Chabahar not a rival to Gwadar, Iranian envoy tells Pakistan

[Max]

and sir with all deu respect what is the diffrence between eastern China manufacturing hubs population centers and Kashgahr ?

CPEC is between western China and Pakistan, eastern China trade will flow through malacca strait and its own ports...

 

[Rank]

Dear Ambassador .. asl kahani kuch aur hey...

 

[Laozi]

dear kid do you know what is China Iran rail link and its route, Iran is not direct neighbor of China like Pakistan?

Don't kid yourself

Look at the broader picture Form Chinese point of view.

They already have an existing Rail Link with Iran. They are getting a proposal from a friendly Country like Iran to get connected to Arabian Ocean.

PLUS they are getting a chance to undermine Indian dominance in the region, then KID, Would you please explain it to me, WHY Chinese shouldn't grab this offer with both hands. ( or you think that Chinese won't do it just because it spoils your politicians chances to loot CPEC funds )

 

[GURU DUTT]

CPEC is between western China and Pakistan, eastern China trade will flow through malacca strait and its own ports...

This is Chinas main priority and work is in full swing for it

Now calculate the distance to be coverred from Kashgar to Xian 3800 Km approx

 

[Stephen Cohen]

This is Chinas main priority and work is in full swing for it

Now calculate the distance to be coverred from Kashgar to Xian 3800 Km approx

China has already bought a HUGE ready made and Operational port in GREECE
Pireaus Port --which will be their main Hub for Europe

http://thediplomat.com/2016/04/chinas-mediterranean-odyssey/

http://www.hellenicshippingnews.com/local-community-embraces-chinas-investments-at-piraeus-port/

 

[Max]

This is Chinas main priority and work is in full swing for it

Now calculate the distance to be coverred from Kashgar to Xian 3800 Km approx

still it will be less then 10,300 Km from Iran..

2500km ruote in Pakistan, Kashgar to xian 3800km according to you.. which mean its total is 6300km.. nearly 40% less then Iran rail link..

They already have an existing Rail Link with Iran. They are getting a proposal from a friendly Country like Iran to get connected to Arabian Ocean.

They rail link distance is more then 10,300km (presented link earlier).. also Pakistan has exiting rail network in most of the country and we are working on 680km rail link from China.. the distance from western China till gawadar will always be under 2500km whether you go from road or rail... now tell me which is more feasible?

 

[Laozi]

This is Chinas main priority and work is in full swing for it

Now calculate the distance to be coverred from Kashgar to Xian 3800 Km approx

So as per the map it won't make any difference to Chinese whether its Gwadar or Chabahar

But It will make a huge difference to Pakistan economy and foreign relations

 

[Max]

PLUS they are getting a chance to undermine Indian dominance in the region,

its wet dream of bharti kids that Iran will allow them to use their land for dominence against China and Pakistan which have nothing to do with reality

Would you please explain it to me, WHY Chinese shouldn't grab this offer with both hands.

Bcoz Pakistan provide shortest route for Chinese ME, Africa bound trade, we are very good friends from 65 yeras, we have same interests in region.. otherwise chinese would not come and sign 46 billion contracts.. and they are working on them as well with full speed and adding more investment..

 

[GURU DUTT]

still it will be less then 10,300 Km from Iran..

2500km ruote in Pakistan, Kashgar to xian 3800km according to you.. which mean its total is 6300km.. nearly 40% less then Iran rail link..

But that also means 6300km+ tranporting-loading-unloading charges from from XYZ ports say from africa to GCC states add that cost too but here (new silk roate economic zone) there will be two Gas-Oil pipelines + train /fraight lines say from directly Xian in eastern china to say norther iran and from there to central asia and europe and russia which dont have to be loaded and unloaded like they have to be in CEPC like Goods -oil or gas will first be brought in ships to Gawadar and then unloaded to train or trucks Kashghar(2500Km) and from there to Xian(3800Km) .... think about it which will take more time

 

[Laozi]

They rail link distance is more then 10,300km (presented link earlier).. also Pakistan has exiting rail network in most of the country and we are working on 680km rail link from China.. the distance from western China till gawadar will always be under 2500km whether you go from road or rail... now tell me which is more feasible?

Do you have any Maps to back your claims.

Or they are Secrets routes and can not be made Public.

China will decide what is more economical and feasible. It will definitely take many other things into considerations.

 

[Max]

Do you have any Maps to back your claims.

Or they are Secrets routes and can not be made Public.

China will decide what is more economical and feasible. It will definitely take many other things into considerations.

HERE ::::::::::::::

First train from China to Iran stimulates Silk Road revival
Source: Xinhua 2016-02-16 01:36:05



TEHRAN, Feb. 15 (Xinhua) -- First cargo train from China to Iran arrived in Tehran on Monday, indicating a milestone in reviving the "Silk Road," which has opened a new chapter of win-win cooperation between China and Iran.

The train, also referred to as Silk Road train, has passed through Kazakhstan and Turkmenistan to Iran, travelling a distance of 10,399 kilometers. It had left Yiwu city in east China's Zhejiang Province on January 28.


http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2016-02/16/c_135100997.htm

Xinhua is official state media of China..

Source: https://defence.pk/threads/chabahar...an-envoy-tells-pakistan.432400/#ixzz49uPIl9bV

 

[Laozi]

HERE ::::::::::::::

First train from China to Iran stimulates Silk Road revival
Source: Xinhua 2016-02-16 01:36:05



TEHRAN, Feb. 15 (Xinhua) -- First cargo train from China to Iran arrived in Tehran on Monday, indicating a milestone in reviving the "Silk Road," which has opened a new chapter of win-win cooperation between China and Iran.

The train, also referred to as Silk Road train, has passed through Kazakhstan and Turkmenistan to Iran, travelling a distance of 10,399 kilometers. It had left Yiwu city in east China's Zhejiang Province on January 28.


http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2016-02/16/c_135100997.htm


Source: https://defence.pk/threads/chabahar...an-envoy-tells-pakistan.432400/#ixzz49uPIl9bV

Respected Sir,

You are posting what we already know, this infrastructure is already developed by them and is available to Chinese .

Please post the Proposed map of Pakistan Chinese Rail Link and how it is connected to Chinese proposed Silk Route

Thanks and regards

 

[Max]

But that also means 6300km+ tranporting-loading-unloading charges from from XYZ ports say from africa to GCC states add that cost too but here

The same will happen to 10,300 Km Iranian links as well..

here will be two Gas-Oil pipelines

any gas pipeline without Pakistan between Iran and China will have to pass two three countries and they will have to lay big pipeline, thats why China plane this...

http://www.wsj.com/articles/china-to-build-pipeline-from-iran-to-pakistan-1428515277

China to Build Pipeline From Iran to Pakistan

 

[GURU DUTT]

The same will happen to 10,300 Km Iranian links as well..



any gas pipeline without Pakistan between Iran and China will have to pass two three countries and they will have to lay big pipeline, thats why China plane this...

http://www.wsj.com/articles/china-to-build-pipeline-from-iran-to-pakistan-1428515277

China to Build Pipeline From Iran to Pakistan

check again China is already laying a diffrent pipe line from oil fields of central asia and iran to China

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_Asia–China_gas_pipeline

 

[Indus Pakistan]

Chabahar is not a rival to Gwadar

That is true. However it is intended to give India access to Afghanistan and thereby is contrary to Pak interests.

Trade and business is business, and politics is politics.

Really? Why does Iran not do soome trading and business with Israel? Leave the politics asides.

trade relations with its neighbours and regional powers, including Turkey, China and Russia.

Israel?