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Phoenix ASMPA Renovated, ASN4G, SAF tomorrow
ASMP-A missile from a Rafale B Strategic Air Forces © Cosmao
With the arrival of ASMPA in 2009 (on Mirage 2000N) and Rafale F3 in 2010, the Strategic Air Forces (SAF) have already received a major upgrade in recent years. This effort will continue as a re Afirme yesterday the Minister of Defence Mr. Jean-Yves Le Drian .
This has once again announced the next order of A330MRTT "the contract MRTT has successfully passed the final stages of its administrative instruction, and therefore has the necessary arrangements for the notification (...) The contract is going to start,. and the first of twelve aircraft scheduled to be delivered in 2018, according to the LPM. "
The device is highly anticipated, the fleet of KC-135 tankers being out of breath, most devices have been approved in 1964. The aircraft will be named "Phoenix" in the Air Force.
The modernization of FAS will also involve upgrading the ASMPA MBDA. The stage of development of the ASMPA the renovation program was launched this summer. This is not new, but the confirmation of an expected program.
The DGA and the French Air Force also study solutions for the replacement of the missile through the ASN4G program. According to the minister of defense, this system will be "bold" design and several technologies including stealth and hyper-velocity are studied.
L'ASN4G sera le futur missile des forces aériennes stratégiques - Zone Militaire
The ASN4G missile will be the future of the strategic air forces
Given the changing international environment, nuclear deterrence is "more relevant than ever" to Jean-Yves Le Drian, the Minister of Defense. He added that those who "hear" the "fundamentally delegitimize nuclear deterrence is the wrong fight."
"We must prevent the generous use a world" without nuclear weapons' prepares a world where only the dictators disposal in "argued the minister, at a conference held on November 20 at the military school, on the occasion of the 50th anniversary of the Strategic Air Forces (SAF). "France is at the forefront of a determined policy of arms control and the fight against proliferation, in the context of international law. It is on this ground that it intends to make real progress to prevent new arms races will engage, "he added.
However, and for the French strategic forces remain credible, it is necessary to modernize.And, while some voices are calling for the suppresion of the airborne component of deterrence to find savings (which remains to be seen ...), Mr Le Drian has vigorously defended by repeating arguments which have already been developed in these columns.
It "provides the political authority a wide range of strategic and military options, with a range of modes of action that gives real flexibility to the entire device. In particular, it contributes greatly upon decision of the President of the Republic, with the exercise of targeted strategic effects, or a final warning strikes', the minister said.
"It also represents, he continued, an ability 'visible', which opens in case of necessity, space for a political and diplomatic maneuver, (...) for the potential adversary generates an additional constraint for its defenses Thanks to the diversity of modes of penetration of our weapons, ballistic or aerobic, aircraft or submarines "and" by the redundancy that results, it puts our nuclear forces from an unexpected breakthrough in this or Such a field. " Finally, "it is moderate, with regard to sovereignty issues," with "about 5% of the budget of deterrence in the next ten years," he added.
As announced by Mr Le Drian, the future of FAS go through the renewal of aircraft C-135FR tanker with 12 A-330 Phoenix. Incidentally, these devices are not only meant to carry out flights related to nuclear deterrence. If it is indispensable, it remains indeed not unless they are also involved in conventional missions. But that's not all.
Last spring, General Denis Mercier, Chief of Staff of the Air Force (CEMAA) had indicated during a hearing on nuclear deterrence, the National Assembly, that work to develop a successor to the missile ASMP-A (Medium Range Air-Sol - Enhanced) was underway. In his speech, the Minister said a little more.
He "was launched last summer dirant the stage of development of the ASMP-A missile renovated. This will provide the component (Airborne) an aerobic missile capable of penetrating all future defenses until 2035, "he began by saying on this subject. "Finally, studies of the successor of ASMPA, called ASN4G have already started," confirmed Mr Le Drian. The question is what does the acronym ASN4G ...
"Bold designs, using for example, the stealth technology or hyper-velocity, at the forefront of developments in technology will be explored," said Minister again, who said "these projects are doubly necessary because that deterrence is meaningful only if it can permanently overcome the prohibition strategies that our opponents might want to implement "and because, on an industrial scale" deterrence has a ripple effect on the all our industrial and technological capabilities. "
"The choice of the future weapons system, consisting of ASN4G missile and an even carrier to define, represents a major challenge for the Armed Forces. I have every confidence in General Denis Mercier and the Delegate General for Armaments Laurent Collet Billon, to guide and inform this record, which is closely related to the future Air Force Size "further explained M . Le Drian.
However, General Mercier has already given its opinion on the technology of choice."Mastering the hypervelocity appears already as a central factor. I note in this connection that the United States, Russia, China, India - countries where the issue of modernizing their airborne nuclear component does not even arise - experimental programs of hyper swift vehicles are driven . I imagine with difficulty that France, which has an established lead in ramjet remains in line with these developments, "he explained in April.
