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On the 132nd birth anniversary of the great South Asian leader BR Ambedkar

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South Asia is the most intellectually deprived region on Earth and the most unjust and most oppressive. Seems there is something in the air and waters of South Asia that renders many people cruel, apathetic, competitive and dog-like. They use every possible means to inflict cruelty on each other. 132 years ago in what is now India there was born a man who was a thinking man, a revolutionary who uplifted a large community of Indians who had been genetically oppressed for 3000 years by Brahmanvaadi thought. Brahmans are the priest-leaders in Hinduism who 3000 years ago came to India from Iran and instituted the most oppressive Apartheid system called Caste System where they made themselves the top cream and a few others as the two lower "upper" creams and the rest of Indians as "dirty" Shudras and the untouchable Dalits who were relegated to cleaning the gutters, sweeping the roads and being servants of the upper castes.

Ambedkar rebelled against this system as he himself being an "untouchable" experienced such things in his young age as his "upper caste" teacher not handing him the glass of water but pushing it with a pen so that he, the upper caste teacher, not be "defiled" by the "dirty" touch of the untouchable boy Bhimrao Ambedkar. One may ask, how does the touch of a person be dirty and what would have been the feeling of a thirsty person who was considered so "impure" that a pen was used to push the water glass to him instead of a hand as would be normal. Yes, in modern India there are burqa-wearing women like Muskan bibi who voluntarily feel defiled if a man were to catch glimpse of their face but these women are insane and go against Nature. Ambedkar wasn't insane, he was a questioner, a rebel.

In time Ambedkar became a leader of the Dalits and the Shudras and gave them the slogan "Educate, Agitate, Organize". In 1927 he led the lower castes to the lake in Mahad town and drank from it. His followers drank from it. This was to signify breaking of the casteist tradition where the lower castes were forbidden to use water from this lake. Imagine, the water in this lake was created by Nature and Nature doesn't discriminate between humans. Water doesn't become poison if a person is money-poor or is 10th class fail like me or was born in a lower caste or is politically oppressed or is of female gender or doesn't obey his fool parents. Water remains same because water is from Nature. It is humans who have created walls. Ambedkar and his followers drank this lake and declared their equality in humankind. At the lake Ambedkar said :
“It is not simply for drinking water; drinking the water will not give us very much. It is not even a matter of only of our human rights, though we fight to establish the right to drink water. But our goal is no less than that of the French Revolution. This was fought for the reconstruction of society, for the eradication of the old society based on feudal inequality and the establishment of a new society based on liberty, equality, and fraternity.” He goes on to express the goal of this Satyagraha “Similarly, we want to end the old inhuman caste society based on inequality and reconstruct the world, reconstruct society on the basis of liberty, equality, and fraternity. This is our goal!”

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Look at the above painting. The dog could drink from this lake and the Brahmans had no objection but should a lower caste human drink from it the Brahmans would rise up in anger and would "purify it" with cow dung and cow urine. Strange are the ways of India :
A riot broke out following a rumour that Ambedkar and his followers were planning to enter a Hindu temple in the town. And the caste Hindu argued that untouchables polluted the tank by taking water from it. To purify the tank cow-urine and cow-dung were used. 108 pots containing a mixture of these products were emptied into the tank while Brahmins recited mantras. The tank was then declared fit for upper caste hindu consumption.

Baba Ambedkar gave years to the Hindu upper caste casteist practitioners to discard their anti-human thinking but they didn't so in 1956 he stood among hundreds of thousands of his lower caste followers and all converted to Buddhism in that ceremony.

But before 1956 he had been given the responsibility of drafting the constitution of independent India. Ambedkar wrote a generally progressive constitution where the citizens of India were exhorted to be of Humanist thought and of Scientific Temper. Indians were given the right to life and liberty and the right to freedom of speech. Indian workers were given the right to establish or join workers unions. Women were given rights. Many such things. However in 2023 i.e. now, none of these wonderful thoughts are in practice. India has become a den of honor killing, urban feudalism ( the "corporates" ), irrationalism, utter misogyny, casteism, mindless religious violence, State oppression, oppression within family, utter Capitalism even within family, etc. India continues to remain true to Baba Ambedkar's saying "Democracy in India is only a top-dressing on an Indian soil, which is essentially undemocratic."

