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Why don’t we just stop printing money?

Why don’t we just stop printing money?
By Syed Hasan Shirazi
Short Answer: This can only be done if we reintroduce gold and silver as the standard for monetary system. However, this will cause US Dollar to lose its status as the world reserve currency, and hence is not favored by the USA and other Capitalist countries who are reaping the benefits of fiat currency, at the expense of rest of the World.

Long Answer: Currency was based on gold and silver, since recorded history up to WW1. Ancient Greek, Persia & Rome used the gold and silver currency. Since, Islamic currency is the Gold Dinar (4.25g of gold) and the Silver Dirham (2.975g of Silver)[1], hence, all the Islamic Caliphates (Rashidun, Umayyad, Abbasid, and Ottomans) used gold and silver based currencies. This means that currency was fully backed by gold or silver. Thus the exchange rate for each currency was fixed in terms of gold and silver. For example, Ottoman Lira was equivalent to 6.61519 grams of pure gold, while US Dollar was equivalent to 23.22 fine grains of gold. British Pound Sterling, which was the de-facto reserve currency prior to WW1, had a fixed exchange rate of £4.25 per fine ounce of gold. This exchange rate had remained fixed since 1717, when Isaac Newton, the Master of Mint, had standardized it.

Similarly, all currencies of the world had fixed exchange rate with gold and silver, and were in fact fully backed by gold and silver reserves. Thus a country would only issue the amount of currency for which it had equivalent reserves in gold and silver. This meant that no country could “print” money at will, as is the practice nowadays.

Gold standard was abandoned during WW1 because the warring nations (Russia, France, Austria & Germany) did not have enough gold to fund their war efforts, so they resorted to abandoning the gold standard to be able to print money to fund the war. Due to excessive printing of money there was massive inflation, and when the war ended it became impossible for these countries to go back to the gold standard. Britain also abandoned gold standard in 1931 because after WW1, it was not able to restore the supremacy of the Pound-Sterling as the unchallenged reserve currency. Now USA was in a position to dictate the financial policy of the world as US Dollar had emerged as the strongest currency of the World. Thus, many countries fixed their exchange rates in terms of US Dollar, while USD had an exchange rate of $35 per ounce of gold. However, in 1933 USA abandoned redemption of Dollars into gold (for individuals and firms) thereby abandoning gold as a currency, and making USD de-facto reserve currency of the world. However, Central Banks of other countries could still exchange their dollar reserves for gold.

In 1971, under pressure from Vietnam War, and continued French conversion of its dollar reserves to gold under Charles de Gaulle (1959–1969), which was undermining the Dollar, USA abandoned international convertibility of the US Dollar to gold. In 1976 USA officially changed the definition of dollar by removing all references to gold, thereby completely abandoning the gold standard.

After abandoning of gold and silver standard, all the countries can freely print money as much as they want, however, this is the cause of inflation, financial speculation and unstable exchange rates all over the world.

Since the mid 1970s, US has enjoyed monopoly over international monetary system due to its military, economic and political dominance over rest of the world. Hence, US Dollar is the global currency for purchase of oil (a fact notoriously termed as Petrodollars). Therefore, all the countries have to maintain USD reserves to buy oil from open market. This is the reason that USA has been able to maintain its hold over global monetary system, as it has only to print dollars to buy oil (and other items), while all other countries have to earn each and every dollar to pay for the oil they want to buy. So why would America want to revert back to gold and silver standard? One can see how much the USD has depreciated with respect to gold, in the following table:

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It is evident from the above table that prior to WW1 there was virtually ZERO inflation, however, after completely abandoning the gold standard in 1971, USD has lost its value many folds, which shows how wealth has been drained from rest of the world by USA. Every dollar earned by rest of the world and kept as reserve, loses its value with time due to inflation. This is the real face of neo-colonialism implemented by USA, which has replaced pre-WW2 direct colonialism of Britain and France.

