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why ?

could you elabrate is to why is the f22 a better model
in all aspects

Design,
weapon capabilty and so on

compare to pak-fa

cuz its is more stealth, it is experienced. And for Pak-FA, it isn't coming anytime soon as Russian Airforce is buying Su-35, SU-30 M2s in the coming years, and only 50 T-50s. Now tell me if I am an Air force chief and I see a promising project like PAK-FA in hands, why would i go for inferior airctafts? ok leave aside SU-30M2 which is MRF, SU-35 is an ASF (Like Pak-Fa) and they are buying it instead of PAK-FA what has happened to them? thirdly, still the systems and engines of PAK-FA are still in development. here is an extract from RIANOVOSTI, eventhough they brag more than the facts but sometimes they do admit it mistakenly
The Russian Air Force will receive more than 60 fifth-generation fighters from 2015-16, the force commander said on Tuesday.

"The Air Force will start taking delivery [of fifth-generation fighters] in 2015-16. The preliminary number is over 60," Col. Gen. Alexander Zelin said.

He also said the first batch of new fighters would be provided with older, "non-fifth" generation engines.
(WTH?....Non Fifth gen engines powering a "5th" gen "Raptor class" fighter?):lol:

In mid-June Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin observed the 16th test flight of a prototype fighter.

Deputy Defense Minister for Arms Procurement Vladimir Popovkin said the Defense Ministry would purchase the first 6 to 10 aircraft after 2012, based on the outcome of initial tests. He said the fighter will be superior to similar U.S. models.
(and they are buying SU-35s and SU-30M2s and upgrading Russian Air Force to Upgrade MiG-31s?)
The prime minister said 30 billion rubles (around $1 billion) had already been spent on the project and another 30 billion would be required to complete it, after which the engine, weaponry and other components would be upgraded. (lol....A 5th gen in only in 1 Billion USDs?)

He said the fighter would have a service life of 30-35 years, if modernization and upgrades are factored in, and would be around three times cheaper than its foreign analogs

Russia's only known fifth-generation project is Sukhoi's PAK FA and the current prototype is the T-50. It is designed to compete with the U.S. F-22 Raptor, so far the world's only fifth-generation fighter, and the F-35 Lightning II.

and now here is the contradiction to above claim
Russia has been developing its newest fighter since the 1990s. The country's top military officials have said the stealth fighter jet with a range of up to 5,500 km should enter service with the Air Force in 2015.

The PAK FA is to be armed with next-generation air-to-air, air-to-surface, and air-to-ship missiles, and has two 30-mm cannons.



MOSCOW, July 13 (RIA Novosti)
Russian military to buy 50 fifth-generation fighters after 2016 | Defense | RIA Novosti
ASIAN DEFENCE: Russia to Buy 50 Fifth-Generation PAK FA Fighters After 2016
Sukhoi completes flight test of Su-30M2 fighter for Russia :: Brahmand.com
Russian Air Force to receive new Su-35 fighters by 2011 | Russia | RIA Novosti
Russian Air Force to Receive T-50 Fighters in 2015 - Air Force Technology
First Russian Su-30M2 Completes Test Flight - Air Force Technology
Russian Air Force to Upgrade MiG-31BM - Air Force Technology
 
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cuz its is more stealth, it is experienced. And for Pak-FA, it isn't coming anytime soon as Russian Airforce is buying Su-35, SU-30 M2s in the coming years, and only 50 T-50s. Now tell me if I am an Air force chief and I see a promising project like PAK-FA in hands, why would i go for inferior airctafts? ok leave aside SU-30M2 which is MRF, SU-35 is an ASF (Like Pak-Fa) and they are buying it instead of PAK-FA what has happened to them? thirdly, still the systems and engines of PAK-FA are still in development. here is an extract from RIANOVOSTI, eventhough they brag more than the facts but sometimes they do admit it mistakenly

What a low level post from senior member

Su 35 and PAkfa have separate role

Why Americans still buying F18 instead of f35 or f22????

Yes PAkFa is in development but how can you say that this is not comparable to f22 ( just because India is partner in program???)

Dont post BS just start technical comparison or visit F22vsPakFa thread ........
 
What a low level post from senior member

Su 35 and PAkfa have separate role

Why Americans still buying F18 instead of f35 or f22????

Yes PAkFa is in development but how can you say that this is not comparable to f22 ( just because India is partner in program???)

Dont post BS just start technical comparison or visit F22vsPakFa thread ........

technical comparison?.......without any details released yet.....:lol::lol:......I wish I could do this irrational thing too, but I wont. (guess I am not Air Power Australia - Home Page :lol:)

Secondly what would be the difference between SU-35 and PAK-FA's role? you can surely elaborate on this for me. cuz given the price tags of both a difference of 30 to 40 million should not tilt the balance in favour of Super flanker but yes, you should certainly enlighten me on this differnece in role.

Thirdly, I made my comparison in context to Russia and USA, I dont know where did I mention Indian dimension in my post so dont drang your national ego in everything

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