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Lack of Action on Kashmir - What Are We Waiting For?

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They say nothing is more expensive than a missed opportunity. Pakistan might never have a better chance again to resolve/retake J&K than it has presently but the time is running out.

Up until now many concerns/excuses are presented by the powers that be for their lack of action. Some are listed below;

USA Intervention: With the USA we have a case of misplaced fear because a believer is supposed to fear only the Almighty but let’s call spade a spade; we do fear the USA a lot. For now, the USA is busy putting out fires on the Homefront.

Chinese Support: China has advanced on Ladakh. Indians are dumbfounded and don’t know what to do, yet.

Local Insurgency: There is resistance in J&K from within, albeit very small, but the fire is still burning and only needs more fuel.

Western Border: The release of Taliban captives by Kabul government indicates that enemy proxies are ready to yield, and the friendlies are a shoo-in for a power grab.

Considering all the above I cannot imagine what is Pakistan waiting for? If this is not the time, then when will it be. Provided that the status quo of the past 73 years holds its course, Pakistan will always remain outgunned and outnumbered against India as they have higher purchasing/manufacturing power and population therefore the plan of recovery cannot be put off forever, assuming there is a plan in the first place.

Surely Pakistan cannot be waiting for India to withdraw unconditionally by some miracle so that it can liberate J&K without firing a single shot because hoping for miracle requires faith in the One Almighty who dispense miracles which, honestly speaking, we do not have. The conception of Pakistan was based on the Idea of faith in the Almighty Creator. But we have a case of misplaced faith in weapons, numbers, economics, strategies, compromises etc. I would dare say that calling the country ‘Islamic” at this point feels hypocritical.

When Islam was nascent many battles were being thrust upon believers. Despite being always outnumbered and outgunned they achieved victories. The underlying reason for this success was complete faith in Almighty and the consequential attitude of no hesitation and no excuses.

Let us hope that apart from other obvious reasons, the year 2020 will not be remembered for the biggest opportunity missed by Pakistan to resolve the Kashmir issue.


I don't have access to all sections hence I posted it here. MODS can move this to the appropriate section if they deem necessary.
 
They say nothing is more expensive than a missed opportunity. Pakistan might never have a better chance again to resolve/retake J&K than it has presently but the time is running out.

Up until now many concerns/excuses are presented by the powers that be for their lack of action. Some are listed below;

USA Intervention: With the USA we have a case of misplaced fear because a believer is supposed to fear only the Almighty but let’s call spade a spade; we do fear the USA a lot. For now, the USA is busy putting out fires on the Homefront.

Chinese Support: China has advanced on Ladakh. Indians are dumbfounded and don’t know what to do, yet.

Local Insurgency: There is resistance in J&K from within, albeit very small, but the fire is still burning and only needs more fuel.

Western Border: The release of Taliban captives by Kabul government indicates that enemy proxies are ready to yield, and the friendlies are a shoo-in for a power grab.

Considering all the above I cannot imagine what is Pakistan waiting for? If this is not the time, then when will it be. Provided that the status quo of the past 73 years holds its course, Pakistan will always remain outgunned and outnumbered against India as they have higher purchasing/manufacturing power and population therefore the plan of recovery cannot be put off forever, assuming there is a plan in the first place.

Surely Pakistan cannot be waiting for India to withdraw unconditionally by some miracle so that it can liberate J&K without firing a single shot because hoping for miracle requires faith in the One Almighty who dispense miracles which, honestly speaking, we do not have. The conception of Pakistan was based on the Idea of faith in the Almighty Creator. But we have a case of misplaced faith in weapons, numbers, economics, strategies, compromises etc. I would dare say that calling the country ‘Islamic” at this point feels hypocritical.

When Islam was nascent many battles were being thrust upon believers. Despite being always outnumbered and outgunned they achieved victories. The underlying reason for this success was complete faith in Almighty and the consequential attitude of no hesitation and no excuses.

Let us hope that apart from other obvious reasons, the year 2020 will not be remembered for the biggest opportunity missed by Pakistan to resolve the Kashmir issue.


I don't have access to all sections hence I posted it here. MODS can move this to the appropriate section if they deem necessary.

What are we waiting for ?

One word Answer dude : Loan ( after all Money, is needed for War )

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/pak-...ernal-public-debt.669262/page-6#post-12389521
 
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don't worry it is start of cold war.. We will get another day. US interfering China Sea and in Taiwan whereas China projecting power to stop India to be part of Pacific alliance against China. Australian speaking against China and rest of EU I guess. Overall I guess things will escalate globally.
 
They say nothing is more expensive than a missed opportunity. Pakistan might never have a better chance again to resolve/retake J&K than it has presently but the time is running out.

Up until now many concerns/excuses are presented by the powers that be for their lack of action. Some are listed below;

USA Intervention: With the USA we have a case of misplaced fear because a believer is supposed to fear only the Almighty but let’s call spade a spade; we do fear the USA a lot. For now, the USA is busy putting out fires on the Homefront.

