will risk a "thorny bilateralproblem with Vietnam if there is no similar treatment towards their citizen".[165]Malaysian Chinese Association (MCA) President Wee Ka Siong also expressed his concern over possible meddling in the trial outcome that would undermine the independence of the Malaysian attorney general, citing his obtained reply to a written question during a Parliament session in Malaysia where Prime Minister Mahathir said to him that the attorney general could still follow his directive even though the attorney general had the discretion to decide on the timeline for criminal prosecution procedures.[166] His statement was followed by the party spokeswoman Chan Quin Er who observed the early statement made by Ramkarpal are in line to hold the justice in the country fairly, stressing that "everyone was equal before the law and that the law should not discriminate", adding to her perception on the "Malaysian judiciary that have been compromised due to exaggerated politicking will be a sad day for the country much over when the preference of racial and religious similarities between Indonesia and Malaysia become the reason for the charges against Siti Aisyah to be dropped but not for Hương despite both are under similar charges".[167]

Outgoing President of the Malaysian BarGeorge Varughese similarly expressed his opinion that although he believes the attorney general may have his own reason, the latter are still required to explained his reasons for the dropping of charges on only one of the two accused, than remain silent to avoid speculation that undermine the integrity of the country judiciary systems.[168] Other Malaysian lawyers see the dropping of charges towards Siti Aisyah as a definite discrimination towards Hương, not only in the sense of the country justice system but also to the eye of public who mostly want a fair and transparent trial as being voiced by lawyer Nur Hannan Ishak.[169] He further adds that it is strange that the prosecutors choose to pursue the case for Hương but not Siti Aisyah since if a retraction of charges has been made for Siti Aisyah based on the same accused's factor, then the same should be done for Hương.[169] According to lawyer Shaharuddin Ali, the strategic importance relations between two involved countries has nothing to do with the law but this power are indeed given in the hands for national lawyers where the consideration covers broad things with the lawyer is entitled to decide whether to prosecute a person, to release, to stop the prosecution or to reduce the charge from serious to non-serious etc. according to the basis of public interest under law perspectives despite they are still entitled to taking into consideration of the strategic diplomatic relations between Malaysia and Indonesia.[169] Another Malaysian lawyer Rajsurian Pillai pointed out the same view with lawyer Shaharuddin and explained to the media that it is undeniably the only single reason why the prosecutor dropped Siti Aisyah's charges are primarily politically motivated by taking into the consideration of close relationship between Malaysia and Indonesia since the court had already found a prima facie case against both of the accused without needing to drop the charges that has been made towards Aisyah.[169]

On 1 April 2019, the murder charge against Hương was dropped, and she pleaded guilty to the lesser charge of "voluntarily causing hurt by dangerous weapons or means".[170]She was sentenced to three years and four months in prison, but received a one-third reduction in her term, and was released on 3 May 2019.[171][172]
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_of_Kim_Jong-nam

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:cheers:ID - MY :cheers:
Well sometimes there is a hiccup in relationship between two country, but we a re still serumpun.

" Delusion of Grandeur ", false idea of sensing superiority above all else,
There's a lot of indonesian that act like that on internet, we supa puwa, we wuz kang and sheit, luckily not in this forum(maybe one of you that lurking in this thread is one of them?) if there is one let just 'deradicalize' them.
We need to red pill them and bring them to jalan yang benar.
 
You see i don't want to disclose my proffesion in real life but i know things about Psychiatric Medicine. 1st for example when there was a threads discussing like recent US China Trade War, they suddenly jumped in however instead of talking something related to main topic which was Trade War, they talked about 1979 Sino Vietnam War which actually had no correlation with the topics or other things like ancient Han issue which also unrelated that however appears like " Flight of Ideas " jumping from one idea to another in short time and unrelated with previous topics, 2nd we seem aware they have " Delusion of Grandeur ", false idea of sensing superiority above all else, that's pretty clear and then we don't even know their current state of mental whether they're still realistic or psychotic and last how long they have suffer from these. Reading their threads remind me days of clinical years in Psychiatric Hospital which why i don't want to interact with them. These people are troubled in mind and their social interaction encourages their symptoms grow and grow rooted.
The most hilarious one was when one of them talked about their Sea-Mines out of the blue..

There's a lot of indonesian that act like that on internet, we supa puwa, we wuz kang and sheit, luckily not in this forum(maybe one of you that lurking in this thread is one of them?) if there is one let just 'deradicalize' them.
We need to red pill them and bring them to jalan yang benar.

Most of the 'awam' ones are on Instagram. Either those who always think "iNdOnEsIa SeTrOnK" or those who always identify every firearms as "AWM from PUBG".
 