However, hope remains. India and the world will walk over these difficult times and become evolved.

Jai Bheem, Jai Insaaniyat, Laal Salaam, Zan Zindagi Aazaadi.

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Only a region like Maharashtra can produce men like Ambedkar, Shivaji, Jyotiba Phule and Shahu Maharaj.

Jai Maharashtra
 
Only a region like Maharashtra can produce men like Ambedkar, Shivaji, Jyotiba Phule and Shahu Maharaj.

Jai Maharashtra

Such a narrow, regionalist statement would go against Ambedkar's thought, yes ? Where did Kabir come from ? Nanak ? Bulleh Shah ? Lalon Fakir ? Che Guevara ? Muammar Gaddafi ? :)
 
Such a narrow, regionalist statement would go against Ambedkar's thought, yes ? Where did Kabir come from ? Nanak ? Bulleh Shah ? Lalon Fakir ? Che Guevara ? Muammar Gaddafi ? :)
Are you seriously trying to compare Kabir, Nanak, Bulleh Shah with Ambedkar & Shivaji? Maharashtra has produced far greater saints Sant Tukaram and Sant Eknath.

Without the likes of Ambedkar & Shivaji there would be no United India.

And Gaddafi was from Mars. He was no earthling.
 
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In all srsness but, yeah.. plenty of societal ills here, as there are around the world, including in the most powerful and rich of them all, the mighty USA.

Only qualified to talk about my subjective experience, and I've never so much as been mean to, much less discriminated against anyone based on their gender, caste, creed, economic status, faith, or race. They're all equal in my eyes.

Haan, woh alag baat hai ki you're my bunny, my football.. who I sometimes have a go at, but always in response to something completely retarded and unthinking that YOU said on here. I can't stand people like Drizzt for example, who's only game here is demonizing and talking low about a certain people.. or anyone else who'd act that way and constantly spew hatred at X,Y or Z denomination of people. I don't like that hussain 2061 whatever guy for the same reason... "Hindus bad"

I also don't suffer from delusions of grandiosity to the point where I'm out to fix the problems of the world because I have all the answers.

The world is what it is, apna dekho, "be the change etc..."

Your problem is that you're a hive mind collectivist, I'm more aligned with people who are individualists. There's of plenty of other stuff in life that I prioritize over fixing the whole god damn world.. those would be my niji mamlas.. friends, family, work, business etc, which can and do get very stressing at times too.

Ya to m koi bhot badi shaksiat hota, some big powerful rich and famous guy with the resources to actually do something that sticks and works, and can effectively effect change.. but I know my limits, just a random.
 
There's of plenty of other stuff in life that I prioritize over fixing the whole god damn world.. those would be my niji mamlas.. friends, family, work, business etc, which can and do get very stressing at times too.

But we live in society and the society should be harmonious for us to live comfortably and attain our interests and our contributions to society. If we cut away from societal problems then things will become as dire as we getting stabbed just outside our gate or some dog having a go at our throat two streets from our house. We must desire utopia and not dystopia.

Ya to m koi bhot badi shaksiat hota, some big powerful rich and famous guy with the resources to actually do something that sticks and works, and can effectively effect change.. but I know my limits, just a random.

The intent should not be to become "Bohot badi shaksiat" ( "a great person" ) but someone who actively participates in making society and humanity harmonious. This is part of the Indian constitution.
 
The intent should not be to become "Bohot badi shaksiat" ( "a great person" ) but someone who actively participates in making society and humanity harmonious. This is part of the Indian constitution.

Good point. I agree we all must play whatever little part we can in making things better. Small things add up. But you need to remember that this is an anonymous internet forum and you shouldn't be portraying people as indifferent or bhakts or capitalist or any other thing. You don't know anything about the person apart from what they have chosen to share, and for all you know, it may be all bullshit.

I personally contribute to various NGOs, especially those involved in children's education because I feel the real lack of privilege starts there. If the poor have access to good quality education, they can erase the generational gaps without much government support. My point about people playing their role is at odds with your stand on government doing everything. But then in this particular post of yours I find you arguing for individual intervention. So are you ok with both? Very good then. I am on the same page as you.
 

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