All throughout the history, international gold and silver standard facilitated the flow of goods and capital among countries and promoted international price stability over the long run. However, during the last century US has exerted its dominance through the introduction of fiat currency, whereby other countries have to keep dollar reserves for international trade, while USD has no intrinsic value like gold and silver. The strength of gold and silver as primary currency of the world is evident from the fact that all major world powers still keep substantial amount of gold in their reserves:

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World can only be freed from the clutches of Capitalism and American hegemony, by reintroduction of gold and silver standards. This will end the USD dominance, and exchange rate will be stabilized based on the actual value of money, not its speculative value.

Based on problems faced due to fiat currencies, there have been calls for re-establishing the gold and silver standard. Dr. Mahathir Muhammad was a strong proponent of Islamic Dinar and Dirham to replace Dollar in international trade. However, for this to be implemented successfully, Islamic countries have to unite and follow the policy of self-sufficiency. As other countries like China and Russia are trying to free themselves from the clutches of “Petrodollars”, it is now the time for them to re-establish gold and silver standards as the basis of their currencies too.

Footnotes

[1] Syed Hasan Shirazi's answer to In the time of Mohammad (PBUH) and later, what was the currency policy?
 
Pakistani govt have easy way out after bad economy management and debt, and that is to print money to make poor more poorer with inflation. Najam sethi explained it well here even though he himself is beneficiary of same rotten system.

No one is willing to take on elite, not even Imran Khan. All judges and generals love their free plots. See DHA Karachi and whole Islamabad city. Where state forced people to sell their land for pennies and distribute plots among elite.

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Pakistan needs pain and humiliation of 5-6 years with structural reform - will need 2/3rd majority and full support behind the government (of both establishment and people)

and btw Pak cant afford 6+ growth plain and simple cause
we are structurally built wrong (or our economic base), don't celebrate 5.5-6% growth, high growth is killer rn
 
Pakistan needs pain and humiliation of 5-6 years with structural reform - will need 2/3rd majority and full support behind the government (of both establishment and people)

and btw Pak cant afford 6+ growth plain and simple cause
we are structurally built wrong (or our economic base), don't celebrate 5.5-6% growth, high growth is killer rn
The point is to get rid of the bloody establishment :)
 
solution is easy buy a guns arm up go shoot the establishment, dont worry bout military their families are abroad target them, if they target you. if go in very large communities theres no stopping.

mods - i am talking bout usa style 2nd amendment to own guns to use against tyrannical governments.

sorry but military fcuked up including corrupt government.
 
LOL, @R2D2, you cannot be freed of Capitalism by just replacing paper money with gold money - Islamic or otherwise, you will have to evolve the entire socio-economic system either through :

A socio-economic system that mixes a progressive Socialist socio-economic system with an evolved money system that will result in a system where the basic human necessities are free for all citizens, the traditional Capitalist socio-economic classes ( rich, middle, poor ) have been abolished and all the non-basic goods and services in the society are potentially equally available to everyone. We don't need to have physical money here at all, we are after all in the digital and telecom age. Such an socio-economic I have proposed in this thread.

Or

Go full on and arrange the political and socio-economic system such that money itself is abolished which is one of the desires of Communism. I haven't yet put mind to fully expanding on this ( the practical realization ) but I will quote the relevant theoretical section from part 2 of Muammar Gaddafi's Green Book :
The final step is for the new socialist society to reach a stage in which profit and money disappear. Society will become fully productive; the material needs of society will be met. In this final stage, profit will disappear, as will the need for money.

The recognition of profit is an acknowledgment of exploitation, for profit has no limit. Attempts so far to limit profit by various means have been reformative, not radical, intending to prohibit exploitation of man by man. The final solution lies in eradicating profit, but because profit is the dynamic force behind the economic process, eliminating profit is not a matter of decree but, rather, an outcome of the evolving socialist process. This solution can be attained when the material satisfaction of the needs of society and its members is achieved. Work to increase profit will itself lead to its final eradication.

