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Electricity should be sold at a different prices in Lahore and Peshawar: Taimur Khan Jhagra
The caretaker federal government has decided to end the existing system for sales and distribution of electricity and Caretaker Prime Minister Anwaarul Haq Kakar has approved sending a summary to the federal cabinet to hand over power distribution companies (DISCOs) to the provinces.

In response PTI's greatest brain Ex-provincial finance minister Taimur Khan Jhagra made following demands and suggestions:

- Theft in Peshawar Division should not charged to Peshawar Division only, but should be paid by whole of Pakistan.
- Though the federal government built the dams in KP but other than royalty we should also given the profit.
- To ensure fairness and quality service, addressing insufficient transmission capacity and investment disparities in KP and PESCO is essential when decoupling pricing.
- Theft in Peshawer Devision is justified because KP is currently providing hundreds of megawatts of free electricity to the national grid from provincial dams due to the federal government's delay in finalizing tariffs, PTI was in power for four years.
- Until you don't increase transmission capacity of PESCO as compared to Punjab, we would continue using the stolen electricity.
- If you us to pay for the price of electricity we use, give us full rights over gas we produce.
- We will not catch electricity thieves, because federal government has not caught FATA electricity thieves in the past.
- Capacity payments should only be paid by Punjab, it is not the problem of KP.
- Moral: Make free & fair election, we will decide after that if we would continue or stop teft of electricity.


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Here are my assertions:

- Tarbela, Ghazi Brotha, and all the newly constructed dams are in the Hazara Division. There is no electricity theft there. You will never hear of Hazara Division's politicians resorting to such silly argument because theft, robbery, and any illegal activities are carried out with Afghan pride in Afghan and their dissidents' dominated areas.

- Ayub Khan Pathan sold Punjab's three rivers to India and built Tarbela and Mangla dams. In return, what did Punjab receive? Tarbela and others were constructed with federal funds. In ten years, you also could have built dams with KPK's funds and provided free electricity. The Constitution permits it. Your failure is your own. Now you have come up with the Pashtun card??

- Under the constitution, Khyber Pakhtunkhwa (KP) receives royalty from WAPDA at a rate of Rs 1.1 per unit as a water usage charge, which does not exceed 30 billion annually. Why allow people from other regions engage in additional electricity theft by investing new funds to improve the T&D (Transmission and Distribution) system in KP, when more electricity for thieves means more theft and more losses?

- People in Azad Kashmir are provided electricity at a rate of Rs 2.59 per unit by the National Grid, while the local government sells it at a higher rate. If Azad Kashmir generates electricity under the IPP (Independent Power Producer) mode, they could receive electricity for at least 10 cents per unit, which translates to 35 to 40 rupees. This is similar to the situation with the electricity thieves in KP. They can generate electricity and put it to use.

- If Punjab generates electricity from RLNG and nuclear, coal, it can provide electricity at half the price of Rs 70 per unit due to today's theft. You were in government in KP for 10 years, you would have made electricity in Pashtun areas. The constitution allows.

- Afghans made their livelihood by robbery and theft for centuries. The modern state system do not allow with that. If you were not a part of Pakistan today, you would be of Afghanistan. The situation of Afghanistan is in front of everyone. Learn to live with civility and behave like civilized people. Fulfill your responsibility. Do not steal.

- Punjab government should make efforts to open trade in electricity and other goods with India. If trade can be done from Afghanistan, why can't cheap vehicles, commodities and electricity be taken from India? Terminate the visa for Nankana Sahib. Punjabi cement is in great demand in Indian Punjab.

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Fact: PESCO provided with more funds per consumer than the DISCOs in Punjab & Sindh.
 
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Caretaker govt should focus on ensuring free and fair elections, and leave policy decisions to those with a mandate from the people as they have the only right to decide what's good for the people and the nation.
 
electricity is as important as food and water

elites should subsidize it for everyone else or theyll have to worry about sri lanka situation eventually
 
Electricity should be sold at a different prices in Lahore and Peshawar: Taimur Khan Jhagra
The caretaker federal government has decided to end the existing system for sales and distribution of electricity and Caretaker Prime Minister Anwaarul Haq Kakar has approved sending a summary to the federal cabinet to hand over power distribution companies (DISCOs) to the provinces.

In response PTI's greatest brain Ex-provincial finance minister Taimur Khan Jhagra made following demands and suggestions:

- Theft in Peshawar Division should not charged to Peshawar Division only, but should be paid by whole of Pakistan.
- Though the federal government built the dams in KP but other than royalty we should also given the profit.
- To ensure fairness and quality service, addressing insufficient transmission capacity and investment disparities in KP and PESCO is essential when decoupling pricing.
- Theft in Peshawer Devision is justified because KP is currently providing hundreds of megawatts of free electricity to the national grid from provincial dams due to the federal government's delay in finalizing tariffs, PTI was in power for four years.
- Until you don't increase transmission capacity of PESCO as compared to Punjab, we would continue using the stolen electricity.
- If you us to pay for the price of electricity we use, give us full rights over gas we produce.
- We will not catch electricity thieves, because federal government has not caught FATA electricity thieves in the past.
- Capacity payments should only be paid by Punjab, it is not the problem of KP.
- Moral: Make free & fair election, we will decide after that if we would continue or stop teft of electricity.