DIPLOMACY
i'll just gonna copy paste and leave it here

In March, Siti Aisyah's murder charge was dismissed, and she was released.[148] It was later revealed by both the Indonesian and Vietnamese media that her release was due to a request letter sent by the Indonesian government, which received a response from the Malaysian attorney general Tommy Thomas,[144][145][146] this was later admitted by Thomas and confirmed by Reuters,[149]although Thomas refused to respond to other media sources when asked to comment on the decision.[150][151] On March 13, Minister in the Prime Minister's Department Liew Vui Keong further explained to the media that the power to dismiss charges against any individual in the country rests with the nation's attorney general as established in the constitution.[152] Despite similar callings from the Vietnamese government to release their citizen in the manner of the Indonesian suspect,[153] the Malaysian prosecutors rejected the request and said the trial would continue to proceed with a postponement until April 1 due to the defendant's poor health and psychological condition since she had not slept for the past three nights following the abrupt decision by the Malaysian attorney general to drop the charges against Aisyah.[154][155] The defence lawyers for Hương felt the Malaysian government was practicing discrimination in the judiciary system since the court before has stated it found a prima facie case against both of the accused but only released one of them, providing reasons for doing so such as "taking consideration of good relations between Indonesia and Malaysia thus agreed to the passage of nolle prosequi for Aisyah" as evidenced from the recent discovery of hidden letter delivered by the attorney general of Malaysia to the Indonesian Ministry of Law and Human Rights as a response towards their appeal request.[154][156] the Malaysian attorney general's different treatment towards the two suspects in the case attracted criticism from the member of Malaysian government itself, one of them being Ramkarpal Singh, the Malaysian Member of Parliament for Bukit Gelugor who felt that Thomas's refusal to withdraw the murder charge against the second suspect was "mind boggling and raises questions about the powers of attorney general in the country".
Vietnamese Foreign Affairs MinistrySpokeswoman Lê Thị Thu Hằng regretted the Malaysian attorney generals decision and called for a fair trial on the case.[159] Her statement was echoed by other Vietnamese ministers, such as Foreign Minister Phạm Bình Minh, Deputy Foreign Minister Nguyễn Quốc Dũng, as well as Vietnamese ambassador to Malaysia Lê Quý Quỳnh.[160][161] In Indonesia, the shocking release of Siti Aisyah also become a polemic since there are sources stating the release as a result of political lobbying by the Indonesian government towards the Malaysian government since the administration of previous Malaysian Prime Minister Najib Razak until Mahathir Mohamadadministration, despite Mahathir's refusal to acknowledge the claim and stressing the release was done based on the "rule of law".[162][163][164] Bridget Welsh, a Southeast Asia expert with John Cabot University in Rome of Italy had pointed out that the unfair and discriminated decision practiced by the Malaysian judiciary will risk a "thorny bilateralproblem with Vietnam if there is no similar treatment towards their citizen".[165]Malaysian Chinese Association (MCA) President Wee Ka Siong also expressed his concern over possible meddling in the trial outcome that would undermine the independence of the Malaysian attorney general, citing his obtained reply to a written question during a Parliament session in Malaysia where Prime Minister Mahathir said to him that the attorney general could still follow his directive even though the attorney general had the discretion to decide on the timeline for criminal prosecution procedures.[166] His statement was followed by the party spokeswoman Chan Quin Er who observed the early statement made by Ramkarpal are in line to hold the justice in the country fairly, stressing that "everyone was equal before the law and that the law should not discriminate", adding to her perception on the "Malaysian judiciary that have been compromised due to exaggerated politicking will be a sad day for the country much over when the preference of racial and religious similarities between Indonesia and Malaysia become the reason for the charges against Siti Aisyah to be dropped but not for Hương despite both are under similar charges".[167]

Outgoing President of the Malaysian BarGeorge Varughese similarly expressed his opinion that although he believes the attorney general may have his own reason, the latter are still required to explained his reasons for the dropping of charges on only one of the two accused, than remain silent to avoid speculation that undermine the integrity of the country judiciary systems.[168] Other Malaysian lawyers see the dropping of charges towards Siti Aisyah as a definite discrimination towards Hương, not only in the sense of the country justice system but also to the eye of public who mostly want a fair and transparent trial as being voiced by lawyer Nur Hannan Ishak.[169] He further adds that it is strange that the prosecutors choose to pursue the case for Hương but not Siti Aisyah since if a retraction of charges has been made for Siti Aisyah based on the same accused's factor, then the same should be done for Hương.[169] According to lawyer Shaharuddin Ali, the strategic importance relations between two involved countries has nothing to do with the law but this power are indeed given in the hands for national lawyers where the consideration covers broad things with the lawyer is entitled to decide whether to prosecute a person, to release, to stop the prosecution or to reduce the charge from serious to non-serious etc. according to the basis of public interest under law perspectives despite they are still entitled to taking into consideration of the strategic diplomatic relations between Malaysia and Indonesia.[169] Another Malaysian lawyer Rajsurian Pillai pointed out the same view with lawyer Shaharuddin and explained to the media that it is undeniably the only single reason why the prosecutor dropped Siti Aisyah's charges are primarily politically motivated by taking into the consideration of close relationship between Malaysia and Indonesia since the court had already found a prima facie case against both of the accused without needing to drop the charges that has been made towards Aisyah.[169]