Chinese Support: China has advanced on Ladakh. Indians are dumbfounded and don’t know what to do, yet.

Local Insurgency: There is resistance in J&K from within, albeit very small, but the fire is still burning and only needs more fuel.

Western Border: The release of Taliban captives by Kabul government indicates that enemy proxies are ready to yield, and the friendlies are a shoo-in for a power grab.

Considering all the above I cannot imagine what is Pakistan waiting for? If this is not the time, then when will it be. Provided that the status quo of the past 73 years holds its course, Pakistan will always remain outgunned and outnumbered against India as they have higher purchasing/manufacturing power and population therefore the plan of recovery cannot be put off forever, assuming there is a plan in the first place.

Surely Pakistan cannot be waiting for India to withdraw unconditionally by some miracle so that it can liberate J&K without firing a single shot because hoping for miracle requires faith in the One Almighty who dispense miracles which, honestly speaking, we do not have. The conception of Pakistan was based on the Idea of faith in the Almighty Creator. But we have a case of misplaced faith in weapons, numbers, economics, strategies, compromises etc. I would dare say that calling the country ‘Islamic” at this point feels hypocritical.

When Islam was nascent many battles were being thrust upon believers. Despite being always outnumbered and outgunned they achieved victories. The underlying reason for this success was complete faith in Almighty and the consequential attitude of no hesitation and no excuses.

Let us hope that apart from other obvious reasons, the year 2020 will not be remembered for the biggest opportunity missed by Pakistan to resolve the Kashmir issue.


I don't have access to all sections hence I posted it here. MODS can move this to the appropriate section if they deem necessary.

It can only be done if Kashmiri's want to be with Pakistan in vast majortiy which is not the case as of now. They want a separate state free from India and Pakistan
 
don't worry it is start of cold war.. We will get another day. US interfering China Sea and in Taiwan whereas China projecting power to stop India to be part of Pacific alliance against China. Australian speaking against China and rest of EU I guess. Overall I guess things will escalate globally.

I don't understand how exactly China's actions will stop India from joining any alliance against it. In fact, antagonizing India like this will push India further to join some Anti China alliance.
 
I don't understand how exactly China's actions will stop India from joining any alliance against it. In fact, antagonizing India like this will push India further to join some Anti China alliance.
Physical
Economical
Political (through Bhutan, Nepal, Pakistan)
Do you think US will come to save you?
They joined Afghan Mujaheddin in 81 (after 3 years), Didn't help us in 71. Didn't help you in Dokhlam.
you have to understand it is cold war. It requires constant investment with no actual war . At the end rither one back down or leave the game.
Listen Simon Sinek talk on game theory.
 
Physical
Economical
Political (through Bhutan, Nepal, Pakistan)
Do you think US will come to save you?
They joined Afghan Mujaheddin in 81 (after 3 years), Didn't help us in 71. Didn't help you in Dokhlam.
you have to understand it is cold war. It requires constant investment with no actual war . At the end rither one back down or leave the game.
Listen Simon Sinek talk on game theory.

Okay but how did Bhutan come in here ?
 
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Pakistan has never been known for strategic thinking. In 1948 Liaqat Ali Khan was saying Kashmir is coming in a platter, why get soldiers killed. In 1962 less said the better, traitor Ayub Khan busy in the pool with white girls. Kargil - lack of b@lls and ability to go through with plan.

This isn't the perfect time but there never is a perfect time. I personally think the best time would be next year if the Chinese are willing to do what they did just a tad better.

Pak and Chinese army are now apparently very closely coordinated - bit like NATO level integration. Would be very interesting if someone did have the b@lls to go through with this.
 
Pakistan has never been known for strategic thinking. In 1948 Liaqat Ali Khan was saying Kashmir is coming in a platter, why get soldiers killed. In 1962 less said the better, traitor Ayub Khan busy in the pool with white girls. Kargil - lack of b@lls and ability to go through with plan.

This isn't the perfect time but there never is a perfect time. I personally think the best time would be next year if the Chinese are willing to do what they did just a tad better.

Pak and Chinese army are now apparently very closely coordinated - bit like NATO level integration. Would be very interesting if someone did have the b@lls to go through with this.

We need Muslims running this country for that to happen.

Army has just been sitting and relaxing since '71 only come in action when defending. Its the fault of the higher up officials who have gotten used to this materialistic world life.

They are too afraid to die. If army higher ups had any fear of Allah, Kashmiris wouldnt have been in this position for over 9 months now and oppression of over many decades.
 
Physical
Economical
Political (through Bhutan, Nepal, Pakistan)
Do you think US will come to save you?
They joined Afghan Mujaheddin in 81 (after 3 years), Didn't help us in 71. Didn't help you in Dokhlam.
you have to understand it is cold war. It requires constant investment with no actual war . At the end rither one back down or leave the game.
Listen Simon Sinek talk on game theory.

US will not save India but China's actions are certainly pushing India towards US lead alliance.
 

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