Thus, the ASN4G program should lead to a true technological breakthrough in 2035, to the extent that there is a lot of research to be conducted on the resistance of materials and populseurs. No doubt these will interest manufacturers to potential civil applications in air transport, for example.
Moreover, again by 2035, the 4 submarines nuclear ballistic missile (SSBN) of "The Triumphant" class gradually begin to be replaced by the 3rd generation of SSBNs.Meanwhile, Mr Le Drian confirmed that the ballistic missile M51.2, with dla new oceanic nuclear warhead (TNO) will be deployed from 2016 (on The Triumphant), and the work on the M51.3 were incurred since July.
L'ASN4G sera le futur missile des forces aériennes stratégiques - Zone Militaire
ASMP-A missile from a Rafale B Strategic Air Forces © Cosmao
With the arrival of ASMPA in 2009 (on Mirage 2000N) and Rafale F3 in 2010, the Strategic Air Forces (SAF) have already received a major upgrade in recent years. This effort will continue as a re Afirme yesterday the Minister of Defence Mr. Jean-Yves Le Drian .
This has once again announced the next order of A330MRTT "the contract MRTT has successfully passed the final stages of its administrative instruction, and therefore has the necessary arrangements for the notification (...) The contract is going to start,. and the first of twelve aircraft scheduled to be delivered in 2018, according to the LPM. "
The device is highly anticipated, the fleet of KC-135 tankers being out of breath, most devices have been approved in 1964. The aircraft will be named "Phoenix" in the Air Force.
The modernization of FAS will also involve upgrading the ASMPA MBDA. The stage of development of the ASMPA the renovation program was launched this summer. This is not new, but the confirmation of an expected program.
The DGA and the French Air Force also study solutions for the replacement of the missile through the ASN4G program. According to the minister of defense, this system will be "bold" design and several technologies including stealth and hyper-velocity are studied.
L'ASN4G sera le futur missile des forces aériennes stratégiques - Zone Militaire
The ASN4G missile will be the future of the strategic air forces
Given the changing international environment, nuclear deterrence is "more relevant than ever" to Jean-Yves Le Drian, the Minister of Defense. He added that those who "hear" the "fundamentally delegitimize nuclear deterrence is the wrong fight."
"We must prevent the generous use a world" without nuclear weapons' prepares a world where only the dictators disposal in "argued the minister, at a conference held on November 20 at the military school, on the occasion of the 50th anniversary of the Strategic Air Forces (SAF). "France is at the forefront of a determined policy of arms control and the fight against proliferation, in the context of international law. It is on this ground that it intends to make real progress to prevent new arms races will engage, "he added.
However, and for the French strategic forces remain credible, it is necessary to modernize.And, while some voices are calling for the suppresion of the airborne component of deterrence to find savings (which remains to be seen ...), Mr Le Drian has vigorously defended by repeating arguments which have already been developed in these columns.
It "provides the political authority a wide range of strategic and military options, with a range of modes of action that gives real flexibility to the entire device. In particular, it contributes greatly upon decision of the President of the Republic, with the exercise of targeted strategic effects, or a final warning strikes', the minister said.
"It also represents, he continued, an ability 'visible', which opens in case of necessity, space for a political and diplomatic maneuver, (...) for the potential adversary generates an additional constraint for its defenses Thanks to the diversity of modes of penetration of our weapons, ballistic or aerobic, aircraft or submarines "and" by the redundancy that results, it puts our nuclear forces from an unexpected breakthrough in this or Such a field. " Finally, "it is moderate, with regard to sovereignty issues," with "about 5% of the budget of deterrence in the next ten years," he added.
As announced by Mr Le Drian, the future of FAS go through the renewal of aircraft C-135FR tanker with 12 A-330 Phoenix. Incidentally, these devices are not only meant to carry out flights related to nuclear deterrence. If it is indispensable, it remains indeed not unless they are also involved in conventional missions. But that's not all.
Last spring, General Denis Mercier, Chief of Staff of the Air Force (CEMAA) had indicated during a hearing on nuclear deterrence, the National Assembly, that work to develop a successor to the missile ASMP-A (Medium Range Air-Sol - Enhanced) was underway. In his speech, the Minister said a little more.
He "was launched last summer dirant the stage of development of the ASMP-A missile renovated. This will provide the component (Airborne) an aerobic missile capable of penetrating all future defenses until 2035, "he began by saying on this subject. "Finally, studies of the successor of ASMPA, called ASN4G have already started," confirmed Mr Le Drian. The question is what does the acronym ASN4G ...