On 1 April 2019, the murder charge against Hương was dropped, and she pleaded guilty to the lesser charge of "voluntarily causing hurt by dangerous weapons or means".[170]She was sentenced to three years and four months in prison, but received a one-third reduction in her term, and was released on 3 May 2019.[171][172]
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_of_Kim_Jong-nam

Indonesian_Government_Letter_to_Malaysian_Government_for_the_Release_of_Siti_Aisyah.jpg

Respond_Letter_from_the_Malaysian_Attorney_General_for_the_Release_of_Siti_Aisyah.jpg

:cheers:ID - MY :cheers:
Well sometimes there is a hiccup in relationship between two country, but we a re still serumpun.


There's a lot of indonesian that act like that on internet, we supa puwa, we wuz kang and sheit, luckily not in this forum(maybe one of you that lurking in this thread is one of them?) if there is one let just 'deradicalize' them.
We need to red pill them and bring them to jalan yang benar.
No leave them be, what is life without people like them at least i can enjoy a good laugh reading them fortunately they don't embarass themself and Indonesia in this international english speaking forum

The most hilarious one was when one of them talked about their Sea-Mines out of the blue..



Most of the 'awam' ones are on Instagram. Either those who always think "iNdOnEsIa SeTrOnK" or those who always identify every firearms as "AWM from PUBG".
If something can be done to them perhaps a certificate declaring they're troubled in mind in this forum, an award for their " Sea Mines ", " Sino Vietnam War " or etc they like to talk
 
here's a lot of indonesian that act like that on internet, we supa puwa, we wuz kang and sheit, luckily not in this forum(maybe one of you that lurking in this thread is one of them?) if there is one let just 'deradicalize' them.
We need to red pill them and bring them to jalan yang benar.
Depends on the "red pill", honestly Indonesians fighting each other on the internet is among the most unpleasant thing to watch, but the thing that i absolutely despise is when an Indonesian bashing Indonesia the country, just to "red-pill" another Indonesian.

At least bash the person, not the country, if some kid over the internet making stupid "Indonesia supa powa" comment, then it's the kid's fault, it's the kid specifically that needs to be "straightened-up", but then some Indonesian insults and judged Indonesia, their own country just to make a point , that's just stupid and disrespectful.
 
Latihan Landing dan Take Off Heli bagi Calon Awak KRI Teluk Kupang

26 Juli 2019



Latihan landing dan take off heli Panther (photos : Koarmada2)

Surabaya – Komando Latihan (Kolat) Koarmada II menggelar pelatihan teori dan praktek Pengenalan Helly Deck Party dan memberikan Kursus FDC kepada 30 prajurit Calon Pengawak (Cawak) KRI Teluk Kupang-519 yang mengikuti Pelatihan Kursus penyiapan pengadaan kapal (KPPK), bertempat di RON 400 Wing Udara Puspenerbal Juanda. Rabu (24/07/2019).

Latihan yang telah berjalan selam tiga hari tersebut tidak hanya diikuti oleh para cawak prajurit KRI baru (KPPK), namun juga di ikuti oleh prajurit KRI dari Satuan Kapal Eskorta (Satkor) Koarmada II yaitu KRI sigma class seperti KRI Diponegoro-365, KRI Sultan Iskandar Muda-367 dan KRI Frans Kaisiepo – 368.




Helly Deck Party merupakan kegiatan memandu Helly saat take off dan Landing di atas geladak KRI, meliputi penyiapan alat peralatan, manuver kapal dalam menentukan arah angin dan memandu Helly saat akan Take off maupun Landing di atas KRI.

Koarmada II sebagai Kotama Pembinaan yang memiliki kapal perang jenis angkut dan dilengkapi dengan geladak Helly, harus didukung prajurit pengawak KRI yang memiliki kemampuan melaksanakan helly deck party.



KRI Teluk Kupang 519 yang sempat tersendat pembangunannya (photo : Ang Tjeng Yan)

“Oleh karena itu, sebagai Satuan Pelaksana Pembinaan, Koarmada II melaksanakan latihan helly deck party secara berkesinambungan, bertingkat dan berlanjut dengan tujuan untuk menjaga dan meningkatkan kemampuan prajurit dalam memandu dan mengendalikan helly dari darat dan ke KRI untuk mendukung kemampuan calon pengawak KRI “, terang Dankolat Koarmada II Kolonel Laut (P) Arif Badrudin.

