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ISLAMABAD: The government is making efforts to calculate the latest estimates of losses borne by Pakistan’s economy in the last 12 years after becoming an ally of the US in its war against terrorism since 9/11, 2001, The News has learnt.

These mind boggling figures, which are in the process of finalisation, might be released in the upcoming Economic Survey 2012-13, which will be launched just ahead of next budget announcement. The decision to insert latest estimates on war on terror will be taken by the incoming government of the PML-N but official circles confirmed that efforts are underway to come up with latest estimates on total losses.

According to very initial and rough estimates, the losses incurred by different sectors of Pakistan’s economy in the last 12 years might go close to $100 billion mark.In return, Pakistan had so far received around $15 billion through official channels on account of over $10 billion in shape of Coalition Support Fund (CSF) compared to official losses of $68 billion till fiscal year 2010-11, so only 14 percent losses were reimbursed by the US.

In the head of military assistance in shape of FMF (Foreign Military Fund), Pakistan received $2.1 billion, grants for the economy to the tune of $1.5 billion, budgetary support of $1.2 billion and debt write- off $1.5 billion. However, it is not yet known that how much amount the US disbursed through non governmental organisations (NGOs), international NGOs and some other initiatives such United Nations in disasters like earthquake and floods.

When spokesperson for the US embassy was contacted on Sunday, she said that the US provided $3.5 billion assistance to Pakistan since October 2009 in shape of civilian and military aid but it did not include reimbursement amount of CSF. She concluded by promising to share overall assistance being provided by the US to Pakistan on all heads including CSF, civil and military assistance and all kinds of initiatives since 9/11, 2001 within coming week.

“The Finance Ministry, in consultation with the Foreign Office and other ministries are working to calculate latest figures on losses incurred by Pakistan’s economy after becoming frontline state in the US-led war against terrorism,” official sources told The News.

A senior official who is involved in the budget making process told this scribe that the Foreign Office was taking lead on this subject while the Finance Ministry’s Adviser Wing was playing crucial role to come up with latest estimates.

Two years back, the former PPP-led regime had unveiled in the Economic Survey 2010-11 that Pakistan’s financial losses stood at $68 billion for various sectors of the economy in the aftermath of becoming an ally in the US-led war against terrorism. But the government had not given update on its losses in the last Economic Survey of 2011-12 but now efforts are underway to come up with latest estimates prepared on the basis of projections shared by all relevant ministries on official basis.

The cost of war on Pakistan’s economy had risen to $17.8 billion for the financial year 2010-11. Pakistan had to face innumerable losses on account of precious human life losses as well as financial losses incurred to the country’s economy.

Consequently, economic growth slowed and demands for imports reduced with consequential decline in tax collection and inflows of foreign investment were naturally adversely affected, accentuated by the travel bans issued by western governments to its entrepreneurs.

The cost of war incurred losses to Pakistan was standing in the range of $2.669 billion in fiscal year 2001-02, $2.749 billion in 2002-03, $2.932 billion in 2003-04, $3.410 billion in 2004-05, $4.670 billion in 2005-06, $4.670 billion in 2006-07, $6.940 billion in 2007-08, $9.180 billion in 2008-09, $13.560 billion in 2009-10 and $17.830 billion in 2010-11, totalling the cost of war to $67.926 billion in the last 10 years.

Alone in fiscal year 2010-11, the country’s exports dwindled to the tune of $2.90 billion, compensation to affectees caused $0.80 billion losses, damage to physical infrastructure $1.72 billion, foreign investment declined by $2.10 billion, privatisation could not materialise $1.10 billion, industrial output impacted negatively by $1.70 billion, tax collection nosedived by $2.10 billion, cost of uncertainty $2.90 billion, expenditures overrun $1.60 billion and others $ 0.90 billion, totalling the cost up to $17.82 billion just in one year.

Pakistan continued to pay a heavy price in terms of both the economic and security terms. A large portion of its resources, both men and material, are being consumed by this war for the last several years.

The economy was subjected to enormous direct and indirect costs which continued to rise from $2.669 billion in 2001-02 to $13.6 billion by 2009-10, and rose to $17.8 billion in 2010-11, and moving forward, the direct and indirect costs to the economy might rise further.