"Bold designs, using for example, the stealth technology or hyper-velocity, at the forefront of developments in technology will be explored," said Minister again, who said "these projects are doubly necessary because that deterrence is meaningful only if it can permanently overcome the prohibition strategies that our opponents might want to implement "and because, on an industrial scale" deterrence has a ripple effect on the all our industrial and technological capabilities. "
"The choice of the future weapons system, consisting of ASN4G missile and an even carrier to define, represents a major challenge for the Armed Forces. I have every confidence in General Denis Mercier and the Delegate General for Armaments Laurent Collet Billon, to guide and inform this record, which is closely related to the future Air Force Size "further explained M . Le Drian.
However, General Mercier has already given its opinion on the technology of choice."Mastering the hypervelocity appears already as a central factor. I note in this connection that the United States, Russia, China, India - countries where the issue of modernizing their airborne nuclear component does not even arise - experimental programs of hyper swift vehicles are driven . I imagine with difficulty that France, which has an established lead in ramjet remains in line with these developments, "he explained in April.
Thus, the ASN4G program should lead to a true technological breakthrough in 2035, to the extent that there is a lot of research to be conducted on the resistance of materials and populseurs. No doubt these will interest manufacturers to potential civil applications in air transport, for example.
Moreover, again by 2035, the 4 submarines nuclear ballistic missile (SSBN) of "The Triumphant" class gradually begin to be replaced by the 3rd generation of SSBNs.Meanwhile, Mr Le Drian confirmed that the ballistic missile M51.2, with dla new oceanic nuclear warhead (TNO) will be deployed from 2016 (on The Triumphant), and the work on the M51.3 were incurred since July.
L'ASN4G sera le futur missile des forces aériennes stratégiques - Zone Militaire
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OK!!
latest issue of FOX 3 issue NOV 2014 is out now
enjoy!!
http://www.defense-aerospace.com/dae/sponsors/sponsor_rafale/img/fox3_18.pdf
too lazy to post snipped pics man!!
why i am so awesome on providing latest info on rafale in various forums i just cant understand
CHEERS
latest issue of FOX 3 issue NOV 2014 is out now
enjoy!!
http://www.defense-aerospace.com/dae/sponsors/sponsor_rafale/img/fox3_18.pdf
too lazy to post snipped pics man!!
why i am so awesome on providing latest info on rafale in various forums i just cant understand
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OK!!
latest issue of FOX 3 issue NOV 2014 is out now
enjoy!!
http://www.defense-aerospace.com/dae/sponsors/sponsor_rafale/img/fox3_18.pdf
too lazy to post snipped pics man!!
why i am so awesome on providing latest info on rafale in various forums i just cant understand
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U should be made an analyst here,,,,far too many useless people are selected
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^^
but i am a troll for some here in this forum
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but i am a troll for some here in this forum
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I know who u point to,the famous tta who writes long paragraphs,none of which are comprehensible.On the top of that he likes congress
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French Defence Minister to visit India | Business Standard News
French Defence Minister Jean-Yves Le Drian will arrive inIndia on a three-day visit later this month to hold talks with his counterpart Manohar Parrikar during which the issue of the multi-billion dollar deal for Rafale combat aircraft is likely to come up.
He will arrive in India on November 30 and hold a series of meetings with top defence and government officials the next day.
Defence sources said the meeting with Parrikar will take place at the Army Battle Honour Mess rather than at the South Block.
This will be Parrikar's first meeting with a foreign dignitary after he took charge of the Defence Ministry earlier this month.
Though sources said no "restricted meeting" is scheduled, the aircraft deal is likely to come up as the French government is keen to wrap it up as soon as possible.
The sources maintained that specific deals are not discussed in regular meetings.
Restricted meeting is one when the Ministers meet without officials being present.
Incidentally, French Foreign Minister Laurent Fabius had met External Affairs Minister Sushma Swaraj and then Defence Minister Arun Jaitley in June and had pushed for early purchase of Rafale combat jet planes.
Fabius had said France hopes that with the new government, which was keen on efficiency, the implementation of the decision will be swift and had expressed confidence of a "positive outcome" to the ongoing negotiations in the deal.
Asserting that there was a difference in "some time" and "too long", Fabius had said that Rafale meets all the requirements of India, including cutting-edge technology and highest quality.
India had selected Rafale combat aircraft in a deal estimated to be over Rs 60,000 crore three years ago but the negotiations are still continuing between Indian Defence Ministry and the French firm Dassault Aviation as there have been issues over pricing and work-sharing.
The air force has been pitching very hard for the deal to go through and says it urgently needs the twin-engine multi-role fighter to maintain a combat edge against Pakistan.
Rafale, which would replace India's Russian-made fleet of MiG-21 and MiG-27 planes, had stood over combat aircraft manufactured by rivals like Boeing and Lockheed Martin.
