Prophet Muhammad(PBUH) said Seek Knowledge Even in China & its meaning to Pakistan

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  1. Ahmad

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    I think he meant fake Ahadith. They do exist and alot of them. somewhere i read Imam Bukharai used to know a huge number of them.
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    Besides the Makkah Metro...

    In 2008, Sino-Saudi bilateral trade was worth € 32,500,000,000, making Saudi Arabia China's largest trading partner in Western Asia. In the first quarter of 2010, Saudi oil export to China has reached over 1 million barrels, exceeding export to USA.

    Following the 2008 Sichuan earthquake, Saudi Arabia was the largest aid donor to China, providing close to € 40,000,000 in financial assistance, and an additional € 8,000,000 worth of relief materials.Link


    Not only with Pakistan, China has good relations with Muslim world in general... lets see more in future, one approved by the Prophet Muammad peace and blessings must be different from others...:tup::china:
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    I agree with you. China is not blessed !! Mohammed just mentioned it "how far is it? no matter go and get the knowledge and science !!"

    I think that's why Mohammed used china coz its very far for middle-east.
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  4. Salik

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    This Hadith is hasan for some scholars... any way if a Hadith is correct in its meanings IS acceptable even if its Da'if according to science of Hadiths.


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    well time will tell and also telling and we're seeing how much China is blessed for Muslims and Pakistan

    we have positive thinking...
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    With regard to the hadeeth mentioned, “Seek knowledge even if you have to go as far as China, for seeking knowledge is a duty on every Muslim,” Shaykh al-Albaani said in Da’eef al-Jaami’: “(It is) fabricated.”
    The proven hadeeth is that which was narrated by Ibn Maajah from the hadeeth of Anas ibn Maalik, who said: “The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: ‘Seeking knowledge is obligatory upon every Muslim.’” (220. Classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in Saheeh Sunan Ibn Maajah. What is meant by knowledge here is knowledge of sharee’ah (Islamic knowledge). Al-Thawri said: “It is the knowledge for which no person has any excuse for not knowing.” And Allaah knows best.
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    Jana there are hundreds and hundreds of fabricated Hadiths rooming around in muslim world which r taken as authatic but when u dig deep the truth comes out, you just have to find authatic source but as they say "what is authantic for u is Unauthantic to me" curse of divisions in Islam on Maslaki lines.

    Anyway this is one of my email address: estrogen88@yahoo.com, feel free to contact i will send u the book full of fabricated hadiths rooming around. :cheers:
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    Surely seeking knowledge in China does not mean Islamic knowledge. During the Prophet’s period, China was also known to have deep knowledge in such fields as medicine, literature and paper, explosives and many others.Link


    Take care if this Hadith is proved 'not fabricated'... I can provide links which say this Hadith is hasan or da'if
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    I thought the Hadith was that "seek knowledge even if you have to go china"
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    Now we are getting the point! :tup:
    See, China was very far away from arabia, so the Prophet says, that you have to seek knowledge, even if you had to go to China!

    Makes sense !!!!!!
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    Sorry for interrupting.. I am just curious. Why do you guys always follow Prophet Mohammad with "PBUH" or SAW? Is it only in Pakistan? Can some one explain? Thanks!
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    Sir Ahadith are very sensitive issue and debating on them requires a lot of knowledge and background.People like you and me who don't have any such level can't debate on such sensitive things.

    There was no need to connect a Hadith with Pakistan-China relationship.

    If you felt a dire need to post the Hadith.you should have posted the exact wording and mention the reference of it without connecting it with Pak-China friendship as it will create a lot of mis-understandings and no-one on this forum has so much knowledge to discuss the background in detail

    Remember no-one is allowed to change/replace even a single word from the sayings of HAZRAT MUHAMMAD (PBUH).
    Even adding one single word by yourself in Hadith is a big big sin.

    So i will request you to kindly delete this thread .Please


    Moderators: Please close this thread ,
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    I don't know about your religious background whether you are muslim or not but kindly write/take the name with respect i.e HAZRAT MUHAMMAD (PBUH)
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    Its not only in Pakistan, any where a Muslim must say these words, when he or she takes Prophet Muhammad PBUH name.

    PBUH means Peace Be Upon Him.

    SAW u wont understand its just arabic and islamic way of taking Prophet's name.
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    I know exactly from where u r coming brother, Imam Bukhari and fake hadiths r like pole's apart, complete opposite.

    Next time u here some one saying that, he might be fake himself.
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    There is a difference between Daeef (weak) and Modu (fabricated)... they are not the same...

    As far as I have heard, this hadith is Daeef... however there are numerous Sahih Ahadith as well as verses of Quran that emphasize thinking and gaining knowledge!!!
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