How China Stole an Entire Airplane

[antonius123]

Plenty. From IP to actual physical specimens.

I mean related to 5G.

Besides the they are also a mere accusations.

 

[Beast]

But a Soviet spaceship design. So which one is which?

Simple, the bottom one is Chinese shenzhou.

China shenzhou is significantly larger and the whole module is capable of autonomous flight in space unlike soyuz. The re entry craft also boast more boaster for better landing compare to soyuz.

 

[Han Patriot]

From they Big Daddy the Nazis of Germany.

The whole rocket program was basically a German rip off... Lol

LOL, if they stole a Lego set from you, it is their fault; if they stole a laptop from you it's you fault; but if they stole an entire airplane from you, you are just too stupid to deserve. Next, they are going to steal your Space Station, watch out!

Exactly, if someoone can steal so much, whats their cybersecurity team doing?

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

Exactly, if someoone can steal so much, whats their cybersecurity team doing?

This is probably the same logic used by Chinese officials who embezzle millions and then flee the country. "It's not my fault that I stole the money...I only stole the money because the Government wasn't doing their job and protecting it...shame on them"

 

[TNT]

Nothing bad, the US has been first stealing land and then technology from every nation possible. They stole first from nazi germany and then from USSR. The chinese are just making them taste their own medicine.

 

[Menthol]

All technologies are protected with IP.

Even if you know it, you can't sell it.


For people who don't know how IP works and how IP improves humanity, they will eat the article wholesomely.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

Simple, the bottom one is Chinese shenzhou.

China shenzhou is significantly larger and the whole module is capable of autonomous flight in space unlike soyuz. The re entry craft also boast more boaster for better landing compare to soyuz.

Considering the Soyuz was first flown in the mid 1960's and the Shenzou had its first flight in 1999 I would hope China could improve the Soyuz design at least a bit after 35 years.

 

[Pakhtoon yum]

In April 2018, a Chinese intelligence agent named Xu Yanjun arrived in Belgium. He was there for a clandestine meeting with a GE engineer he believed would sell him confidential aircraft technology belonging to GE Aviation. Instead, Xu was met by a team of Belgian police and FBI agents, put into handcuffs, and escorted to a Belgian prison. His arrest, and a subsequent investigation, uncovered one of the most audacious industrial espionage schemes ever conducted by China.

Xu, a deputy division director in the Chinese spy agency JSSD, was allegedly one of the leaders of a scheme to steal information from U.S. and international firms working with the Commercial Aircraft Corporation of China (COMAC). The Chinese company was already partnering with western firms to design and build a new narrow-body jet, the C919. But with the likely approval of COMAC, China’s spy agency decided to quietly steal the western firms’ respective technologies.

An indictment filed in California on October 25, 2018, charged 10 individuals with conspiring to steal aerospace trade secrets from 13 western companies, most of them U.S.-based. The indictment also revealed that French aerospace manufacturer Safran was infiltrated when employees in its Suzhou, China, office inserted malware into the Safran computer network. This malware gave Chinese agents access to Safran’s confidential files.

According to a detailed report by the U.S. cybersecurity firm Crowdstrike, the espionage operation was run by China’s Jiangsu State Security Division (JSSD). Chinese spies recruited engineers at the partner firms either through appeals to misplaced Chinese patriotism, or bribes, or both. One Chinese agent indicted in October 2018 was a GE engineer named Zhang Zhang-Gui. Zhang had traveled to China and given a lecture to a group of Chinese aerospace engineers. At the talk, he allegedly disclosed confidential GE information for a payment of just $3,500. Zhang had arranged the meeting after telling work colleagues he would be attending a family wedding. He later admitted to the FBI that there was no wedding.

What did COMAC gain from its overall espionage operation? Even with help from its western partners, COMAC has experienced significant difficulties in developing the C919 to a point where it could match the performance of major competitors like Boeing and Airbus. Crowdstrike believes that JSSD’s hacking of the various western aerospace companies allowed COMAC to trim “several years (and potentially billions of dollars) off of its development time.”


The C919 story demonstrates the pitfalls of western companies partnering with Chinese firms. Beijing has repeatedly pledged to halt its industrial espionage campaigns. But it has never actually kept its promises.

China stands alone in the world in the way it engages in broad-based, pervasive industrial espionage through the use of human sources, cyber-intrusion, and outright theft across a countless number of industries. According to U.S. Trade Representative Robert Lighthizer, China’s IP theft costs the US between $225 billion and $600 billion each year. And Senator Chuck Schumer (D-NY) has told this author that China’s repeated hacking of U.S. firms represents “the largest case of theft in the history of the world.”

If there is a thief in your neighborhood who sometimes pays for goods, you don’t try to do more business with him. Until China demonstrates a fundamental strategic change and a willingness to live by globally accepted rules for corporate and intellectual property, the U.S. should continue the tariffs imposed in 2018 by the Trump administration. Until then, the United States should do less business with China, not more.

https://www.industryweek.com/the-economy/article/21118569/how-china-stole-an-entire-airplane

Just like the Americans stole all the German tech they could find. What's the difference, hypocrites?

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

Just like the Americans stole all the German tech they could find. What's the difference, hypocrites?

What tech was that? You do realize VonBraun asked Robert Goddard how to make liquid rocket engines.

 

[Pakhtoon yum]

What tech was that? You do realize VonBraun asked Robert Goddard how to make liquid rocket engines.

Oh let's see, rockets, engines, airframes, armor, even the fuking uniforms. Dont play dumb with me yankee doodle.

 

[Beast]

Considering the Soyuz was first flown in the mid 1960's and the Shenzou had its first flight in 1999 I would hope China could improve the Soyuz design at least a bit after 35 years.

At least we still have a working spacecraft after 35years soyuz heritage unlike some country bragging about about going for an unconventional design spacecraft which is dangerous and unsafe. End up piggybag the soyuz spacecraft to ISS which is smaller and inferior to shenzou. See the ironic?

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

At least we still have a working spacecraft after 35years soyuz heritage unlike some country bragging about about going for an unconventional design spacecraft which is dangerous and unsafe. End up piggybag the soyuz spacecraft to ISS which is smaller and inferior to shenzou. See the ironic?

Since when is any spacecraft a "conventional design" ?????
Maybe we can call Soyuz a "proven" old design (like a black&white TV) that China copied.

Don't worry one of our next "unconventional, dangerous, and unsafe" spacecraft designs will be larger than your planned space station.

 

[obj 705A]

American logic: the J-20 was built with stolen plans from the US, Huawei's chipsets are being built with stolen plans from the US, the type 003 is being built with stolen plans from the US, the C919 is using stolen US plans, type 055 is using technology stolen from the US.
conclusion:either the US is being ruled by a bunch of incompetent 10 year olds that is why China is managing to steal all of their civilian & military plans left right & center or the US accusing China of cheating is just another case of a sore loser accusing his competitors of cheating.

 

[TruthHurtz]

What tech was that? You do realize VonBraun asked Robert Goddard how to make liquid rocket engines.

You could literally go back to the Song dynasty with these stupid "who originated what" arguments.

Since when is any spacecraft a "conventional design" ?????
Maybe we can call Soyuz a "proven" old design (like a black&white TV) that China copied.

Don't worry one of our next "unconventional, dangerous, and unsafe" spacecraft designs will be larger than your planned space station.

Dickriding Musk won't get his phallic tintin rocket into space any sooner.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

You could literally go back to the Song dynasty with these stupid "who originated what" arguments.

The liquid fuel pump was the key for liquid rockets.