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Why Pakistan’s army is more popular than its politicians



Earlier this month, Pakistani journalist Najam Sethi sketched his thesis on why the army dominated Pakistan. He explained it in historical and cultural terms. He cited Jinnah’s aggregation of power, the Muslim League’s unconstitutional approach (referring to the violence of Direct Action Day) in getting what it wanted, the army’s cultural connections with rural society and so on.


He showed also how, correspondingly, in India the situation was different, because its leaders had always been constitutionally minded. The Congress party had a democratic history going back to 1885, and Nehru represented its third generation of leaders.

Najam Sethi convincingly showed why the army was dominant in Pakistan. However, his thesis does not account for its popularity.

A Pew poll reported by Reuters a few months ago said the army was “overwhelmingly popular” in Pakistan. It said 79 percent of Pakistanis thought their army “had a good influence on the country.” The poll was taken after Osama bin Laden’s killing to see if the army had suffered in popularity. It hadn’t.

This devotion to their army is obvious to those who follow Pakistan’s media. The Urdu media especially, but also much of the English media.

The army is more popular in Pakistan than the country’s political parties and its elected leaders.

The question is why. Why is an army that imposed dictatorship on Pakistanis four times (1958, 1969, 1978 and 1999), displaced governments Pakistanis elected another three times (1990, 1993, 1996) and hanged a prime minister still popular? Why do Pakistanis love the ISI, an institution whose chief Lt Gen Asad Durrani says on oath that it meddles in elections, and spent US$ 1.6 million to see the PPP defeated?

Why do Pakistanis support an army that eats up a fourth of their budget (actual figures suggest a third), and is responsible for the profligacy that accounts for another third being spent as interest?

Why do Pakistanis hold their politicians responsible for the nation’s problems when Pakistan’s budget, its foreign policy, its security policy and its Baluchistan policy are run by the army? Why do Pakistanis like an army whose chiefs arbitrarily grant themselves extensions (since 1947, India has had 26 army chiefs, while Pakistan has had only 14) because they can?

Is the army popular because it is excellent at its function, that of defending Pakistan? But the record there is rather thin. So is it popular because of a threat? Whose aggression is the army defending Pakistan against?

The Pew poll said only 19 percent of Pakistanis thought the enemy was internal, the Pakistani Taliban. India is the enemy according to 57 percent of those polled. The poll found that 74 percent of Pakistanis think India is a serious threat.

What could the nature of the threat from India be? The last war was fought in 1999 and would not have been fought had it not been begun by an unthinking general. Do Pakistanis actually believe Manmohan Singh and Sonia Gandhi represent a military threat? This seems difficult to wrap one’s head around.

Do Pakistanis fear India so much that they have handed over Pakistan to the army? Or do they hate India so much that they want the army to defy it? Only 14 percent of Pakistanis have a positive view of India, which is half from the third that had a positive view in 2006.


The poll said 92 percent of Pakistanis thought their nation was in the wrong direction.

But how could it be otherwise? The army has power but pretends to be subordinate to the PPP. The PPP pretends to be in charge, but actually has no real control over the budget, no say in foreign policy, no freedom to trade with India, no power to improve relations with America. When the PPP tries to assert its democratically given right, it is accused of treason by the army, the judiciary and most of the media. Pakistan has lost its finest diplomat in the process.

The last time a majority of Pakistanis felt their country was headed in the right direction was under General Pervez Musharraf in 2005.

The fault does not lie with the stars, and it does not lie with the army which is only doing what is asked of it by its citizenry. The fault that Pakistan is a nation ruled by its army is that of Pakistanis.

The army’s real power comes from not its guns, but its popularity. Next week we shall look at an unexplored explanation for this.


Why Pakistan’s army is more popular than its politicians | Firstpost
 
Its Stockholm syndrome at a national level. Pakistani public knows that the army can take control anytime they want, so they keep putting army on the pedestal so that when the next coup happens, it doesnt feel bad..
 
pakistani politicians diappoints the public to such a level that coup is welcomed, army only interferes when a disaatrous situtation has prevail and it has no choice bhut to interfer.
anyone who knows our history will know that bhutto was not popular in 77 and his and political movement costed 4000 lifes, the current era of corruption nad deaths in karachi has also broked all records.
no wounder during political era the growth has always been zero while in militery backed democracy it has been near 10.
in nayway pakistani people havnt allowed the militery to rule, they only welcome them to reform the system, thats why all of them were forced to leave very soon.
 