@Atlas
 
LOL, @R2D2, you cannot be freed of Capitalism by just replacing paper money with gold money - Islamic or otherwise, you will have to evolve the entire socio-economic system either through :

A socio-economic system that mixes a progressive Socialist socio-economic system with an evolved money system that will result in a system where the basic human necessities are free for all citizens, the traditional Capitalist socio-economic classes ( rich, middle, poor ) have been abolished and all the non-basic goods and services in the society are potentially equally available to everyone. We don't need to have physical money here at all, we are after all in the digital and telecom age. Such an socio-economic I have proposed in this thread.

Or

Go full on and arrange the political and socio-economic system such that money itself is abolished which is one of the desires of Communism. I haven't yet put mind to fully expanding on this ( the practical realization ) but I will quote the relevant theoretical section from part 2 of Muammar Gaddafi's Green Book :


@Atlas
Ihttps://iai.tv/articles/why-they-killed-gaddafi-auid-1757
 
LOL, @R2D2, you cannot be freed of Capitalism by just replacing paper money with gold money - Islamic or otherwise, you will have to evolve the entire socio-economic system either through :

A socio-economic system that mixes a progressive Socialist socio-economic system with an evolved money system that will result in a system where the basic human necessities are free for all citizens, the traditional Capitalist socio-economic classes ( rich, middle, poor ) have been abolished and all the non-basic goods and services in the society are potentially equally available to everyone. We don't need to have physical money here at all, we are after all in the digital and telecom age. Such an socio-economic I have proposed in this thread.

Or

Go full on and arrange the political and socio-economic system such that money itself is abolished which is one of the desires of Communism. I haven't yet put mind to fully expanding on this ( the practical realization ) but I will quote the relevant theoretical section from part 2 of Muammar Gaddafi's Green Book :


@Atlas
I liked your idea . But tbh , I'm not good at economics and don't understand it well. ( You know I'm fond of regional and international political stuffs ) . So I will only read but won't write my opinion on economics! Thanks for tagging me.

@jamahir
 
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You need to print money because your middle and upper class wants to consume all fancy capitalist goods and technology that Western countries produce to enjoy their comfortable lifestyle. You do not possess the capability to innovate or produce the goods you would like to consume. You are not blessed with natural resources to finance your consumption habits. Want to get rid of money printing? Innovate and produce more or stop expecting to live with comforts of modern life.

PS: This applies to all developing countries that struggle to make ends meet :D
 
Ihttps://iai.tv/articles/why-they-killed-gaddafi-auid-1757

Loved the article. Nicely provided the economic argumentfor that massive invasion. Many thanks for sharing. :tup: But there were additional reasons too for the Libya regime change.

The Libyan Jamahiriya was a progressive, Socialist-Communist Muslim-majority society and that was hated by the NATO Western Crusader governments in addition to NATO's general hate of leftist thought. A mullah right-wing government in Libya would bring another Muslim-majority society into the Capitalist bloc.

And then Muammar Gaddafi was a leftist internationalist supporting revolutionary and independence individuals and groups all over the world - from Nelson Mandela's ANC right in Africa to IRA previously in Britain to FARC in Columbia to the revolutionary Carlos the Jackal to the German Red Army to the Japanese Red Army and so on. This American NATO-aligned source speaks of an old conference in Libya :

Al Mathaba
Anti-Imperialism Center (AIC)​

Al Mathaba (meaning center) is the Libyan center for anti-imperialist propaganda which has funded third world guerilla groups. The Anti-Imperialism Center (AIC) - also known as Mathaba - is used by the Libyan Government to support terrorist networks and thus plays an important role in Qadhafi's terrorism strategy. Established in 1982 to support "liberation and revolutionary groups", the AIC has sponsored a number of stridently anti-Western conferences in Tripoli. At the same time, the AIC's mission is to identify and recruit revolutionaries for ideological and military training in Libya. During their training at AIC camps, individuals are selected for advanced training, including in weapons and explosives, and indoctrination. With representatives in many Libyan embassies worldwide, the AIC runs its own independent clandestine operations and disburses payments to terrorist, insurgent, and subversive groups.

