A New Gulag in China

[Cybernetics]

So your recommendation is a benign(?) occupation followed by forced birth control of the natives and colonization to tip the population balance.

I thought Ashkenazis were intelligent, you are only hurting your Zionist cause here with your blind zeal causing you to act like a bull in a China shop. IIRC you are an elder, possibly set on your ways and not with the times. Maybe you thought this could help justify your narratives. Looks like you have the ability to turn outsiders who were pro-Zionists or agnostic into hardcore anti-Zionists. You are playing into some people's agenda. Forced birth control? Basically only urban Han people were part of the one-child policy.

I am from North East China, the part that is almost entirely blue. I guess my region is being ethnically clensed, along with Beijing, Yangzte River Delta, and Pear River Delta. Look at Xinjiang and region around Kashgar where it has a very high concentration of Uyghurs. Urumqi that has a high concentration of Han (along with Uyghurs) has low fertility like other major cities, it could just be due to lifestyle. Does this look like birth control to you? No, this diagram is not talking about population increase through "colonization", it is local fertility.

Do you not understand how some Chinese people think? In this cycle of Chinese history, territory is a sacred issue (it's always important but sometimes it is a sacred mission), especially with recent experiences (last few hundred years). 明犯强汉者，虽远必诛 which can be interpreted as "damage China's integrity and we will punish/kill/destroy the perpetrator no matter how far". Of course China wants to rise peacefully but dangerous groups that overtly damage China would be eventually dealt with, though China tends to have a high tolerance level. This is not a new piece of text, its been around since the Book of Han (70th scroll) during the Han dynasty, first appearing in 35 BC but compiled into the Book of Han during the Eastern Han dynasty. Keep this up and I'm sure you will eventually invite a group of Chinese wanting to "punish no matter how far". If you keep it up for long enough who knows, there might be a dedicated and organised group emerging. This is not limited to Han, other ethnic groups in China learn ancient texts too, it would be terrible if some fuses this with other ideologies or religions as most Hans are atheist or follow folk religion.

Do you know why some Chinese have issues with Turkey or seemingly dislike it out of nowhere? Ultimately the big issue is not because of religion, ideology, ethnicity or culture. It is geopolitics (maybe Turkey isn't entirely in control of it), as soon as that issue is solved, the perception would change real quick. Many Chinese like vacationing there, I don't see real issues on that level.

Keep this up, increase the intensity, eventually you will find yourself a fan club of people with 犯我中华者，虽远必诛 in mind.

 

[rcrmj]

@Solomon2 : Who killed 50 Palestinians recently? I won't take side between Palestinian and Israel. But please be aware that Israel is not innocent either. You have your own reason, China has their own reason. So don't become a double standard and act like a holy man. Specially when your country relation with China is not that bad.

Just like what An Israeli who live long time ago said "Whoever among you are innocent and without sin can move forward and throw a rock to this woman."

So why you Israeli think China as an enemy, while China was never consider your countrymen as enemy?

their empty minds are easy to be manipulated by mainstream media, who they believe are "neutral" and "factual", and this breads hatred, blind and ignorant hatred to anyone who shares different value and culture to the West

I thought Ashkenazis were intelligent, you are only hurting your Zionist cause here with your blind zeal causing you to act like a bull in a China shop. IIRC you are an elder, possibly set on your ways and not with the times. Maybe you thought this could help justify your narratives. Looks like you have the ability to turn outsiders who were pro-Zionists or agnostic into hardcore anti-Zionists. You are playing into some people's agenda. Forced birth control? Basically only urban Han people were part of the one-child policy.

I am from North East China, the part that is almost entirely blue. Look at Xinjiang and region around Kashgar where it has a very high concentration of Uyghurs. Urumqi that has a high concentration of Han (along with Uyghurs) has low fertility like other major cities, it could just be due to lifestyle. Does this look like birth control to you? No, this diagram is not talking about population increase through "colonization", it is local fertility.
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Do you not understand how some Chinese people think? In this cycle of Chinese history, territory is a sacred issue (it's always important but sometimes it is a sacred mission), especially with recent experiences (last few hundred years). 明犯强汉者，虽远必诛 which can be interpreted as "damage China's integrity and we will punish/kill/destroy the perpetrator no matter how far". Of course China wants to rise peacefully but dangerous groups that overtly damage China would be eventually dealt with, though China tends to have a high tolerance level. This is not a new piece of text, its been around since the Book of Han (70th scroll) during the Han dynasty, first appearing in 35 BC but compiled into the Book of Han during the Eastern Han dynasty. Keep this up and I'm sure you will eventually invite a group of Chinese wanting to "punish no matter how far". If you keep it up for long enough who knows, there might be a dedicated and organised group emerging. This is not limited to Han, other ethnic groups in China learn ancient texts too, it would be terrible if some fuses this with other ideologies or religions as most Hans are atheist or follow folk religion.

Do you know why some Chinese have issues with Turkey or seemingly dislike it out of nowhere? Ultimately the big issue is not because of religion, ideology, ethnicity or culture. It is geopolitics (maybe Turkey isn't entirely in control of it), as soon as that issue is solved, the perception would change real quick. Many Chinese like vacationing there, I don't see real issues on that level.

Keep this up, increase the intensity, eventually you will find yourself a fan club of people with 犯我中华者，虽远必诛 in mind.

you are wasting time on someone who does not or does not want to tolerate differences. They believe their way of life is "divine" and "righteous"```

 

[Trango Towers]

@Solomon2 : Who killed 50 Palestinians recently? I won't take side between Palestinian and Israel. But please be aware that Israel is not innocent either. You have your own reason, China has their own reason. So don't become a double standard and act like a holy man. Specially when your country relation with China is not that bad.