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Here are my assertions:

- Tarbela, Ghazi Brotha, and all the newly constructed dams are in the Hazara Division. There is no electricity theft there. You will never hear of Hazara Division's politicians resorting to such silly argument because theft, robbery, and any illegal activities are carried out with Afghan pride in Afghan and their dissidents' dominated areas.

- Ayub Khan Pathan sold Punjab's three rivers to India and built Tarbela and Mangla dams. In return, what did Punjab receive? Tarbela and others were constructed with federal funds. In ten years, you also could have built dams with KPK's funds and provided free electricity. The Constitution permits it. Your failure is your own. Now you have come up with the Pashtun card??

- Under the constitution, Khyber Pakhtunkhwa (KP) receives royalty from WAPDA at a rate of Rs 1.1 per unit as a water usage charge, which does not exceed 30 billion annually. Why allow people from other regions engage in additional electricity theft by investing new funds to improve the T&D (Transmission and Distribution) system in KP, when more electricity for thieves means more theft and more losses?

- People in Azad Kashmir are provided electricity at a rate of Rs 2.59 per unit by the National Grid, while the local government sells it at a higher rate. If Azad Kashmir generates electricity under the IPP (Independent Power Producer) mode, they could receive electricity for at least 10 cents per unit, which translates to 35 to 40 rupees. This is similar to the situation with the electricity thieves in KP. They can generate electricity and put it to use.

- If Punjab generates electricity from RLNG and nuclear, coal, it can provide electricity at half the price of Rs 70 per unit due to today's theft. You were in government in KP for 10 years, you would have made electricity in Pashtun areas. The constitution allows.

- Afghans made their livelihood by robbery and theft for centuries. The modern state system do not allow with that. If you were not a part of Pakistan today, you would be of Afghanistan. The situation of Afghanistan is in front of everyone. Learn to live with civility and behave like civilized people. Fulfill your responsibility. Do not steal.

- Punjab government should make efforts to open trade in electricity and other goods with India. If trade can be done from Afghanistan, why can't cheap vehicles, commodities and electricity be taken from India? Terminate the visa for Nankana Sahib. Punjabi cement is in great demand in Indian Punjab.

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Fact: PESCO provided with more funds per consumer than the DISCOs in Punjab & Sindh.
Ghazi brotha system creates alone 8000mw
KP requirements aren't even 2000 mw

Most of electricity is stolen by industries under the umbrella technical losses

Those are in punjab

And sindh

Federation needs to be defined

We are federation yet no laws of federation applies here!

Punjab does block food now and then and doesn't allow for KP to import its own food yet it has no power on water and electricity

The 1973 consitution is something everyone agrees upon but it's not followed in its unadulterated form
 
Electricity should be sold at a different prices in Lahore and Peshawar: Taimur Khan Jhagra
The caretaker federal government has decided to end the existing system for sales and distribution of electricity and Caretaker Prime Minister Anwaarul Haq Kakar has approved sending a summary to the federal cabinet to hand over power distribution companies (DISCOs) to the provinces.

In response PTI's greatest brain Ex-provincial finance minister Taimur Khan Jhagra made following demands and suggestions:

- Theft in Peshawar Division should not charged to Peshawar Division only, but should be paid by whole of Pakistan.
- Though the federal government built the dams in KP but other than royalty we should also given the profit.
- To ensure fairness and quality service, addressing insufficient transmission capacity and investment disparities in KP and PESCO is essential when decoupling pricing.
- Theft in Peshawer Devision is justified because KP is currently providing hundreds of megawatts of free electricity to the national grid from provincial dams due to the federal government's delay in finalizing tariffs, PTI was in power for four years.
- Until you don't increase transmission capacity of PESCO as compared to Punjab, we would continue using the stolen electricity.
- If you us to pay for the price of electricity we use, give us full rights over gas we produce.
- We will not catch electricity thieves, because federal government has not caught FATA electricity thieves in the past.
- Capacity payments should only be paid by Punjab, it is not the problem of KP.
- Moral: Make free & fair election, we will decide after that if we would continue or stop teft of electricity.


View attachment 950256

Here are my assertions:

- Tarbela, Ghazi Brotha, and all the newly constructed dams are in the Hazara Division. There is no electricity theft there. You will never hear of Hazara Division's politicians resorting to such silly argument because theft, robbery, and any illegal activities are carried out with Afghan pride in Afghan and their dissidents' dominated areas.