Despite repeated attempts to get version of Secretary Finance Dr Waqar Masood, he did not reply SMS till filing of this report.
 
The wages of sin...

A logical result of over emphasizing the Military side of the state.....

Mr.Kena,the situation is not normal,Pakistan somehow is dragged in a war of terror,and we are paying price for it.
 
But still Pakistan will follow american propaganda and will lose more economy and money. because our leaders are just jackals.
 
We need to disengage from American WOT, fence Afghan border and deal with TTP mofos at our own without the label of American Ally..
 
Speaking of transaction based relations:

According to very initial and rough estimates, the losses incurred by different sectors of Pakistan’s economy in the last 12 years might go close to $100 billion mark.In return, Pakistan had so far received around $15 billion through official channels on account of over $10 billion in shape of Coalition Support Fund (CSF) compared to official losses of $68 billion till fiscal year 2010-11, so only 14 percent losses were reimbursed by the US.

Read more Free money please

Now WHAT EXACTLY constitute the so called "losses" ??? Lets see if we get even a single answer to this question
 
How about the psychological cost of the WOT? This one is incalculable.

However, read this....

ISLAMABAD:

The colossal financial losses suffered by Pakistan because of the war on terror will officially remain classified, as Finance Minister Ishaq Dar decided to exclude the chapter carrying details of the losses from the Economic Survey of Pakistan.

While launching the Survey for fiscal 2012-13, Dar claimed the figures that were worked out by the ministry of finance were not credible and to save Pakistan from potential embarrassment by providing false information, he decided to exclude the chapter on the war on terrorism at the eleventh hour.

“Initially I was informed that the losses were between $80 billion and $100 billion but later on the officials came up with a figure of $125 billion, which appeared unrealistic to me,” said Dar. He said the ministry also added the cost of opportunity due to the war in the actual losses, but the officials “could not convince me about this figure”.

Undue pressure?: War on terror chapter chucked out at eleventh hour – The Express Tribune

So the point is, will the ministries concerned give out the details as to how they arrived at this astronomical figure? They haven't been able to convince the finance minister anyway!

Now WHAT EXACTLY constitute the so called "losses" ??? Lets see if we get even a single answer to this question

The calculation would include the following (not in any particular order):

> Military personnel funds to provide special pay for deployed personnel such as
hostile fire or separation pay and to cover the additional cost of activating
reservists and paramilitary forces.

> Operation and Maintenance (O&M) funds to transport troops and their equipment
to combat areas in the North/AfPak region, conduct military operations, logistics support
and repairing/replacing war-worn equipment.

> Procurement funding to cover buying new weapons systems to replace losses, and upgrade equipment.

> Continuous repairs to infrastructure like roads and bridges due to heavy movement of war related equipment.

> Reimbursement for the thousands of casualties suffered as a consequence of the WOT.

> Loss to the exchequer due to tourism that has been badly hit.

> Financial help to Afghan refugees.

So, even if one includes all the above, a figure of $100 billion is way too high. It probably would be less than half what has been mentioned.
 
Speaking of traction based relations:

According to very initial and rough estimates, the losses incurred by different sectors of Pakistan’s economy in the last 12 years might go close to $100 billion mark.In return, Pakistan had so far received around $15 billion through official channels on account of over $10 billion in shape of Coalition Support Fund (CSF) compared to official losses of $68 billion till fiscal year 2010-11, so only 14 percent losses were reimbursed by the US.

Read more Free money please

Now WHAT EXACTLY constitute the so called "losses" ??? Lets see if we get even a single answer to this question

Nobody believes these claimed figures anyway, whether 60 or 100 or even $200 billion. We have zero credibility.
 
How about the psychological cost of the WOT? This one is incalculable.

However, read this....

ISLAMABAD:

The colossal financial losses suffered by Pakistan because of the war on terror will officially remain classified, as Finance Minister Ishaq Dar decided to exclude the chapter carrying details of the losses from the Economic Survey of Pakistan.

While launching the Survey for fiscal 2012-13, Dar claimed the figures that were worked out by the ministry of finance were not credible and to save Pakistan from potential embarrassment by providing false information, he decided to exclude the chapter on the war on terrorism at the eleventh hour.