Just like what An Israeli who live long time ago said "Whoever among you are innocent and without sin can move forward and throw a rock to this woman."

So why you Israeli think China as an enemy, while China was never consider your countrymen as enemy?

Because Israel didn't consider anyone as human

 

[beijingwalker]

Do you know why some Chinese have issues with Turkey or seemingly dislike it out of nowhere? Ultimately the big issue is not because of religion, ideology, ethnicity or culture. It is geopolitics (maybe Turkey isn't entirely in control of it), as soon as that issue is solved, the perception would change real quick. Many Chinese like vacationing there, I don't see real issues on that level.

Distrust caused by their Pan-Turkism.

 

[Solomon2]

@Solomon2 : Who killed 50 Palestinians recently?

3,033 Palestinian Arab civilians and over 800 Palestinian Arab fighters have been killed in Syria since its civil war started: link. Hamas itself has killed thousands of Palestinian Arabs to secure its supremacy in Gaza. I have every right to insist upon your ENDORSEMENT of Israel's deeds at the Gaza border in its defense of human lives, both Israeli and Arab.

 

[Tokhme khar]

Iran is working on creating a giant gulag for these Zio's. They'll be all thrown in it. Peace will immediately return on this planet.

 

[ZeEa5KPul]

I have every right to insist upon your ENDORSEMENT of Israel's deeds at the Gaza border in its defense of human lives, both Israeli and Arab.

 

[Solomon2]

Forced birth control? Basically only urban Han people were part of the one-child policy.

I didn't know that. Thank you for the correction.

Do you know why some Chinese have issues with Turkey or seemingly dislike it out of nowhere? Ultimately the big issue is not because of religion, ideology, ethnicity or culture. It is geopolitics (maybe Turkey isn't entirely in control of it), as soon as that issue is solved, the perception would change real quick. Many Chinese like vacationing there, I don't see real issues on that level.

I don't know why you're bringing up Turkey in this discussion. Is it because of an ethnic link with the Uyghurs?

Exactly. The premise of the Oslo Accords, as far as Zionists were concerned, was that the world would see it and international law as binding on both parties. Instead Israel is slandered out of political convenience and much of the world laughs when Zionists protest: the majority-Muslim countries because Oslo is seen as a means to destroy the Jewish State and European countries et al who seek to reestablish scapegoating Jews as a tool of power.

 

[beijingwalker]

I didn't know that. Thank you for the correction.

Of cause you don't, your media only wants you to know what they want you to know, that's why you posted this Gulag garbage.

 

[Brainsucker]

3,033 Palestinian Arab civilians and over 800 Palestinian Arab fighters have been killed in Syria since its civil war started: link. Hamas itself has killed thousands of Palestinian Arabs to secure its supremacy in Gaza. I have every right to insist upon your ENDORSEMENT of Israel's deeds at the Gaza border in its defense of human lives, both Israeli and Arab.

Oh, I get it. So rather than being killed by other people in another war, Palestinian People should be killed by Israel, because it's better that way, as Israel kill in it's defense of human lives, both Israeli and Arab. Well, that's what we call "Human Rights". Israel kills Palestinian People in the name of Human Right. Good! Good!

 

[Tokhme khar]

You will all die in this gulag Iran is creating specially for you.......

I didn't know that. Thank you for the correction.

I don't know why you're bringing up Turkey in this discussion. Is it because of an ethnic link with the Uyghurs?


Exactly. The premise of the Oslo Accords, as far as Zionists were concerned, was that the world would see it and international law as binding on both parties. Instead Israel is slandered out of political convenience and much of the world laughs when Zionists protest: the majority-Muslim countries because Oslo is seen as a means to destroy the Jewish State and European countries et al who seek to reestablish scapegoating Jews as a tool of power.

 

[terranMarine]

Jews will be burning in hell

 

[Tokhme khar]

Iran planted a seed in 1979.......the end of Zionism.......and it has germinated:

http://www.presstv.com/Detail/2018/05/17/562059/Iran-Leader-Israel-Palestine-US

 

[Hu Yao]

3,033 Palestinian Arab civilians and over 800 Palestinian Arab fighters have been killed in Syria since its civil war started: link. Hamas itself has killed thousands of Palestinian Arabs to secure its supremacy in Gaza. I have every right to insist upon your ENDORSEMENT of Israel's deeds at the Gaza border in its defense of human lives, both Israeli and Arab.

Guess what? You made a perfect example about double standard, my killing is justified your killing is not.

And I saw the biggest problem in you. You can only find resonance with criminals, never from normal person. There are more than 11 million Uyghurs in China. Most of them lives a happy life. You just ignored the major group of Uyghurs, and consider those crimals as your best friends. Rebiya Kadeer is an activists, but also a criminal. And if you believe Uyghur Congress, with the same standard Israel should never exists.

When ever I saw those poor propaganda like you did, I felt I never lived in China. Learn to speak a little Chinese and then talk about China. Or you are just performing like a idiot.

 

[beijingwalker]

Guess what? You made a perfect example about double standard, my killing is justified your killing is not.

And I saw the biggest problem in you. You can only find resonance with criminals, never from normal person. There are more than 11 million Uyghurs in China. Most of them lives a happy life. You just ignored the major group of Uyghurs, and consider those crimals as your best friends. Rebiya Kadeer is an activists, but also a criminal. And if you believe Uyghur Congress, with the same standard Israel should never exists.

When ever I saw those poor propaganda like you did, I felt I never lived in China. Learn to speak a little Chinese and then talk about China. Or you are just performing like a idiot.

This video taken from some years back shows how the vast majority of the local Uyghur publc in rural Xinjiang react to those extremely few "freedeom fighters" exalted by the free western media.