The PA unfortunately has spun a web of paranoia around the Pakistanis that India is a mortal threat, so that it continues to remain in 'power'. And that's the truth! :hitwall:

india maintains an offensive force not far from our borders, has been/still is engaged in anti-Pakistan activity in the region --the degree/extent being debatable, not to mention the fact that while indians claim to be victim of terrorism by Pakistan -- it is already confirmed that india used terrorism as a policy against Pakistan in the past


the nation stands by the Army because the Army is efficient, it's a professional organization and is extremely disciplined. Many look up to the Army as role model institution --one that has brought much pride to the country, despite whatever setbacks it (the nation as a whole) faced.



the mass medias of our enemies and ill-wishers have often tried to create a gap between Pakistani society and the Armed Forces.....having served and living as a civilian for the past 5+ years, I can assure you that it will be a miserably failed strategy.



the Army is a representation -- a product of the society of the country. Whereas in the past, mothers used to try to get their daughters to marry khakis simply because khakis were (formerly) only from bourgeois and prestigious families --- today the Army largely represents the middle class of Pakistan......it's a product of the people and the society -- in all provinces, all religious beliefs and convictions.


the people look up to the Army because they are the defenders of Pakistan --- their r'aison detre is defence of the Islamic Republic. Something that should be seen as a noble and enviable role.


people would look beyond the Army if they had more heros. It's unfortunate that the bloody civilian politicians have made a mess out of the country at times -- they've failed to be visionary role models for the future generations.
 
Pakistan Army is popular for many reasons first for its attachment to Islam secondly weather we like it or not most prosperity took place in time of Army rules thirdly Indian factor and also the Kashmir issue and finally this institution has most merit in it
 
The PA unfortunately has spun a web of paranoia around the Pakistanis that India is a mortal threat, so that it continues to remain in 'power'. And that's the truth! :hitwall:

Its more then the PA propoganda............Its bitter reality......they have to active all time due to Indian Army and RAW's bad & Dirty moves which specialy in Pakistan and in Asia they are playing.
 
Army has ruled Pakistan for 35 years.In democracy times,the politicians have so many issues between themselves and few of them called Army for the help.

Corrupt Politicians can never control powerful Army.
 
sour grapes i guess..

the civilian government never lasts long and people have no other choice anyways.
 
Again i have to remind our Indian friends that we (people of Pakistan) are watching our organizations and politicians closer than you are.But considering that our neighbor has taken the burden to touch this topic then here is my two cents.

1)People of Pakistan like the PA because it is the best working example out of all our government organizations.
2)Pakistan has a history of better economic and internal situation during military dictatorship.Our politicians have always created a crisis or situation to for the army to step in.Army never stepped in out of nowhere.Do some homeworkhttp://http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martial_Law#Pakistan
According to The News:
Poverty figures are not being calculated by the present regime amid fear that it has grown to alarming levels under Gilani’s regime. According to Dr Shahid Siddiqi, who is a reputed financial expert, the number of people living below extreme poverty line has touched the figure of 75 million whereas almost 110 million, out of total 180 million population, are faced with the situation of food insecurity.

Siddiqi said that because of the record rise in poverty in the country, the government is not issuing poverty figures for the last four years. Quoting official figures, Siddiqi said that the average GDP growth rate during the last three years of Musharraf’s tenure was 5.3 percent, which has gone down to all time low 2.6 percent during the first three years of the present regime.

Average inflation figure of the last three years of Musharraf’s regime was 9.1 percent, which has touched the figure of 15.3 percent during the first three years of Gilani government, which had promised bread, cloth and shelter to the people of Pakistan.

Referring to the budgetary deficit figure, he said that during the last three years of the dictator’s rule it was Rs1507 billion earlier, but it reached Rs2954 billion in first three years of the present regime.

Foreign direct investment was $14.07 billion during Musharraf’s last three years, but it has been reduced to $7.49 billion during the first three years of the Gilani regime. The public debt during the last three years of Musharraf rose by Rs2,400 billion, but it increased by Rs5,500 billion during the same period of the present regime.

About the losses that the country had incurred on account of the US-led so-called war on terror, he said that the Pakistan’s economy lost $15 billion during the last three years of the previous regime, but during the first three years of the present rulers, his loss to economy was $40 billion.
Economy under PPP democracy a continuing disaster Perspective
3)PA consumes a lot of budget as you say but its also does the job that other organizations should be doing.In a call of earthquake or flood,which hits our country frequently ,PA is the leading rescue force because our crisis management cell is good for nothing money eating bastards.It is also utilized for internal security,which happens to be the police's job,no but we see army deployed during Muharram to counter any unforeseen event.
4)PA Generals don't make airlines that too 80 aircraft strong during their rule.
5)I think we all know who gave us the industrialization of the country.
6)Army Chiefs are M.sc in strategic warfare and have been studying geopolitics there whole careers.They also have degrees from the National Defence University.Our politicians can't even prove their graduation degrees.I know that there are politicians which have respectable degrees but those politicians are underrated by our power hungry politicians who came into power by cashing the death of their wives.
 