“Initially I was informed that the losses were between $80 billion and $100 billion but later on the officials came up with a figure of $125 billion, which appeared unrealistic to me,” said Dar. He said the ministry also added the cost of opportunity due to the war in the actual losses, but the officials “could not convince me about this figure”.

Undue pressure?: War on terror chapter chucked out at eleventh hour – The Express Tribune

So the point is, will the ministries concerned give out the details as to how they arrived at this astronomical figure? They haven't been able to convince the finance minister anyway!



The calculation would include the following (not in any particular order):

> Military personnel funds to provide special pay for deployed personnel such as
hostile fire or separation pay and to cover the additional cost of activating
reservists and paramilitary forces.

> Operation and Maintenance (O&M) funds to transport troops and their equipment
to combat areas in the North/AfPak region, conduct military operations, logistics support
and repairing/replacing war-worn equipment.

> Procurement funding to cover buying new weapons systems to replace losses, and upgrade equipment.

> Continuous repairs to infrastructure like roads and bridges due to heavy movement of war related equipment.

> Reimbursement for the thousands of casualties suffered as a consequence of the WOT.

> Loss to the exchequer due to tourism that has been badly hit.

> Financial help to Afghan refugees.

So, even if one includes all the above, a figure of $100 billion is way too high. It probably would be less than half what has been mentioned.

Nobody is nor should be expected to PAY Pakistanis to save themselves - if they (Pakistanis) think that the world OWES them for saving themselves then they are just deluded
 
goof man we suffered a loss of $200 billion..........$100 billion that we lost during 13 years and another $100 billion that we would have earned during those 13 years if musharaf would have not joined the american war of terror after getting scared of stone age threat.



is vietnam in stone age now sir?

did they not took on nuclear US?

did they got scared?

were they having nukes?

were they not shooting at B-52's with machine guns?

if a person has inferior weaponry than his opponent,,,,then it means dont take a stand?

does it means join hands with evil if you cant fight the evil?

is this a joke?
 
Speaking of traction based relations:

According to very initial and rough estimates, the losses incurred by different sectors of Pakistan’s economy in the last 12 years might go close to $100 billion mark.In return, Pakistan had so far received around $15 billion through official channels on account of over $10 billion in shape of Coalition Support Fund (CSF) compared to official losses of $68 billion till fiscal year 2010-11, so only 14 percent losses were reimbursed by the US.

Read more Free money please

Now WHAT EXACTLY constitute the so called "losses" ??? Lets see if we get even a single answer to this question

When getting down to the details, why not dig out the losses owing to the failures of the Pakistan's armed forces, counterproductive policies of the government of Pakistan, and collusion of the armed personnel as well as the civilians with those waging the war on the Pakistan nation?

Averaging at $ 10 Billion (or $6.7 B @ $67 B in 10 years), the losses go well beyond the budget of the Army, which is directly engaged in this war. So in effect, this war were due to come heavily down on Pakistan irrespective of the Army's engagement.

Yet, we hear the same rhetoric from all the quarters about how this war was an unjustified imposition and has cost Pakistan so much etc., when time and again we have witnessed their own unforgivable collusion with the adversaries.

The war is inside Pakistan, and no one dares to look in the right direction... so why even calculate the losses?
 
When getting down to the details, why not dig out the losses owing to the failures of the Pakistan's armed forces, counterproductive policies of the government of Pakistan, and collusion of the armed personnel as well as the civilians with those waging the war on the Pakistan nation?

Averaging at $ 10 Billion (or $6.7 B @ $67 B in 10 years), the losses go well beyond the budget of the Army, which is directly engaged in this war. So in effect, this war were due to come heavily down on Pakistan irrespective of the Army's engagement.

Yet, we hear the same rhetoric from all the quarters about how this war was an unjustified imposition and has cost Pakistan so much etc., when time and again we have witnessed their own unforgivable collusion with the adversaries.

The war is inside Pakistan, and no one dares to look in the right direction... so why even calculate the losses?

oh oh - yeh kiya kahdiya aap neh? Pak Fauj failure? No such thing - Pak "gormint" failure? No such thing, PPP is failure, after 5 yrs it will be PML-N
 

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