As of 1992 the AIC was headed by Musa Kusa, a Qadhafi confidant who was also Libya's Deputy Foreign Minister. As of late 1995 Musa Kusa was the head of the Libyan External Security Organization (ESO), and was also the head of Al Mathaba.

Al Mathaba is more a concept than an organisation. Its origins are Libyan and its objective anti-imperialist. Libya's international activity is considerable. Some see it everywhere, behind every armed, or even radical, group. It was in 1982 that Libya took the initiative of organising an international organisation essentially based on the third world: Al Mathaba.

By calling the 3rd Al Mathaba Congress in August 2000, to mark the 30th anniversary of its revolution, with the participation of many representatives, particularly from Africa and Latin America, Libya no doubt hoped to affirm for itself an active international role, far beyond its small size. Judging by the level of participation, its plan was particularly well received, reflecting the high degree of sympathy Libya enjoys in the anti-imperialist world - the result of the continuity of its efforts over a period of time. Once an organization that backed morally, financially and physically the liberation movements seeking to overthrow oppressive regimes-ofttimes through armed struggle-Col. Gadhafi said that "after restructuring, (Mathaba) must confront the concept of globalization."

Many heads of state were present: Sam Nujoma (Namibia), Robert Mugabe (Zimbabwe), Yoweri Kaguta Musaveni (Uganda), Blaise Campraore (Burkina Faso), Alpha Oumar Konare (Mali), Yahya Jammeh (Gambia), Idris Deby (Chad), Abdou Diouf (Senegal), and the President of Guinea Bissao. Progressive political forces, communists and revolutionaries were there as well: the Cuban CP, Shaffik Handal (FMLN, San Salvador), the Guatamalan URNG, Tomas Borge and Daniel Ortega of the FSLN (Nicaragua), Raul Reyes (FARC, Columbia), a personal representative of Hugo Chavez (Venezuela), Lula, of the Brazilian Labour Party, Gladys Marin, General Secretary of the Chilian CP, Marina Arismendi, General Secretary of the Uruguayan CP. From Europe there was a very varied Italian delegation, with the Refoundation Communist Party in particular, and a Spanish delegation from the United Left (José Cabo) and from OSPAAAL.
The Libyan revolutionary ideas were being discussed in many places in the world and in fact the Libyan Jamahiriya political system of decentralized direct democracy is being implemented in Venezeula initiated by Hugo Chavez who was a comrade of Muammar Gaddafi :
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So NATO did not want more progressive individuals and groups to look at the Libyan model of true democracy and comfortable welfare-based society and wanted to keep societies trapped in Capitalist dog-eat-dog envrionment where only the few rich lived in luxury and those rich included the massive military-industrial complexes of USA, Israel and the rest of the Western bloc, and thus NATO looked at the regional and wider economic impact of Libya and the Libyan politial impact NATO decided to invade with 30+ government militaries plus thousands of Al Qaeda and "Muslim" Brotherhood proxies.

Lastly, in 2011 I watched and read of so many crimes by NATO, AQ and "M"B in Libya and one was the gangrape of an Italian female journalist. She had made herself embedded in the "Libyan" "rebels" to make propaganda for NATO but one day the last vid of hers from Libya showed her lying naked on a beach forced there by AQ and "M"B fighters and they were simply swarming around her, ejaculating openly on her and penetrating her by turns and being violent all over her. That was the first time I watched a gangrape and I wondered how can a male be so filthy and consumed in lust that he forgets he is in a group of other open males being the same and getting each others' fluid on each other. Yuck ! Also to mention they not thinking of the violence they are committing on the female. This group was behaving like dogs and monkeys. The Italian journalist certainly learnt that day that she supported the wrong party.
 
Loved the article. Nicely provided the economic argumentfor that massive invasion. Many thanks for sharing. :tup: But there were additional reasons too for the Libya regime change.

The Libyan Jamahiriya was a progressive, Socialist-Communist Muslim-majority society and that was hated by the NATO Western Crusader governments in addition to NATO's general hate of leftist thought. A mullah right-wing government in Libya would bring another Muslim-majority society into the Capitalist bloc.