@ Abu Zulfikar - good analysis.

Pakistan like India got freedom form colonial rule barely 7 decades ago. Both the nations are constituted as parliamentary democracies at birth. Democracy in India is riddled with flaws and has a very long way to go before it really meets the aspirations of all sections of the Indian society. However, here I shall give my views on the relevant topic which is Pakistani democracy.

Unlike India, Pakistan was unfortunate enough to have a string of wholly incompetent, greedy and selfish leaders who siphoned off the country's wealth and indulged in large scale nepotism while not doing anything constructive for the country. Now the PA's record in the field of corruption and nepotism is not much better either, but the Pakistan Army was successfully able to project it self as the protector and saviour of the people of Pakistan. That was a huge positive that the political class could not replicate. This impression, that when the chips are down, the Army is there for the country to fall back on. The image of India with its massive war machine right next door has been carefully cultivated by the PA as the eternal existential enemy which is forever waiting to pounce and decimate Pakistan. This has helped in a far greater allocation of national resources than justifiable and also enhanced the stature of the PA. Idiotic and hyper nationalistic politicians in India shooting off their mouth and issuing threats to Pakistan has only helped the cause of the PA by driving the population deeper into its arms while further degrading the status of the civilian rulers.

We are seeing a typically symbiotic relation between the PA and the Pakistani population. The average Pakistani needs the PA to feel good by feeling secure and safe and the PA needs the continued support and loyalty of the population to maintain its preeminent position in the society. The only causality in this equation is the Pakistani democracy.

Democracy in Pakistan has been further eroded by some generals who were more interested in accretion of personal power and wealth, they were egged on by willy politicians who had their own political axe to grind. The large scale adulation of the population somehow convinced these generals that they could administer the country better than the civilians whom everyone hated anyway. History of course shows us that these generals were no better or worse than the guys they pushed out. But this did not stop them from trying again and again. Every time this happened, the democratic clock was stopped and reset at an earlier date.

Rising Islamisation of the Pakistani society also has something to do with this phenomenon. How far are core Islamic values consistent with western style democracy which are what Indian and Pakistani democracy are all about? The jury is still out on that one. That is all I will say in this regard.

China is, I believe, another factor here which is growing in importance. China is an immensely successful model for nation building. In fact, China is likely to become, in the next few decades or the next 50 years, the most powerful nation on Earth, economically and militarily. China is a close friend of Pakistan and exercises enormous influence over almost all aspects of the Pakistani life. And China is not a democracy. To the average Pakistani who sees democracy failing repeatedly to deliver, the Chinese model must be an irresistible. That does not mean that Pakistanis are fond of communism. But the conflicting values of conservative Islam, the weakness of the democratic values and institutions coupled with the amazingly successful Chinese non democratic model, does give food for thought, This is my belief.
 
The PA unfortunately has spun a web of paranoia around the Pakistanis that India is a mortal threat, so that it continues to remain in 'power'. And that's the truth! :hitwall:

:hitwall::hitwall::hitwall: Indian truth by the way, not from Pakistani perspective.

Army is popular, becoz during their time period lot of economic development happened. People got jobs, in times of disaster, the same army delivers when the civilian setup fails, be it the earthquake of 2005 or the recent floods or floods in the past, the armed forces as a combined forces came together and helped the people, while the civilian setup was busy in other things.

These are the biggest reasons the people of Pakistan like their army, yeah they have made blunders too, but delivered also when required.

As for politicians & civilian set up, they failed whenever they got a chance or were nowhere to be seen when required.

As for your comments, feel sorry for you guys that you still think that way, Pakistan is now different, we have a free media, we have access to internet and we can very well see for ourselves who is our enemy and who is not. We are not North Korea where same propaganda is installed in the minds of its people. I have seen Indians on this forum, i have seen Indian mentality at international forums meaning your politicians and their mindset about Pakistan, i know how much Army,Navy & Air Force India has pointed at Pakistan, which are very clear to me in telling that India is my enemy or a friend. Our army doesn't needs to tell us that nowadays, it was the thing of past, not present.
 
sour grapes i guess..

the civilian government never lasts long and people have no other choice anyways.

Now then Gautam im back to see your weak pointless trolling post....again.
Why the hell would we have sour grapes? What do you have in you politicians or in fact army that we cry sour grapes/ Do you live in an oblivious bubble? Take a look at the corruption in your politicians and tell me whaich part of your political nouse we are sour graping over. We have poor civilian leaders so far in our nation - we hope to improve and hope IK turns the ship around.
 
Simply because these COLOURS don't run. !!

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