punjab govt and terror link (pakistan)

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    SLAMABAD: The government of Pakistan's heartland Punjab province is using militant groups to drum up electoral support, analysts and officials say, preventing it from admitting it has a problem with home-grown militants and from dealing with them.

    High-profile attacks in Punjab, such as last month's suicide assaults on two Ahmadi mosques in Lahore that killed scores, have outraged and horrified Pakistanis.

    They have also sparked talk of an operation against Punjabi groups along the lines of the Pakistani army's push against Taliban militants on the western border with Afghanistan.

    The United States and India are becoming increasingly concerned about Punjab because it is Pakistan's richest and most populous province. Any large-scale insurgency there would almost certainly destabilise Pakistan even more.

    But the Punjab government, led by the Pakistan Muslim League-Nawaz (PML-N) that is in opposition nationally, denies Punjab is hosting militants or that a major operation is needed.

    “Let's not open a Pandora's box,” a senior provincial official said, commenting on the possibility of a strong push against Punjab-based militants. “We don't want widespread violence along sectarian lines.”

    However, the ruling Pakistan People's Party (PPP), experts on militancy and much of the country's media say the PML-N is playing politics with terrorists in a bid to retain its edge in Punjab's local elections.

    The so-called Punjabi Taliban are a loose collection of militant groups that often started out as state-sponsored groups for Pakistan to use as foreign policy tools, but have since slipped the state's leash and become entangled with the Tehrik-i-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) — the Pakistani Taliban — al Qaeda and with each other in a war against the state.

    All are banned by the Pakistani state yet all operate with a degree of openness in Punjab, said Rehman Malik, Pakistan's interior minister and a senior member of the PPP.

    Malik surprised many last week when he acknowledged that Lashkar-i-Jhangvi (LJ), Sipah-i-Sahaba-Pakistan (SSP) and Jaish-i-Mohammad (JM) — along with 29 other banned groups — were operating in Punjab and allied with the TTP and al Qaeda.

    He also that 726 out of more than 1,700 members of banned groups were from Punjab. It was the first public statement from a senior official at federal level that such a problem exists.

    The PML-N and the Punjab provincial government have been more reticent.

    “They (the PML-N) don't use the word 'Taliban',” Punjab Governor Salman Taseer, a member of the PPP, told Reuters.

    “Call them what they are, Punjabi Taliban or Taliban from Punjab. Don't try to cover them up and say this doesn't exist.”

    While the Punjab government, led by Chief Minister Shabaz Sharif of PML-N, has often denounced the TTP and attacks originating in the tribal areas, he and his party have yet to denounce similar attacks by banned Punjabi groups. They have also failed to crack down on public rallies by the groups or move against militant madrassahs.

    Rana Sanaullah, the law minister of Punjab and a senior PML-N figure, in February campaigned with the head of the SSP, a group that has said all Shia Muslims should be killed.

    Shabaz Sharif was widely interpreted to have appealed publicly to the Pakistani Taliban in March not to attack Punjab because the PML-N also opposed American policy in the region.

    He and the PML-N later said his words were taken out of context, but he was widely scorned in the media.

    Using vote banks

    “I think there's definitely a very mundane desire by the Sharifs to keep these groups on board so they can use their vote banks in elections,” said journalist and analyst Ahmed Rashid, an expert on militancy.

    “And obviously these groups are very anti-PPP.”

    A PML-N spokesman, Ahsan Iqbal, denied there was anything improper about Sanaullah campaigning for the PML-N with Muhammad Ahmad Ludhianvi, the head of the banned SSP.

    “Those 48,000 votes he got, they were not extremists' votes,” Iqbal told Reuters.

    “Politics in the rural areas are very tribal and clan based. When the candidates campaign, they try to maximise support.”

    “They are just playing politics with Punjab because there is a PML-N government in Punjab,” he said. “It is very bad politics to play politics on the issue of terrorism.”

    The United States and India have long demanded a crackdown on militant religious schools, or madrassahs, key recruitment centres for banned groups. However, there has been little such action, as both parties fear a backlash from militant Islamists.

    “There are many centres, madrassahs, in southern Punjab, which are run by these hate organisations like Sipah-i-Sahaba, Lashkar-i-Jhangvi and so many of these,” Taseer told Reuters.

    “I think you should recognise the fact that there are terrorists in Punjab and deal with them.”

    PML-N's Iqbal said that, unlike in Pakistan's northwest where militants had taken control of territories, "not a single inch of Punjab is under the control of terrorist organisations".

    He added that while the groups may operate out of mosques or madrassahs, they haven't created a state within a state.

    A security official in Punjab, who declined to be identified, said about 4,000 young men affiliated with various militant groups were under surveillance.

    Rashid says this is business as usual.

    "Is the police going after the head honchos?" he said. "You certainly don't get that sense at all."

    A real risk of a push against the groups would be that, with so many armed militants, the state might lose. And even if operations were successful, the militants would likely scatter even more, leading to additional attacks from splinter groups.

    "They don't want to create a...security crisis in Punjab," Rashid said. "But actually, there is one already, because the terrorists are not giving up
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    is there conflict between Punjab govt and Pakistan govt
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    No conflict, Jamat Ul Dawa is a religious orginisation and religious orginisations recieve funding from the government, we are a Muslim country last time i checked.

    JUD may have links to one or the other but it has done a lot of good work, their centre in Islamabad is a school of excellence on Islamic teachings and people come from a far a field as Malaysia, China, USA and Europe to study there.

    JUD also does a great deal of charity work, it was one of the most active volunteer agencies during the 2005 and Baluchistan Earthquake. It also provides free lodging to destitute children, in a nation with very little social security JUD is seen as a Godsend, just like EDHI.

    Next thing you know, EDHI will be on some terrorist list.
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    right you are Muslim nation but why Muslim are not happy in Muslim nation why every time fighting with you why ??


    well at least you accept one or two but numbers are more

    why all worlds see them as the dangerous like Taliban
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    ?? What? The people you see fighting, do not do so in the name of Islam. So get that fact stright...

    Source? an impartial one would be nice please.

    Who? Muslims? Im sorry if you think that the whole world see's muslims as Terrorists then you are in need of a serious reality check. Do you remember the cold war and the stigma associated with being a Commie?

    Different name, same story!
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    Where is the link???

    Mods.. please delete this thread...
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    Well, there is a conflict. That being that PPP [Asif Zardari] is ruling federal government while PML-N [Mian Nawaz Sharif] is ruling in the Punjab. The two have been bitter political rivals for last twenty years. So, the political point scoring of these statements must be kept in mind.

    Plus the argument that Punajb government is getting votes from religious outfits and thus ignoring their activities is ill-found, since the Punjab Governor, who belongs to PPP, was seen doing the same in one of the constituencies.

    Also, the outcry that Punjab government is denying presence of militants is base-less.

    LAHORE: The Senior Advisor to Chief Minister Punjab Zulfiqar Khosa on Friday admitted that recruitments were being made from terrorist groups in South Punjab and said that the government was well aware of its responsibilities.

    While talking to the media in Lahore, Khosa said that only one minister, who had not even seen the entire province, was talking about Punjabi Taliban.

    He said that the contacts which the jihadi groups had built in South Punjab during the Soviet war were still intact today and recruitment were being made through these cells.

    Khosa said that the provincial government was well aware of its responsibilities and claimed that there were no training camps of terrorists in Punjab.—DawnNews


    The Punjab government denies that there are no safe havens, and this has been backed by federal minsiters as well. Plus, both have argued that targetted action, and not military operation, is a solution to Punjab problem. Preparations for such an action have been discussed and are underway.
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