- Ayub Khan Pathan sold Punjab's three rivers to India and built Tarbela and Mangla dams. In return, what did Punjab receive? Tarbela and others were constructed with federal funds. In ten years, you also could have built dams with KPK's funds and provided free electricity. The Constitution permits it. Your failure is your own. Now you have come up with the Pashtun card??

- Under the constitution, Khyber Pakhtunkhwa (KP) receives royalty from WAPDA at a rate of Rs 1.1 per unit as a water usage charge, which does not exceed 30 billion annually. Why allow people from other regions engage in additional electricity theft by investing new funds to improve the T&D (Transmission and Distribution) system in KP, when more electricity for thieves means more theft and more losses?

- People in Azad Kashmir are provided electricity at a rate of Rs 2.59 per unit by the National Grid, while the local government sells it at a higher rate. If Azad Kashmir generates electricity under the IPP (Independent Power Producer) mode, they could receive electricity for at least 10 cents per unit, which translates to 35 to 40 rupees. This is similar to the situation with the electricity thieves in KP. They can generate electricity and put it to use.

- If Punjab generates electricity from RLNG and nuclear, coal, it can provide electricity at half the price of Rs 70 per unit due to today's theft. You were in government in KP for 10 years, you would have made electricity in Pashtun areas. The constitution allows.

- Afghans made their livelihood by robbery and theft for centuries. The modern state system do not allow with that. If you were not a part of Pakistan today, you would be of Afghanistan. The situation of Afghanistan is in front of everyone. Learn to live with civility and behave like civilized people. Fulfill your responsibility. Do not steal.

- Punjab government should make efforts to open trade in electricity and other goods with India. If trade can be done from Afghanistan, why can't cheap vehicles, commodities and electricity be taken from India? Terminate the visa for Nankana Sahib. Punjabi cement is in great demand in Indian Punjab.

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Fact: PESCO provided with more funds per consumer than the DISCOs in Punjab & Sindh.
First take steps to stop power theft , and free power to elite officials. Every kilowatt should bring revenue .
 
Why shouldn't Parhans have first right on electricity produced in their area ? Doesn’t Punjab restrict supply of wheat produced in Punjab to other states ?
Wheat is pretty cheap global

Pakistani wheat is actually more expensive (albeit higher quality) then globally

First take steps to stop power theft , and free power to elite officials. Every kilowatt should bring revenue .
Problem of Pakistan

1- lack of taxation the elite isn't taxed
2- stealing by elites

Everyone is worried about domestic users while the majority losses are happening in industries

Govt has data of all elites who pay zero tax and enjoy vacations in Dubai and Europe yet would do nothing why?

Because most of these elites control the politicians judiciary and army
 
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electricity is as important as food and water

elites should subsidize it for everyone else or theyll have to worry about sri lanka situation eventually

Free bees are starting point for disaster , India is running very fast on free bee track , i think it is going to have very bad impact on economy .
 
Ghazi brotha system creates alone 8000mw
KP requirements aren't even 2000 mw

Most of electricity is stolen by industries under the umbrella technical losses

Those are in punjab

And sindh

Federation needs to be defined

We are federation yet no laws of federation applies here!

Punjab does block food now and then and doesn't allow for KP to import its own food yet it has no power on water and electricity

The 1973 consitution is something everyone agrees upon but it's not followed in its unadulterated form

Ghazi Barotha is in Punjab, secondly it does not produce 8000MW throughout the year, in 04 months of winters it reduces the production as low as 500MW.

In Punjab & Sindh most of the big industries have their own power-plants, they don't rely on WAPDA.

Punjab provides adequate food for KP people, but KP smuggles that food to Afghanistan.

Federal government wants to handover PESCO to KP, but KP is reluctant to take it.
 
Punjab does block food now and then and doesn't allow for KP to import its own food yet it has no power on water and electricity
Jhagra sahab is partly right. the solution lies somewhere in between.

KP should have power over water, but electricity from federal funded schemes are not KPK's to begin with. as even the land for power plant is bought at market rate. it belongs to the federal govt or whoever the investor is now. same goes for gas. this BS about profit payments needs to end, as they already receive royalty for practically doing nothing. the provincial govt can use its funds to buy a stake into the plant. and then it can claim profit payments. same goes for all provinces.

as for provincially funded schemes, then yes, they should receive it first. once their need is satisfied only then should it be transferred to national grid.

Finally, DISCOs must be privatized.
 
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Where?



Don't you see the huge problem in this whole scheme?

Thora to damagh ko hath mar yar.

Dear sir, have you noticed one thing? Humaray @Meengla sahib ghayab huyay hain, the last time he kindly disappeared was after his favourite NCM vote and he magically reappeared when IK was in trouble lol. (This is my personal opinion, I could be wrong but I don’t think I am)
 

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