And then Muammar Gaddafi was a leftist internationalist supporting revolutionary and independence individuals and groups all over the world - from Nelson Mandela's ANC right in Africa to IRA previously in Britain to FARC in Columbia to the revolutionary Carlos the Jackal to the German Red Army to the Japanese Red Army and so on. This American NATO-aligned source speaks of an old conference in Libya :

The Libyan revolutionary ideas were being discussed in many places in the world and in fact the Libyan Jamahiriya political system of decentralized direct democracy is being implemented in Venezeula initiated by Hugo Chavez who was a comrade of Muammar Gaddafi :
hugo_chavez_gaddafi_nationalturk-0789-489x360.jpg

So NATO did not want more progressive individuals and groups to look at the Libyan model of true democracy and comfortable welfare-based society and wanted to keep societies trapped in Capitalist dog-eat-dog envrionment where only the few rich lived in luxury and those rich included the massive military-industrial complexes of USA, Israel and the rest of the Western bloc, and thus NATO looked at the regional and wider economic impact of Libya and the Libyan politial impact NATO decided to invade with 30+ government militaries plus thousands of Al Qaeda and "Muslim" Brotherhood proxies.

Lastly, in 2011 I watched and read of so many crimes by NATO, AQ and "M"B in Libya and one was the gangrape of an Italian female journalist. She had made herself embedded in the "Libyan" "rebels" to make propaganda for NATO but one day the last vid of hers from Libya showed her lying naked on a beach forced there by AQ and "M"B fighters and they were simply swarming around her, ejaculating openly on her and penetrating her by turns and being violent all over her. That was the first time I watched a gangrape and I wondered how can a male be so filthy and consumed in lust that he forgets he is in a group of other open males being the same and getting each others' fluid on each other. Yuck ! Also to mention they not thinking of the violence they are committing on the female. This group was behaving like dogs and monkeys. The Italian journalist certainly learnt that day that she supported the wrong party.
There is a need for the unity of socialist and islamist forces.
 
There is a need for the unity of socialist and islamist forces.

Absolutely, for Islam mostly was really what can be now described as a revolution for political, social and socio-economic justice, progressiveness and rationality. I quote a section from my thread from 2016 whose OP is an article by Pakistani journalist Nadeem Paracha and is about modern Communist and Socialist activism among Muslims since the early 1900s :
During the same period (1920s-30s), another (though lesser known) Islamic scholar in undivided India got smitten by the 1917 Russian revolution and Marxism.

Hafiz Rahman Sihwarwl saw Islam and Marxism sharing five elements in common: (1) prohibition of the accumulation of wealth in the hands of the privileged classes (2) organisation of the economic structure of the state to ensure social welfare (3) equality of opportunity for all human beings (4) priority of collective social interest over individual privilege and (5) prevention of the permanentising of class structure through social revolution.

The motivations for many of these themes he drew from the Qur’an, which he understood as seeking to create an economic order in which the rich pay excessive, though voluntary taxes (Zakat) to minimise differences in living standards.

In the areas that Sihwarwl saw Islam and communism diverge were Islam’s sanction of private ownership within certain limits, and in its refusal to recognise an absolutely classless basis of society.

He suggested that Islam, with its prohibition of the accumulation of wealth, is able to control the class structure through equality of opportunity.

Basically, both Sindhi and Sihwarwl had stumbled upon an Islamic concept of the social democratic welfare state.

Building upon the initial thoughts of Sindhi and Sihwarwl were perhaps South Asia’s two most ardent and articulate supporters and theoreticians of Islamic Socilaism: Ghulam Ahmed Parvez and Dr. Khalifa Abdul Hakim.

Parvez was a prominent ‘Quranist’, or an Islamic scholar who insisted that for the Muslims to make progress in the modern world, Islamic thought and laws should be entirely based on the modern interpretations of the Qu’ran and on the complete rejection of the hadith (sayings of the Prophet and his companions based on hearsay and compiled over a 100 years after the Prophet’s demise).