French Defence Minister Jean-Yves Le Drian will arrive inIndia on a three-day visit later this month to hold talks with his counterpart Manohar Parrikar during which the issue of the multi-billion dollar deal for Rafale combat aircraft is likely to come up.
He will arrive in India on November 30 and hold a series of meetings with top defence and government officials the next day.
Defence sources said the meeting with Parrikar will take place at the Army Battle Honour Mess rather than at the South Block.
This will be Parrikar's first meeting with a foreign dignitary after he took charge of the Defence Ministry earlier this month.
Though sources said no "restricted meeting" is scheduled, the aircraft deal is likely to come up as the French government is keen to wrap it up as soon as possible.
The sources maintained that specific deals are not discussed in regular meetings.
Restricted meeting is one when the Ministers meet without officials being present.
Incidentally, French Foreign Minister Laurent Fabius had met External Affairs Minister Sushma Swaraj and then Defence Minister Arun Jaitley in June and had pushed for early purchase of Rafale combat jet planes.
Fabius had said France hopes that with the new government, which was keen on efficiency, the implementation of the decision will be swift and had expressed confidence of a "positive outcome" to the ongoing negotiations in the deal.
Asserting that there was a difference in "some time" and "too long", Fabius had said that Rafale meets all the requirements of India, including cutting-edge technology and highest quality.
India had selected Rafale combat aircraft in a deal estimated to be over Rs 60,000 crore three years ago but the negotiations are still continuing between Indian Defence Ministry and the French firm Dassault Aviation as there have been issues over pricing and work-sharing.
The air force has been pitching very hard for the deal to go through and says it urgently needs the twin-engine multi-role fighter to maintain a combat edge against Pakistan.
Rafale, which would replace India's Russian-made fleet of MiG-21 and MiG-27 planes, had stood over combat aircraft manufactured by rivals like Boeing and Lockheed Martin.
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@halloweene
Do you have any range specs for visual ID of air targets with the Talios pod as well as the maximum range of imaging?
Btw, OT but seems to be an interesting development for Meteor:
Japan, Britain To Collaborate On Meteor Guidance | AWIN ONLY content from Aviation Week
Would be interesting if that upgrade would be available for export customers too, or if that's a specific upgrade for Japan and the UK?
Do you have any range specs for visual ID of air targets with the Talios pod as well as the maximum range of imaging?
Btw, OT but seems to be an interesting development for Meteor:
Japan, Britain To Collaborate On Meteor Guidance | AWIN ONLY content from Aviation Week
Would be interesting if that upgrade would be available for export customers too, or if that's a specific upgrade for Japan and the UK?
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India will cancel rafael deal for mistral delay latest
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Rafale F3R offered to belgium
Is it an offer they can refuse? As reported in Belgian media these days. Dassault has offered Belgium its latest Rafale model, the Rafale F3 R, as replacement for the Belgian Air Components aging F-16s. The offer includes a major technology transfer between the two countries. Competition however is strong.
Dassault, which along with Snecma and Thales opened an office in Brussels, says it is able to deliver Rafale F3R aircraft to Belgium from 2018 on. It will include the latest SPECTRA electronic warfare system, BE2 EASA active radar, state of the art laser designation equipment for precision air-to-ground strikes, plus the ability to use METEOR long range air-to-air missile.
France is pumping 1 billion euro into further development of the Rafale. The F3 R standard is, according to Dassult, an evolution of the Rafale F3 standard.
Rafale F3 R offered to Belgium | AIRheads↑FLY
P.S i just cant understand why cant india get F3R version of rafale why F3 +
Is it an offer they can refuse? As reported in Belgian media these days. Dassault has offered Belgium its latest Rafale model, the Rafale F3 R, as replacement for the Belgian Air Components aging F-16s. The offer includes a major technology transfer between the two countries. Competition however is strong.
Dassault, which along with Snecma and Thales opened an office in Brussels, says it is able to deliver Rafale F3R aircraft to Belgium from 2018 on. It will include the latest SPECTRA electronic warfare system, BE2 EASA active radar, state of the art laser designation equipment for precision air-to-ground strikes, plus the ability to use METEOR long range air-to-air missile.
France is pumping 1 billion euro into further development of the Rafale. The F3 R standard is, according to Dassult, an evolution of the Rafale F3 standard.
Rafale F3 R offered to Belgium | AIRheads↑FLY
P.S i just cant understand why cant india get F3R version of rafale why F3 +
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Simply because the RFP initially was aimed on fighters that could be delivered around 2015/16, which is why Dassault offered the F3+, their current production standard. That the tender is delayed and that in the mean time upgrades or lack of capabilities happend, is another issue.
Not to mention that the F3R hardly offer anything important to India, METEOR missile, some radar and avionics upgrades, while most of the upgrades developed for the French forces are aimed on NATO standards and not useful for India anyway. We can get more out of Rafale by customizing the F3+, rather than from the F3R.
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