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Turkey’s deeply strained ties with one-time ally Israel has found new venues for potential tension: NATO and the eastern Mediterranean.

In mid-February, NATO Secretary General Anders Fogh Rasmussen arrived in the Turkish capital to celebrate the only Muslim ally’s 60th anniversary as a member.

Instead, his Turkish hosts asked him to give assurances that any data and intelligence gathered from an X-band radar stationed last year on Turkish soil would not be shared with Israel.

Speaking in Ankara at a joint press conference, Turkish Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutoğlu said “Turkey will never allow any third country, particularly Israel, to use intelligence obtained by the NATO radar system.” A reluctant Rasmussen said that any NATO defense shield aimed to protect the populations of the alliance.

The dispute surfaced after reports that the United States and Israel had carried out a joint missile test by using intelligence gathered by that radar system based in eastern Turkey. Last year Ankara, after lengthy negotiations with NATO, decided to host in a military facility base near Malatya as part of NATO’s defense architecture.

Ideally, in the event of a launch of a ballistic missile from a rogue state, it would be detected by the Turkish-deployed X-band radar, and U.S.-made SM-3 interceptors – based on U.S. Aegis destroyers to be deployed in the eastern Mediterranean and later possibly in Romania – would then be fired to hit the incoming missile mid-flight.

Turkey and Israel boosted their cooperation to a strategic level in the mid-1990s, and Turkey began to use Israel as a weapons supplier, in cases where it was unable to get U.S. defense material. Israel used Turkey’s vast air space in exercises against Arab foes.

But this cooperation faltered after 2005 as Turkey defended Palestinians against Israeli persecution. After May 2010, when Israeli commandos raided a Turkish aid flotilla, killing nine Turks on board, their relations went to a nadir. Turks last year downgraded diplomatic ties with Israel and cut all military relations.

But despite NATO’s assurances, the Turks do not feel comfortable. “The U.S. is a NATO member and Israel’s major ally. We do not think there can be effective mechanisms to stop the Pentagon if it wished to share data with Israel privately,” a senior Turkish security official said. “And this possibility has the risk of straining both Turkish-U.S. and Turkish-NATO alliance especially at a time when Turkey’s ties with both are very good.”

Another potential trouble zone is the eastern Mediterranean where Israel and Greek Cyprus are preparing to explore for hydrocarbons despite repeated Turkish threats to intervene, “militarily if necessary.”

Turkey warned last September that it was ready to send warships to escort research vessels that would explore for oil and gas off the coast of Cyprus, responding to what it said was a provocation by the island’s Greek Cypriot south.

The Turkish move came as Texas-based Noble Energy began exploratory drilling farther south between Cyprus and Israel early this year. Noble was operating under license from the Republic of Cyprus, the island’s internationally recognized government in the Greek Cypriot south. The developments raised the stakes in a dispute over drilling rights around the divided island.

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G-d forbid Israel joins NATO... I would never want to see such a stupid move, it would be like joining the EU... No, thanks.
 
Israel could use Nato as a shield against Iran if they are illogical as to strike Iranian nuclear facilities...

G-d forbid Israel joins NATO... I would never want to see such a stupid move, it would be like joining the EU... No, thanks.

Are you kidding us with that statement or do you really think that god really forbid Israel to Nato?
 
Israel could use Nato as a shield against Iran if they are illogical as to strike Iranian nuclear facilities...



Are you kidding us with that statement or do you really think that god really forbid Israel to Nato?
G-d forbid is a phrase that means "I ask you G-d, please do not allow this to happen". A common phrase in the English language.
NATO is useless and so is the EU, Turkey can have them both, i do not want to see Israel join either.
 
G-d forbid is a phrase that means "I ask you G-d, please do not allow this to happen". A common phrase in the English language.
NATO is useless and so is the EU, Turkey can have them both, i do not want to see Israel join either.
i dont understand
why?
 
NATO (as an alliance) will not last beyond 2015 -going at the rate it's going.


the cold war is long over
 
NATO (as an alliance) will not last beyond 2015 -going at the rate it's going.


the cold war is long over

as much as i like your posts, i would dissagree with this one. what makes you believe it?

NATO wasn't made just to counter Warsaw pact, if it was then NATO would have been abandoned in the start of the century.

NATO stays much more stronger today than when it was in the cold war!
 
No it isnt.....you have French selling Mistral class assault ships to Moscow, you have Georgia (a prospective member of NATO) getting it's arse kicked by Russia in 2008 (NO help from NATO)......you have 2 NATO member-states that still have an outstanding bilateral issue to solve (Cyprus)......you have withering military cooperation between France and Germany vis-a-vis the USA (look at how they are losing the heart to keep up the ''fight'' in Afghanistan)


you call this an alliance :laugh:


i was laughing at this alliance when South Ossetia's airspace was dominated by Russians and nobody did nothing about it....


ne diyosun yaaaaw



(i mean no disrespect whatsoever to Turkiye, which is a member-state of NATO)










p.s. i heard there are NATO member states and affiliates who send doctors and indirectly send aid and weapons to PKK terrorists --which attack and cause nuisance to Turkiye, a NATO-member
 
G-d forbid is a phrase that means "I ask you G-d, please do not allow this to happen". A common phrase in the English language.
NATO is useless and so is the EU, Turkey can have them both, i do not want to see Israel join either.

Hahahah, sorry about that!! There are really few non-religious people on this forum and I got used to these extreme posts... I should guess that in first place but I really started to epect worse from people when it comes to religion specially in this forum :D
 
No it isnt.....you have French selling Mistral class assault ships to Moscow, you have Georgia (a prospective member of NATO) getting it's arse kicked by Russia in 2008 (NO help from NATO)......you have 2 NATO member-states that still have an outstanding bilateral issue to solve (Cyprus)......you have withering military cooperation between France and Germany vis-a-vis the USA (look at how they are losing the heart to keep up the ''fight'' in Afghanistan)

Im sure the French generals and NATO generals know what is going on when selling veichles to Russia.

and Georgia isn't a NATO member, you could say a friend but nothing more than that. just like Israel.

Cyprus issue doesn't concern NATO. it has been a issue between Turkey, Cyprus and partially Greece. NATO didn't get involved in the conflict, nor can they be. Cyprus isn't a NATO member, Greece can ***** and moan.

you call this an alliance :laugh:


i was laughing at this alliance when South Ossetia's airspace was dominated by Russians and nobody did nothing about it....

Again, South osseatia is a whole different issue. NATO doesn't even recognize South ossetia. why would they protect it then.


p.s. i heard there are NATO member states and affiliates who send doctors and indirectly send aid and weapons to PKK terrorists --which attack and cause nuisance to Turkiye, a NATO-member

could be, i heard some rumors to, but they where from the 80's and to mid 90's. and again only rumors, since Turkey had coups at that time and NATO didn't want to loose a vital ally to communists or someone else, they might have supported terrorist groups to make Turkey get closer to NATO. only assumptions.
 

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