After studying traditional Muslim texts, as well as Sufism, Parvez claimed that almost all hadiths were fabrications by those who wanted Islam to seem like an intolerant faith and by ancient Muslim kings who used these hadiths to give divine legitimacy to their tyrannical rules.

Parvez also insisted that Muslims should spend more time studying the modern sciences instead of wasting their energies on fighting out ancient sectarian conflicts or ignoring the true egalitarian and enlightening spirit of the Qu’ran by indulging in multiple rituals handed down to them by ancient ulema, clerics and compilers of the hadith.

Understandably, Parvez was right away attacked by conservative Islamic scholars and political outfits.

But this didn’t stop famous Muslim philosopher and poet, Muhammad Iqbal, to befriend the young scholar and then introduce him to the future founder of Pakistan, Muhammad Ali Jinnah.

Jinnah appointed Parvez to edit a magazine, Talu-e-Islam. It was set-up to propagate the creation of a separate Muslim country and to also answer the attacks that Jinnah’s All India Muslim League had begun to face from conservative Islamic parties and ulema who accused the League of being a pseudo-Muslim organisation and Jinnah for being too westernised and ‘lacking correct Islamic behavior.’

Apart from continuing to author books and commentaries on the Qu’ran, Parvez wrote a series of articles in Talu-e-Islam that propagated a more socialistic view of the holy book.

In a series of essays for the magazine he used verses from the Qu’ran, incidents from the faith’s history and insights from the writings of Muhammad Iqbal to claim:

The clergy and conservative ulema have hijacked Islam.

They are agents of the rich people and promoters of uncontrolled Capitalism.

Socialism best enforces Qur’anic dictums on property, justice and distribution of wealth.

Islam’s main mission was the eradication of all injustices and cruelties from society. It was a socio-economic movement, and the Prophet was a leader seeking to put an end to the capitalist exploitation of the Quraysh merchants and the corrupt bureaucracy of Byzantium and Persia.

According to the Qur’an, Muslims have three main responsibilities: seeing, hearing and sensing through the agency of the mind. Consequently, real knowledge is based on empirically verifiable observation, or through the role of science.

Poverty is the punishment of God and deserved by those who ignore science.

In Muslim/Islamic societies, science, as well as agrarian reform should play leading roles in developing an industrialised economy.

A socialist path is a correction of the medieval distortion of Islam through Shari’a.


Parvez joined the government after the creation of Pakistan in 1947, but after Jinnah’s death in 1948, he was sidelined until he resigned from his post in 1956.
The alliance of rational, sensitive, empathetic and intellectual Muslims and modern Communism and Socialism is natural and that is why there have been quite a few Muslim movements and countries and Nadeem Paracha's article lists those. So as you say, those who consider themselves Islamist must see this naturalness in alliance and unity for the struggle after all is in establishing an anti-Capitalist and just welfare-based society locally and work in such alliances globally to make the system to be One World One Governance.
 
Absolutely, for Islam mostly was really what can be now described as a revolution for political, social and socio-economic justice, progressiveness and rationality. I quote a section from my thread from 2016 whose OP is an article by Pakistani journalist Nadeem Paracha and is about modern Communist and Socialist activism among Muslims since the early 1900s :

The alliance of rational, sensitive, empathetic and intellectual Muslims and modern Communism and Socialism is natural and that is why there have been quite a few Muslim movements and countries and Nadeem Paracha's article lists those. So as you say, those who consider themselves Islamist must see this naturalness in alliance and unity for the struggle after all is in establishing an anti-Capitalist and just welfare-based society locally and work in such alliances globally to make the system to be One World One Governance.
I am ready for uniting with socialists. I am starting a political party Green Peoples Movement in Pakistan. Its principles are Islam, Socialism and Environmental/Agricultural Activism.
 
LOL.
World is moving to cryptocurrency which makes current fiat money look like solid gold.

I am ready for uniting with socialists. I am starting a political party Green Peoples Movement in Pakistan. Its principles are Islam, Socialism and Environmental/Agricultural Activism.

On the plus side, you can rent a one-bedroom apartment for your All-Pakistan party conventions.
 

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