Adapun materi yang diberikan kepada peserta latihan meliputi Prosedur Take Off dan Landing Helly di darat dan di Kapal pada siang hari dan malam hari, Prosedur Marshalling, Perlengkapan Marshaller dan Isyarat Marshaller (General Marshalling Signal), Prosedur komunikasi dan Cross Landing Procedure.

Dalam latihan tersebut bertindak selaku Instruktur dari Tim MTT Kolat Koarmada II dan tim Ron 400 Wing Udara Puspenerbal Juanda.

(Paradigma Bangsa)
 
Looks like kaum alay do not discover this forum yet or dare to comment. But one day, I'm sure they will come, somehow...

disini masih ada yg ngaskus, itu thread formil kok pada digembokin gitu?
Padahal ane sempat berhasil ngeramain lagi dengan threat misil bvr india....
 
Most of the 'awam' ones are on Instagram. Either those who always think "iNdOnEsIa SeTrOnK" or those who always identify every firearms as "AWM from PUBG".
Lel
No leave them be, what is life without people like them at least i can enjoy a good laugh reading them fortunately they don't embarass themself and Indonesia in this international english speaking forum
Bruh
Depends on the "red pill", honestly Indonesians fighting each other on the internet is among the most unpleasant thing to watch, but the thing that i absolutely despise is when an Indonesian bashing Indonesia the country, just to "red-pill" another Indonesian.

At least bash the person, not the country, if some kid over the internet making stupid "Indonesia supa powa" comment, then it's the kid's fault, it's the kid specifically that needs to be "straightened-up", but then some Indonesian insults and judged Indonesia, their own country just to make a point , that's just stupid and disrespectful.
Bashing their logic and thinking, red pilling them why yakhont should not be installed in our LPD, complexity about wanting s-500 and F35 etc etc pretty much they said whatever they want.
Apparently there's many website or blogs that supporting this kind of dissease, and many youtube channel too. It's kinda like providing fap material for them, ya know kinda like a p#rnh*b for them, LOL senam otak.
Super duper title and contents for view counts which would give $ from ads, cheap trick.
We are OOT too far now
BTW Talking about diplomacy, our 'half assed' foreign policy is doing a good job, imagine if we put more priority in FA.

Indonesia-led Asean Troika meets Piyush Goyal
The dialogue was frank, open and positive. We will work towards addressing India’s concerns.” Indonesia is the RCEP coordinator and leads the troika that also comprises Thailand’s trade minister and the Asean secretary general.
NEW DELHI: The Asean troika led by Indonesia had a “fruitful” and “very frank” dialogue with India on the Regional Comprehensive Economic Partnership (RCEP) and efforts are on to address Delhi’s concerns ahead of a meeting on the proposed trade agreement in China later this month, Indonesian trade minister Enggartiasto Lukita has told ET.
“Efforts are ongoing to substantially conclude RCEP by end of 2019,” Lukita said after meeting commerce and industry minister Piyush Goyal here on Tuesday. “We had very good and very fruitful meeting with the Indian commerce minister.
The dialogue was frank, open and positive. We will work towards addressing India’s concerns.” Indonesia is the RCEP coordinator and leads the troika that also comprises Thailand’s trade minister and the Asean secretary general.
“It is not India alone that has concerns over elements of RCEP. Indonesia also has some concerns, which we are trying to address,” Lukita pointed out while stating that he remains hopeful that India’s interests can be safeguarded in RCEP. “This meeting helped in developing better understanding of India’s concerns,” the minister noted.
RCEP is a proposed regional economic integration agreement among the 10 Asean countries and its six free-trade agreement partners—Australia, New Zealand, Japan, China, South Korea and India.
https://m.economictimes.com/news/po...a-meets-piyush-goyal/articleshow/70267635.cms

And also that 'ASEAN Indo Pacific outlook'
 
Order from Boeing & Saab to aircraft model maker Sidh/art/a
Credit to Fb page Sidh/art/a
Saab order Erieye AEWC
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Boeing order KC-46A & Wedgetail AEWC
1st livery
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Boeing order 2nd livery KC-46A
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Boeing order 2nd livery Wedgetail AEWC
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I like boeing 1st livery, AU seriously need to update their camo and livery. At some aircraft, their are too conspicuous
 
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Continuation the previous article i shared from TNI official site. If you pay attention on the institution name CCIB, you figure it out.

Air Commodore Arif Mustofa ( TNI-AU ) during Exercise Red Flag 2019 in Elmendorf Richardson AFB, Alaska.
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Credit to Angkasa Review
Foto dgn latar belakang ginian yg sering bikin kontroversi..ga lama lg muncul berbagai macam teori..
 

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